Which Cycle Is Better?

[leanmusclenyc]

Here's the basics: I'm just over 5'6" and weigh 145 lbs. I'd like to gain 30 to 40 lbs over the next year or so. I had planned on starting the following cycle in a few weeks until a friend told me I should consider Jintropin instead.

Anybody have any thoughts about what would be better for me?

Possibility 1:
10 week cycle of Equipoise, Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , Sustanon, and ending with Nolvadex or Clomid to maintain gains.

Week Equipoise Sustanon Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Novladex/Clomid
1 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
2 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
3 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
4 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
5 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
6 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week 25-30 mg/day
7 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week
8 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week
9 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week
10 200-400 mg/week 500 mg/week
11 40 mg/day
12 40 mg/day
13 40 mg/day
14 40 mg/day
15 40 mg/day

OR

Possibility 2: doing a cycle of Jintropin. Maybe adding a steroid like equipoise to it.

 

[fatbg]

age, cycle/training history?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Neither. You need to get bigger first or you'll never gain 30 pounds, with or without all the gear in the world.

More training, more food, BIG BLAST,UNLEASHED, more training more food. Repeat. Ask again in 6 months or so.

 

[halfcenturian]

Too early for gear, my young friend. Please lift natty for the next year or two and pick up 30-40 pounds of muscle by routine hard heavy lifting, as well as, clean diet, ample sleep etc. You have probably heard this before. Please do YOURSELF a favor and wait until you are closer to maxing out natually.
At 145 you are 30 pounds too early IMO.

 

[leanmusclenyc]

Seems I left out some important information... I'm 42. When I started working out 6 years ago I weighed 115 lbs. So I've gained 30 since then. I work out 4 to 5 days a week. As far as eating goes, I eat 4 to 5 meals a day which apparently isn't enough since I've been hovering around 145 lbs. for at least 2 years. Anyway, I thought doing a cycle (in combination with eating right) would get me past my 145 lbs.plateau.

 

[holy ghost]

guys need to stop getting these sample cycles off mesomorph damn so outdated@

 

[fatbg]

I think Nelson is right, but if you decide to run a cycle, simple test 250mg per week for ten weeks should give you a nice boost. However you should get your diet in check to make best gains possible.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Agree with Nelson as well... 30-40 lbs is a huge jump for a 145-lb frame... even if you did gain that much in a year, you'd never *KEEP* it... your body just wouldn't allow it... gain as much of that as possible NATURALLY by EATING, EATING, AND EATING SOME MORE! Then, once you've reached a plateau after that, then consider a cycle. You'd be surprised how much you can grow just by increasing calories.

 

[halfcenturian]

Bro, you do as you please. I'm just giving my opinion. I've seen a lot of smaller guys blow up then lose it all because it's mostly water weight.
Consider this. If you gain 30 pounds in 16 months lifting natty, that will be permenant muscle, provided you do all the right things. 30 pounds can be gained natty, no problem in 12-18 months. You gotta work for it.
If you juice NOW and get to 165, I promise you will lose at least half of it post cycle.
If you are maxed out natually now, then run a 12 week test E/C cycle.

 

[airsmith2k]

Seems I left out some important information... I'm 42. When I started working out 6 years ago I weighed 115 lbs. So I've gained 30 since then. I work out 4 to 5 days a week. As far as eating goes, I eat 4 to 5 meals a day which apparently isn't enough since I've been hovering around 145 lbs. for at least 2 years. Anyway, I thought doing a cycle (in combination with eating right) would get me past my 145 lbs.plateau.

at 42 u should just go on hrt

 

[juicyjjj]

drop the eq it does very little for size.

 

[boyer]

42 been lifting for 6 years. I know some peeps avocate 250 a week, but at 42, I say testosterone cypionate 1-10 500mg a week. Or if you don't mind needles,testosterone propionate 150 mg eod is awesome. - - post cycle therapy clomid 50mg a day four weeks. Eat, sleep and lift your ass off. Simple and effective.

