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slobberknocker
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Dbol is probably the most potent muscle building steroid in existence. The science behind not keeping gains from a dbol only cycle, you ask? There is none. It's bullshit. 
What is the science behind not keeping gains on a dbol only cycle?
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Pat Mycroch
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slobberknocker is correct
Diabolical
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Okay bros,
Run the dbol for 6 weeks(whit liquidex), then get your liver values checked.
If they are normal, then keep going to finish off the 12 weeker.]
The l-dex will eliminate the water, so everything you see is what you get (muscle-wise) and get your clomid and you could see test like results for a fraction of the price.
BTW, I am on mt pain meds for my surgery.,.....so if this post is hard to understand then PM me and I'll holla back at you
DBOL AND TEST ARE THE ONLY 2 AAS THAT i WOULD USE WITHOUT ADDING ANOTHER COMPOUND.
Hope this helps,
-Dr. D
Run the dbol for 6 weeks(whit liquidex), then get your liver values checked.
If they are normal, then keep going to finish off the 12 weeker.]
The l-dex will eliminate the water, so everything you see is what you get (muscle-wise) and get your clomid and you could see test like results for a fraction of the price.
BTW, I am on mt pain meds for my surgery.,.....so if this post is hard to understand then PM me and I'll holla back at you
DBOL AND TEST ARE THE ONLY 2 AAS THAT i WOULD USE WITHOUT ADDING ANOTHER COMPOUND.
Hope this helps,
-Dr. D
I'm also with slobberknocker, dbol is an awesome steroid, my favourite by far. I have run it with liquidex, so none of the great gains were water, and kept them all afterwards. All you would lose coming off if you do correct post cycle therapy is the water, the rest is an old wives tale....
Bulldog_10
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I think two more points that need to be made are:
#1: When using dbol, people commonly only run about 4-5 week cycles, which will not put on much mass.
#2: Most people that do dbol only cycles are inexperienced...not only with AAS, but also in the gym.
#1: When using dbol, people commonly only run about 4-5 week cycles, which will not put on much mass.
#2: Most people that do dbol only cycles are inexperienced...not only with AAS, but also in the gym.
psychedout
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Two very good points bulldog.
some info to the contrary of all you water weight believers. With Proof!
Originally posted by StoneColdNTO on www.musclenexus.com
Dianabol often gets a bad rap for being nothing more than a "bloating" drug.While it is true that the initial onset of weight gains are usually induced by estradiol influenced edema,once the drug has been administered for consecutive weeks,many subsequent anabolic reactions take place(more than are listed in this study)and true HYPERTROPHY is realized.And contrary to popular opinion,it does not all fade away after discontinuation.They don't call it the breakfast of champions for nothingEnjoy my brothas....
Clin Sci (Colch) 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61
Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.
Hervey GR, Knibbs AV, Burkinshaw L, Morgan DB, Jones PR, Chettle DR, Vartsky D.
1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.
Originally posted by StoneColdNTO on www.musclenexus.com
Dianabol often gets a bad rap for being nothing more than a "bloating" drug.While it is true that the initial onset of weight gains are usually induced by estradiol influenced edema,once the drug has been administered for consecutive weeks,many subsequent anabolic reactions take place(more than are listed in this study)and true HYPERTROPHY is realized.And contrary to popular opinion,it does not all fade away after discontinuation.They don't call it the breakfast of champions for nothingEnjoy my brothas....
Clin Sci (Colch) 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61
Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.
Hervey GR, Knibbs AV, Burkinshaw L, Morgan DB, Jones PR, Chettle DR, Vartsky D.
1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.
Bulldog_10
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geoboy said:
I'd just say that if you want to use it, go with .25mg/ED no matter the dosage...but I wouldn't use it unless you're up around 20-30mg/ED.
