Yep it is worthless because no one that posted has given each program a try with all other variables held constant. Thus how would anyone know which yields the most hypertrophic gains. The poll is worthless because it compares statistics that are inherently worthless. The thread itself may not be as long as people provide a little background as to why they use their program and a little stats with training history. It was not a personal attack but you chose to take it that way. In the future please read and understand my posts before you jump to a conclusion out of defensiveness. If everyone on this board would not be as defensive, myself included, we would all get a lot more out of these discussions.