 

[ego boner]

Seems I left out some important information... I'm 42. When I started working out 6 years ago I weighed 115 lbsSo I've gained 30 since then. I work out 4 to 5 days a week. As far as eating goes, I eat 4 to 5 meals a day which apparently isn't enough since I've been hovering around 145 lbs. for at least 2 years. Anyway, I thought doing a cycle (in combination with eating right) would get me past my 145 lbs.plateau.

i call bullshit.. if you weighed 115 then you are an aids patient... start telling the truth in your posts from here on out.. please.. if you dont want BS responses, then dont post BS stats just to try to shortcut.. have more respect for yourself, your body, and other people.

EGO!

 

[boyer]

i call bullshit.. if you weighed 115 then you are an aids patient... start telling the truth in your posts from here on out.. please.. if you dont want BS responses, then dont post BS stats just to try to shortcut.. have more respect for yourself, your body, and other people.

EGO!

Well in that case he came to the right site.^^^

 

[ego boner]

Well in that case he came to the right site.^^^

dont share needles

 

[Trendsetter21]

dont share needles

I actually work with a guy thats 5'6 36 and 112lbs, no joke, it does happen. If your 42 I would see a hormone therapist, and look to get on an Hrt program with HGH and Test, I've already been to one but I'm only 27 so I have to wait 2 more years (birthday coming soon), they won't prescribe to anyone under 30 at the place I checked out. Not a big deal for me though but it can be pricey. 48 week Test and HGH is like $10,000 But for me there's no price on feeling good, so when the time comes I'm doing it!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Well in that case he came to the right site.^^^

I've noted this snotty tone in several of your posts. Dude, if you don't like it here, just leave. No need to be a little prick.

 

[holy ghost]

Get Em !

 

[ego boner]

I actually work with a guy thats 5'6 36 and 112lbs, no joke, it does happen. If your 42 I would see a hormone therapist, and look to get on an Hrt program with human growth hormone - somatropin - and Test, I've already been to one but I'm only 27 so I have to wait 2 more years (birthday coming soon), they won't prescribe to anyone under 30 at the place I checked out. Not a big deal for me though but it can be pricey. 48 week Test and HGH is like $10,000 But for me there's no price on feeling good, so when the time comes I'm doing it!

thats like tom cruises size ... i dont know anyone that little-- i guess we are bigger in texas

EGO!

 

[holy ghost]

ever run into any of those minutemen dudes ??

 

[boyer]

I've noted this snotty tone in several of your posts. Dude, if you don't like it here, just leave. No need to be a little prick.

Way to jump the gun. I was simply comparing ego boner's post to one of the banners. If you had a problem with other posts I made, you should have addressed it in that particular thread.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Way to jump the gun. I was simply comparing ego boner's post to one of the banners. If you had a problem with other posts I made, you should have addressed it in that particular thread.

Don't be coy bro. You're calling the site bullshit and on another thread you said PP supps were worthless with no defense or explanation to what you were saying whatsoever -- just accusations and insults. Stop.

 

[ego boner]

ever run into any of those minutemen dudes ??

a minute what?? is that minute like 60 secs or mInUte like small? i gotta stop smokin so much weed.. im confused. sure helps the appetite though

 

[halfcenturian]

You busted Skull Head. Ya'll try to play nice now

 

[LB55]

what the hell is a minuteman dont feel bad ego boner im totally lost two im guessing by the context it is some one thats small and strong as hell prob midget and im too lazy to go google it so im waitin on holy ghost to tell us

 

[advanced-stealth]

Good info

Neither. You need to get bigger first or you'll never gain 30 pounds, with or without all the gear in the world.

More training, more food, BIG BLAST,UNLEASHED, more training more food. Repeat. Ask again in 6 months or so.

 

[eddymerckx]

for a first cycle just run test and at your weight not 500/wk

also if you want to run eq do so for more than 10 weeks

 

[LB55]

i wanna know what a minuteman is?????????

 

[eddymerckx]

i wanna know what a minuteman is?????????

the really white guys, with lots of time on their hands, that run around the boarder w/walkie talkies and bazookas looking for people less white than themselves to kill---errrrr i mean report to the boarder patrol

 

[LB55]

LOL DUMBASS thats funny