What to do for shoulders?!?!?!?

[sidney61199]

Wouldn't a basic hand stand even with just your feet barely touching the wall (for balance) be that thing called concentric some thing or other. I know I'm not very clear but thats cause I don't know what its called, I was hoping some one could fill in the blanks for me. You know that thing where body builders hold a certain pose for a long time to engorge the muscle with blood and tax it to make it grow and become more pumped. I hope this makes sense to some one cause I know what I'm talking about is out there just can't think what the hell it's called. It might actually be called a concentric rep, I don't know.

 

[b fold the truth]

I really wish that everyone with shoulder probems would get a log made like for Strongman. A 6" log would be perfect. About 55 lbs, fries the shoulders when you press it (standing or seated) and a great way for people with shoulder problems to really push their shoulders without injury.

 

[jpt]

i do standing arnold presses with 40lbs.....completely fries them!!! sometimes standing barbell presses with just dimes on the side does the trick too....both of these if don't correctly doesnt hurt either shoulder....not sure where you can get a strongman log from lol....although i'm sure people here know.

 

[sidney61199]

No offense but if you want size I would think you would need to go heavy. I was doing (changed routine) 185lb military presses. I'm not in any kind of amazing shape but I do have people come up in public and complement me on the size of my shoulders. Not every day but every so often. I also do (did) heavy dumbbell presses to like around 75 to 80lbs with the rep range around 8 or so.

 

[kylestyle]

A handstand pushup done on the flat ground is a partial ROM. Yes, it is difficult to do, but more because of the balancing factor than the weight. Also, try doing them not leaning against a wall, talk about working supporting muscles. If you want a full ROM, place two chairs together, and place your hands on those. Handstands are decent, but IMHO ring muscle ups are even better ;-). Or, just plain muscle-ups on a chinup bar.

That's a good idea.. Once I master the standing handstand and then pushups.. I plan on doing the chair thing.. NICE

 

[silver_shadow]

That's a good idea.. Once I master the standing handstand and then pushups.. I plan on doing the chair thing.. NICE

yea, there was a nice post with an article on this a few weeks back... something about old timers.

 

[Buster Brown]

I didn't want to create a new thread so I'm posting this here.

I'm a hard gainer and have my routine:

1st Day: Chest/Shoulders/Tri's

2nd Day: Legs

3rd Day: back/biceps/forearms

For shoulders I have been doing seated dumbell raises and then standing barbell raises. My arms are getting big, but my tri's from the front stick out more than my shoulders. It's gotten to the point where I'm choosing not to go up in weight for my triceps because my shoulders are lagging so much.

Would lateral raises make them wider? Do compound movements like presses NOT make them wider?

One thing to add is that I've been doing the standing barbell raise with a wide grip, almost as wide as the bench press, and only recently have I been using a closer grip, and bringing the bar down in front of me, then raising it, and directly over my head, so that I feel like I hit the delts better.

Should I just wait to go up in weight with the presses or are lateral raises the missing part of my routine? And what is tucking the elbows in? Right now I just have my arms out to my side directly when lifting so that their facing left and right.

Thanks for any replies.