What Supplements?

[BIGRICH]

Thanks to all for all your halp.

 

[Iron Queen]

Bigrich...

My personal opinion on the calories... she can definitely lower her calories. 1800 calories is a hell of a lot of calories when dieting. Now for me when I did my contest diet I was down to 1100-1200 calories per day and that was WITH twice per day cardios... Yes I came in pretty shredded but I'm just trying to make you see the calorie difference. There is no way in hell I would have lost enough weight and been so lean if I was eating even 1500 calories.

 

[VeggieLifterChick]

About the calories...I'm sure NYM and Spatts and Temple would tell you not to go below 10 times bodyweight when dieting, and if she's working out, probably not below 12x bodyweight. In my opinion the exact number really varies on the person, but eating clean makes the biggest difference. Remember her health is very important, and going below 10x the weight could jeopardize her well being. She's not trying to shred up, she's trying to lose fat. Don't get into all the complicated stuff now. Just try to get her on a good diet without much of the sugary or fatty stuff, keep her eating 5 times a day, drinking water, taking a multivitamin, and THEN worry about calorie counting. I think the Body For Life principles Bill Phillips lays out in his book by the same name are a wonderful starting point for someone who is just starting to get into (or get back into) the fit lifestyle. Equal amounts of carbs and protein, minimal fats. I think that as soon as she starts eating clean and starts lifting the fat will fall right off. No need to obsess about the exact numbers until she's got like 10-15 # left to go.

 

[VeggieLifterChick]

Also, you mentioned using an ECA stack. Supplements like that aren't exactly good for you, so maybe you might want to consider not having her use that until she starts to plateau. With the amount of weight she wants to lose, just eating clean and working out alone should yield good results.

 

[Temple]

IQ - when you were restricting that heavily were you on some gear to help preserve muscle?? What were your stats?

 

[Temple]

Do you think you would have lost a bunch of muscle without the gear on that low of cals? Without gear when I would drop mine like that I would lose 1# muscle for every 1# of fat but maybe that is just me.

 

[Iron Queen]

For sure I would have lost a ton of muscle w/o AAS. Positively. I held all the muscle I had and I think actually put some on in the beginning... This time I'll be able to eat a little more bc my LBM is about 10 lbs higher so it wont be so bad. I'm psyched to start dieting for my next show!! Can't wait!

--IQ