k , newbs. Those are all decent boxers, but if you want to get into the best... there are some $$$ as companies out there. For my body shape, d&g's b.briefs fit better than anything out there. The legs don't ride up like most other boxer briefs on people w/ muscled up legs. If you want the shite of the shite. Zimmerli has the reputation for being the rolls royce of undies. I own one pair and while I do enjoy them, it's more fun wearing d&g's cuz they are equally comfortable and ladies love seeing designer boxers on a guy. The zimmerlis are made out of a really cool weave though. They feel mesh and are very breathable at comfy. D&g just sells me on the cut.