What to stack with dbol

[Macken1337]

Hey everyone I am currently recovering from my knee reconstruction. I am going to do a cycle in about 2 months once I can cut my bodyfat down to 15%ish and able to run. I am dieting hard right now and lightly lifting weights (hard to lift in a knee brace locked in extension). I have not done a cycle in about 5 years and was wondering what to stack with my 200 10mg dbol pills. I also have arimidex, abuterol, and clomid. The best cycle I have ever done was with dbol/deca and the other 3 I did were dbol only. I was thinking of just running deca again due to not have any side effects when I did it in the past. If anyone knows a better substitute then deca or pros and cons of choosing that over others I would greatly appreciate it. I am 28 currently around 20% bodyfat 5'11 203lbs with 8+years of lifting experience but have taken the last 4 years off and drank a lot of beer (I blame getting married). My goal is to get big and cut up without taking a really long time the all natural way.

 

[DocToxin8]

Deca only with the DBOL is a little old school. Add at least a HRT dose of test, say 100-200mg a week. 100mg if you're trying to avoid using AIs.
This will only help ensure that you'll feel much better on cycle once your natural test is gone.
(F. Ex. To avoid deca dick)

 

[ALIN]

Hey everyone I am currently recovering from my knee reconstruction. I am going to do a cycle in about 2 months once I can cut my bodyfat down to 15%ish and able to run. I am dieting hard right now and lightly lifting weights (hard to lift in a knee brace locked in extension). I have not done a cycle in about 5 years and was wondering what to stack with my 200 10mg dbol pills. I also have arimidex, abuterol, and clomid. The best cycle I have ever done was with dbol/deca and the other 3 I did were dbol only. I was thinking of just running deca again due to not have any side effects when I did it in the past. If anyone knows a better substitute then deca or pros and cons of choosing that over others I would greatly appreciate it. I am 28 currently around 20% bodyfat 5'11 203lbs with 8+years of lifting experience but have taken the last 4 years off and drank a lot of beer (I blame getting married). My goal is to get big and cut up without taking a really long time the all natural way.

I would get back in the gym and a solid diet under you belt for 3 -4 months before jumping on anything again.
TEST goes very well with DBOL.

 

[Macken1337]

I hear Deca is good on the joints though due to storing water in them. I am not going to start my cycle until my body is ready... not worth wasting money on gains I can get from just going to the gym everyday. My diet is pretty good atm I have already lost 2 inches on my waist in 8 weeks without being able to do any cardio. I think not drinking anymore and only eating yogurt, fruit, salad, chicken, and fish should get me down to 15% body fat in 2 months. I have been going to the gym everday for rehab and been lifting lightly (3-4 sets @ high reps) of each muscle group targeted for the day. My goal is 2 months but if it takes longer then I am ok with it. Should I run the albuterol prior to starting my cycle to help me cutdown on fat or run it post cycle??

 

[Macken1337]

What type of Test should I use there is 3 different types and also how should I do the dbol with it @ what dosages do you recommend. When I did dbol/deca I was doing
Week 1 - 15mg dbol ED / 1CC DECA
Week 2 - 15 mg / 1cc
Week 3 - 20 mg / 1.5cc
Week 4 - 25 mg / 2cc
Week 5 - 20 mg / 1.5cc
Week 6 - 15 mg / 1 cc
Week 7 - 10 mg
Week 8 - 10 mg / started clomid forget how much
Week 9 - Clomid

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Test and dbol.... my suggestion

 

[DocToxin8]

It's not easy to find a medical study confirming that deca is better for joints than test, and especially not why. Anecdotal evidence lead us to believe it is though.

From your last cycle you followed the old school DBOL pyramid. No reason to do this IMHO. Just start at the dose you're gonna run.

The different esters attach to test: enanthate or propionate f. ex determine the duration before the testosterone diffuses out of the oil depot, where it is de esterified in the blood and liver, making it active.
So what kind you run depends on how often you want to inject.
You may also have greater control with short esters like prop, read the profiles again.

You need to specify dosage, not CC's of what you're gonna run!

Albuterol can be run before, during and after IMO, each having it own benefits.

Reduction of BF before cycle may reduce risk of sides. Albuterol during may have some synergy.

 

[Macken1337]

It's not easy to find a medical study confirming that deca is better for joints than test, and especially not why. Anecdotal evidence lead us to believe it is though.

From your last cycle you followed the old school DBOL pyramid. No reason to do this IMHO. Just start at the dose you're gonna run.

The different esters attach to test: enanthate or propionate f. ex determine the duration before the testosterone diffuses out of the oil depot, where it is de esterified in the blood and liver, making it active.
So what kind you run depends on how often you want to inject.
You may also have greater control with short esters like prop, read the profiles again.

You need to specify dosage, not CC's of what you're gonna run!

Albuterol can be run before, during and after IMO, each having it own benefits.

Reduction of BF before cycle may reduce risk of sides. Albuterol during may have some synergy.

I appreciate your knowledge and help. I will do test and 15mg a day of dbol for 6-8 weeks probably only a 100 to 150mg of test a week. How long should I take the arimidex and how many mg a day... I read somewhere between .5 and 1mg ED didnt say when to take it. Also should I add nolva with the clomid for pct?

 

[DocToxin8]

15mg DBOL with a HRT test dose, well since its for recovery you may get something out of it.
But on such a low dose I wouldn't start an AI right away, but rather keep it on hand.
Many will probably tell you to just drop it with such a low dose, but I've seen people recover faster even with such a low dose.
(It all depends on your injury)

When it comes to clomid or nolva, there are lots of opinions.
I haven't seen any evidence for estrogen priming of the hypothalamus in men,
so nolva without clomid should do fine for PCT IMHO.
If anyone has any strong argument against this, by all means, do both, but I don't think you'll get any better effect on LH release.