What's the difference between CKD and Atkins?

[tatertoos]

Look at the thread above this labeled "cutting diet". This is how I dropped a good portion of my fat.

 

[tatertoos]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3548145#post3548145

Here's another good thread...

 

[tatertoos]

It was easier for me to follow this type of diet since it is very hard to cut carbs out altogether, at first. Once you adapt to this type of diet where you are allowed 80-100g carbs, then you can further deplete your carb intake to ketogenic ratios. That's when it may be time to look into CKD if that's the route you want to go.

I'm still continuously losing fat on this program. It's been 5months and I've dropped from 25% bf to 16.5% bf. I had a brief 1 month trial of ckd but I still can't discipline myself to follow it since my results did not warrant it. I will try ckd again, though, if I stall out, or get bored.

 

[Wetback16]

tateroos...you responded to my thread but I have a few questions for you. What kind of flax do you use and where do you get it from? I noticed that your preworkout meal is two apples...How do you have any energy for lifting and never mind that how are you going to preserve any muscle if you arent taking in any carbs before training. Wont you be burning alot more muscle away like that? I also dont understand what is PWO and low GI? I take in about 200 carbs a day and prpobably 50 carbs for my preworkout meal? Is this ok. Here is are my meals...Please let me know how it is...

Meal 1 6:30am 1 scoop ON protein and bowl of cheerios (Protein-25g) Carb - 25g

Meal 2 9:30am 6 egg whites, 1.5 cup of oatmeal, vitamins (Protein-31g) Carb - 43g

Meal 3 12:00 usually chicken, tuna or some kind of protein (35g) and vegetables

Meal 4 3:45 (Preworkout) can of tuna, yogurt, cup of oatmeal and a fruit
Protein (40g) Carb -50g

Meal 5 6:45 either recovery drink Protein-25g Carb 52g or chicken,turkey burgers and vegetable or rice

Meal 6 Btw 9-10 On whey shake (25g protein)

 

[tatertoos]

PWO= Post Work Out
low GI= Slow burning carbs (yams, oats, brown rice, etc...)

The way you keep from burning muscle when you work out is through food that you have eaten previously in the day, or PWO the last time you trained, not through preworkout meals.
Pre-workout meals are a funny thing. Some people believe in them, but I don't see the use when cutting. You can't use the energy from food that you have just eaten. It has not digested yet, therefore, you may just be inhibiting your workout by pulling blood out of your muscles for use in digestion.

I use Udo's oil and Berlean's High lignan flax oil. These two oils taste phenomenal.

I would drop the majority of your carbs until PWO. I try to stay under 80g per day.

 

[Wetback16]

So you dont think I will burn any of the unwanted fat away with the diet I am following now. Dont you think 80 grams of carbs are a little to many. And you said to take most of them post workout...You wouldnt have any energy before you get into the gym???

 

[tatertoos]

Your diet may work, why not try it... If you go a few weeks and don't see the changes that you want then you may want to change things up.

EFA's will help with your energy deficit. The hardest part about the moderate carb diet scheme is the energy deficiency. I utilize plenty of stimulants, too. (i.e. eca's, coffee, diet pop, etc...)

All I can do is give you the suggestions that I have used and proven effective for me.

Good luck!!

 

[Wetback16]

After you finished bulking and started cutting how much were you? What did you cutting cycle look like?