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What's wrong with Diet Coke?

Anthrax said:
With that reasoning I guess that the single smell of some hot chocoalte and pecans cookies getting out of the oven would make you fat ;)

LOL smarty pants.....

No it has more to do with the brain recognizing sweetness on the tongue thus signaling the body to get ready for the influx of carbs.....when that doesn't happen, the body continues to "crave" carbs till it gets said carbs
 
*sigh* - none of the sources posted are of any credence - just some holictic assessment based on archival research, theoretical extrapolation and anecdotal feedback. In scientific world this kind of reference literature will earn you a title of a 'jester'.
I am not denying the fact that artificial sweetners could potentially be harmful, but that CANNOT be inferred from the 'garbage' above :o
 
You're right but I suspect they would find a correlation in your example too.

Anthrax said:
With that reasoning I guess that the single smell of some hot chocoalte and pecans cookies getting out of the oven would make you fat ;)
 
NJRipped said:
You're right but I suspect they would find a correlation in your example too.

Looks like the Pavlov's dogs :)
 
I stopped reading when it said it illicits an insulin spike. What's he selling? Oh! A book! Full of useful BULLSHIT like that.

Taken from pubmed:

Sweet taste: effect on cephalic phase insulin release in men.

Teff KL, Devine J, Engelman K.

Monell Chemical Senses Center, Philadelphia, PA 19104, USA.

To determine whether sweet-tasting solutions are effective elicitors of cephalic phase insulin release (CPIR) in humans, two studies were conducted using nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners as stimuli. Normal weight men sipped and spit four different solutions: water, aspartame, saccharin, and sucrose. A fifth condition involved a modified sham-feed with apple pie. The five stimuli were administered in counterbalanced order, each on a separate day. In study 1, subjects tasted the stimuli for 1 min (n = 15) and in study 2 (n = 16), they tasted the stimuli for 3 min. Arterialized venous blood was drawn to establish a baseline and then at 1 min poststimulus, followed by every 2 min for 15 min and then every 5 min for 15 min. In both study 1 and study 2, no significant increases in plasma insulin were observed after subjects tasted the sweetened solutions. In contrast, significant increases in plasma insulin occurred after the modified sham-feed with both the 1 min and 3 min exposure. These results suggest that nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners in solution are not adequate stimuli for the elicitation of CPIR.


In summary: the mere taste of sweetness caused by sugar, aspartame, or saccharin caused NO RISE IN INSULIN LEVELS.

If it takes someone less than 5 minutes to disprove your ass, you've got some nerve writing ANYTHING.

This asshat should be caned. Fuck him and fuck his book.

-the guy
 
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What I'm wondering if artificial sweeters (like aspartame) induce an insulin spike why is is used by diabetics? A childhood friend of mine that had type I diabetes drank tons of diet coke. I didn't notice him having to pump in any insulin when he did.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

Not real sugar = no need for insulin.
 
Ish said:
http://www.mamassecrets.com/diet_coke.htm

Countless numbers of dieters consume Diet Coke thinking that it is inert to their diet efforts. After all, it's called Diet Coke, right? Wrong!

Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on

your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight.

There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the

sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks

your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Combined, the

actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle. Understanding

why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.



When it comes to losing fat, it is more about how much sugar (or

sugar substitute) you consume rather than calories or dietary fat

intake. Hence, the goal is to consume as little sugar or sugar

substitute as possible (including fruits and their juices). Why? The

sweet flavor elicits the release of insulin from the pancreas to

enhance the uptake of sugar by the cells so that it doesn't linger

in the bloodstream. Once insulin is released it inhibits your fat

burning hormone called HSL (hormone sensitive lipase). This hormone

is responsible for releasing fat into the bloodstream to be utilized

as fuel. If inhibited, your body is unable to burn fat and will then

begin utilizing amino acids (from muscle) and carbohydrates as fuel.

This will leave you feeling tired, grumpy, and sloth-like toward the

end of the day. Not to mention, you will become abnormally hungry.

Those with large amounts of HSL burn fat all day and look thin and

slim. Those who inhibit it by eating or drinking the wrong

substances grow fat throughout their adult years.



Second, as discovered by Professor Terry Davidson and associate

professor Susan Withers at Purdue University, artificial sweeteners

disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Their results,

published in International Journal of Obesity showed that "mouth

feel" plays a crucial role in the body's ability to count calories

and that when we consume artificial sweeteners we disrupt the body's

ability to count calories based on sweetness. Not able to use mouth

feel to count calories, those who drink diet coke will overeat

without conscious awareness. In other words, you think you're not

eating like a pig, but in reality you are.



Diet Coke is not the only substance having these abilities. Makers

of health food bars and protein supplements are either not aware or

ignore the ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar. This can be

seen by the fact that most every health food bar and protein

supplement is loaded with sugar or artificial sweeteners. The

belief that these bars and supplements are healthy for you is a

perfect example of how marketing strategies can supersede medical

science and common sense.



In closing, Diet Coke is a joke. Stay away from it and other sugar

sources if you're serious about losing fat and keeping it off

forever. Regardless of your diet and/or training efforts, the

aforementioned ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar will

greatly hinder them.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Shane holds a Master's degree in organic chemistry and has first- hand industry experience with drug research, design and synthesis.

He knows that American's want and deserve education, not prescriptions! His shocking book can be found at www.healthmyths.net - His nutritional supplements at www.health- fx.net.


100% Disagree...keep drinking calorie free, sugar free drinks
 
This is just an article I found when a co-worker asked if diet soda was alright. I thought it was, but he has gained around 60-75lbs once he started drinking it all day. He used to drink water at work all the time, but now he probably goes through 2 liters of diet soda a day at work. His diet has changed also, but not that much worse. He is always hungry now also. I would think diet soda was alright in moderation, but I don't know for sure. That's why I wanted to ask the question here where more people know about diet than I do. Is it safe to drink diet soda? Does it have an adverse effect on your kidneys or anything like that? How much is ok, and how much is too much soda? Would you be better off drinking caffine free tea with a pack of splenda? I don't drink it, but I was just curious. Why do I see so many fat people drinking diet soda. I mainly just wanted to get you input on if diet soda was good for you or not. Thanks.
 
Ish said:
This is just an article I found when a co-worker asked if diet soda was alright. I thought it was, but he has gained around 60-75lbs once he started drinking it all day. He used to drink water at work all the time, but now he probably goes through 2 liters of diet soda a day at work. His diet has changed also, but not that much worse. He is always hungry now also. I would think diet soda was alright in moderation, but I don't know for sure. That's why I wanted to ask the question here where more people know about diet than I do. Is it safe to drink diet soda? Does it have an adverse effect on your kidneys or anything like that? How much is ok, and how much is too much soda? Would you be better off drinking caffine free tea with a pack of splenda? I don't drink it, but I was just curious. Why do I see so many fat people drinking diet soda. I mainly just wanted to get you input on if diet soda was good for you or not. Thanks.
Hey.....end of story.....calories in = calories out OR you will gain weight.....very simple. NO WAY you can gain weight from drinking a zero calorie beverage.....I'll put my house on it that his diet was out of wack somewhere else..............
 
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