Whats the big deal with hcgenerate? OVER PRICED?

[noodles1010]

hcgenerate is a bit pricey... well worth the dollar in my opinion.. it does exactly what its supposed to do. good luck finding that these days

 

[Dial_tone]

It's good stuff but I should get to drive the Hummer once.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Even with the discount code its 62 bucks, there are other products with the same and more ingredients for 40$.. over priced.. Sorry.

Please let me know which product gives you either 1,000mg of Fadogia and or 1,000mg of Fenugreek - Actually while you are at it, another product that gives you 500mg of Tribulus.

Most formulas out there use less than half the amount of those. Not only that but they hide their ingredients behind proprietary blends so the customer never really knows how much is in there.

Buddy - you are way off on your assumptions. Our manufacturer who also has worked with the top brands in the industry and he flat out tells me the NTBM formulas are VERY expensive to make compared to the top brands - he says it is not a sustainable business model for the supplement industry and that it can't survive. It can't survive because the competition makes bigger promises on bottles that cost less than half what NTBM's costs. NTBM would never be able to sell it's products to a distributor at a sustainable margin, not when HCGenerate would need compete next to $29 tests boosters for store shelves, little $29 and $39 dollar products that have professional marketing teams making up big promises on their weak formulas.

The products NTBM makes cost a ton of cash to make compared to the competition and only the really sophisticated Elite Fitness crowd who can read a Supplement Fact label and understand the products formula and understand the value in each bottle and can ever truly appreciate it.

NTBM may remain too "expensive" for people who can't read a label and only read promises vs. price. for you guys who make it this far and know your shit and know enough to read a label and look t ingredients, std. % and mg amounts and know that NTBM gives you 2-3 supps in one and is only about 20 to 30% higher than the competition and it works!

NTBM will remain an Elite Fitness brand very underground and hardcore. It will never grace the shelves at the major store because we just refuse to make products on price points and margins and rather make stuff we can take ourselves with our cycles, th type of products we can sell to our bros today and look them in the eye and say "here bro, I made this for you" and then come face that customer on the forums and see them and talk to them. Our products get instant reviews and instant feedback - The owner of NTBM still picks up the phone, if a product is not living up to expectations HE HIMSELF gets an earful from the caller.

NTBM is a VALUE based brand, where you get a product with 2x to 3x the potency of others in it's niche while only paying a slight 20%-30% increase in price over the competition. Label to label, nobody can compete.



-BRR

 

[Aussi muscle]

the problem with this debate is that hcgenerate isn't JUST a natty test booster, not even close to all it does. it does so much more than that. its a must run on a cycle because of what it does with your hpta and cholesterol.

2 caps 2X per day is what i use on cycle and it does its job beautifully

They've run out of hcgen ATM and offered me 2 bottles of bridge to double dose, would you take that offer to run on cycle, or would you just wait for the hcgen to come back in

 

[muscleaddiction]

They've run out of hcgen ATM and offered me 2 bottles of bridge to double dose, would you take that offer to run on cycle, or would you just wait for the hcgen to come back in

Yes...it is equivalent to a single dose of HCGenerate and if they are offering it to you then jump on it!

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[noodles1010]

Please let me know which product gives you either 1,000mg of Fadogia and or 1,000mg of Fenugreek - Actually while you are at it, another product that gives you 500mg of Tribulus.

Most formulas out there use less than half the amount of those. Not only that but they hide their ingredients behind proprietary blends so the customer never really knows how much is in there.

Buddy - you are way off on your assumptions. Our manufacturer who also has worked with the top brands in the industry and he flat out tells me the NTBM formulas are VERY expensive to make compared to the top brands - he says it is not a sustainable business model for the supplement industry and that it can't survive. It can't survive because the competition makes bigger promises on bottles that cost less than half what NTBM's costs. NTBM would never be able to sell it's products to a distributor at a sustainable margin, not when HCGenerate would need compete next to $29 tests boosters for store shelves, little $29 and $39 dollar products that have professional marketing teams making up big promises on their weak formulas.

The products NTBM makes cost a ton of cash to make compared to the competition and only the really sophisticated Elite Fitness crowd who can read a Supplement Fact label and understand the products formula and understand the value in each bottle and can ever truly appreciate it.

NTBM may remain too "expensive" for people who can't read a label and only read promises vs. price. for you guys who make it this far and know your shit and know enough to read a label and look t ingredients, std. % and mg amounts and know that NTBM gives you 2-3 supps in one and is only about 20 to 30% higher than the competition and it works!

NTBM will remain an Elite Fitness brand very underground and hardcore. It will never grace the shelves at the major store because we just refuse to make products on price points and margins and rather make stuff we can take ourselves with our cycles, th type of products we can sell to our bros today and look them in the eye and say "here bro, I made this for you" and then come face that customer on the forums and see them and talk to them. Our products get instant reviews and instant feedback - The owner of NTBM still picks up the phone, if a product is not living up to expectations HE HIMSELF gets an earful from the caller.

NTBM is a VALUE based brand, where you get a product with 2x to 3x the potency of others in it's niche while only paying a slight 20%-30% increase in price over the competition. Label to label, nobody can compete.



-BRR

I started that other "ntbm got expensive" thread, and like I said above, THIS PRODUCT IS WORTH EVERY DOLLAR PERIOD.
Guys you can complain about SOME things... This is not one of them.
I agree entirely BRR. Although I disagree totally and entirely with what you said about it not succeeding on the shelves with other competitors promising the world. I think ntbm and hcgenerate would bury the competition given the right marketing, the proper info given out, and the right promotion. Your from ny like me... You really don't think that it would take off out here if it was put on the shelves of a vitamin shoppe or (god don't hate me for saying it) a gnc and promoted right?? I think you might have underestimated the market on the east coast for this a little bro. At least that's how I feel. I love this product and since I've tried it have been a believer in hcgenerate.

 

[Aussi muscle]

Yes...it is equivalent to a single dose of HCGenerate and if they are offering it to you then jump on it!

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Thanks muscleaddiction. Will email them now

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks muscleaddiction. Will email them now

go for it..

but my advice to you in the future is ALWAYS keep an extra bottle in your pantry as a backup.

when you run out of 1 then automatically put in an order for another one when its in stock. this way you will always have it.

 

[muscleaddiction]

^^^ solid advice here!

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[muscleaddiction]

Thanks muscleaddiction. Will email them now

Anytime bro!

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