Guys just wanted to throw my input in on this too. Used it post cycle as Needto had told me to and it seemed that it really caused me to tighten up a bit. I know it mentioned it can be used by itself for fat loss but I think that along with other support supps it achieved this as well. I know my post count over here is low but my home is over on the NTBM boards. New over here. Hope I helped some though.
Speak freely on elite bro . No one is looked down on here no matter how new or old they are to the site. Because if some one acts like a child here I just ban them when I cathc them doing it. SO will the other mods.