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What is so scary about Tren?

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dosteov

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I'm seriouslly thinking about running Tren E in my next cycle. I'm honestly kind of nervous about the sides though. The stuff you read on these boards about it is kind of crazy. I'm worried about the mental sides. I'm very laid back by nature but I do get anxious (not mad or agressive) sometimes. Are the mental sides really that bad? Is this something I should be concerned about? I'm going to take Tren E 400mgs a week. I heard that the Tren E is better for sides because it gives you more even blood levels. Is this true?

I've also heard some conflicting things regarding whether it's toxic on your liver and kidneys. I thought that it wasn't at all but some people clearly think it is. What's the truth?
 
I think some are leery of fina because its results are so dramatic. When you're on, you're really on. You feel the hardness come on like a freight train. Bad back cramps. Night sweats.

On the other hand, the nice thing about acetate is that it leaves your system quickly, so if you find that you just can't take it, you can always just quit and mail the leftovers to me.
 
If you use acetate every day, your blood levels will be even and you'll reduce your sides, per Ulter. The night sweats suck, but it's all for the good! ;)
 
just add in some test... help with the sides..
I did it alone.. and felt pouty... and a little moody... ( like a bitch ) ha ha..
you need test in your system to keep you feeling like a man..
 
rnch said:
what's scary is how well it seems to work!!
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Lol. So all that stuff I've been reading is kind of exagerrated. I won't walk around pissed off all day? I'm not going to end up in jail for assault by the end of my cycle?

Is 400mg a week a good dose to go on?
 
dosteov said:
Lol. So all that stuff I've been reading is kind of exagerrated. I won't walk around pissed off all day? I'm not going to end up in jail for assault by the end of my cycle?

Is 400mg a week a good dose to go on?
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You'll be fine. You'll notice that you are a little more edgy, but just save your aggression for the gym. Always think before you act.
 
I had very light night sweats, and NO other sides except massive strength gains and muscle hardness....











Oh and a small case of fina dick (Not to be confused with small dick on fina), but I have cabaser for the next bout.
 
EVERYBODY'S different, dude........few of us react the same way.

i've known peeps who did tren/test/winny runs that got awesome results with little noticeable side effects.

i suspect a lot of peeps use a suppliment run as the scapegoat for their own personality short-comings.
 
dosteov said:
I'm seriouslly thinking about running Tren E in my next cycle. I'm honestly kind of nervous about the sides though. The stuff you read on these boards about it is kind of crazy. I'm worried about the mental sides. I'm very laid back by nature but I do get anxious (not mad or agressive) sometimes. Are the mental sides really that bad? Is this something I should be concerned about? I'm going to take Tren E 400mgs a week. I heard that the Tren E is better for sides because it gives you more even blood levels. Is this true?

I've also heard some conflicting things regarding whether it's toxic on your liver and kidneys. I thought that it wasn't at all but some people clearly think it is. What's the truth?
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I was just like that when i wanted to try it I heard all of the same stuff, everybody warned me if i get mad to just calm down because "man its the tren" but iam very laid back also and i waited 4 weeks into my cycle to do it and there were no "mental sides" at all, i was even going through the early stages of a brake up with my girl and never had an outburst or anything like that. I thought it was good stuff except for the loss of libido and long recovery because is was uneducated about PCT (dont be that way). The liver and kidney problems are just that, conflicting but in my own personal use and research i had no problems with tren at all except for libido, and in research i have seen several pages say that kidney trouble is a myth and on a pharmacy site it said none had ever been documented in studies but a good friend of mine said he had "kidney pains" so I think the more you dig on fina the more conflicting it will be until you try it for yourself. Overall I liked it and would do it again.



"Life is ours we live it our way"

METALLICA
'Nothing else matters' :evil:
 
dosteov said:
I'm seriouslly thinking about running Tren E in my next cycle. I'm honestly kind of nervous about the sides though. The stuff you read on these boards about it is kind of crazy. I'm worried about the mental sides. I'm very laid back by nature but I do get anxious (not mad or agressive) sometimes. Are the mental sides really that bad? Is this something I should be concerned about? I'm going to take Tren E 400mgs a week. I heard that the Tren E is better for sides because it gives you more even blood levels. Is this true?

I've also heard some conflicting things regarding whether it's toxic on your liver and kidneys. I thought that it wasn't at all but some people clearly think it is. What's the truth?
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You know bro, thats a great question. I was scared too, advised against taking tren, was told your not ready for it, its too powerful, etc... Well I'm at the end of my 5th week, 75mg Zencall Labs Tren Ace EOD, and I'm not sure what all the fuss was about. It does indeed KILL your appetite. Aggression and mood has definitely been affected, but nothing I can't handle.

Night sweats are not that bad, maybe I'm just resistant to them. I do sweat a lot through the day, like right now just sitting here in my chair typing this, I can feel beeds of sweat forming all over my body. It did really cut a lot of fat off, especially around the mid-section. It murdered what little spare tire I did have so I'm happy about that. Not sure how much longer I'm going to run it because I tons left. Vascularity increased as well which is very nice. I say give tren ace a shot and if its too bad, you can just stop as it leaves the system quickly. Good luck!
 
ya and the best part is ... that you will learn about roid rage.. that is there... there is none... unless you are just looking for an excuse.. to be an ass..
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the OP mentioned Tren E so I was thinking it was Enanthate??


Any difference in sides if I were only spiking myself twice a week for a total of 400mg/wk?
 
I'll go with what some of the guys said "everyone is different and your level of maturity and mental as well of physical fitness is a factor"

For me on tren the main deal is the commonly known "tren cough" which is a bad cough and shortness of breath after doing the shot........now I mix my tren with some other test like cyp and take some clenbuterol to help my lungs get more air....

Always tell someone of trust what your going to be doing..........
 
Dosteov mentioned Tren E (enanthate). That's different from Tren Acetate. If you start Tren E for the first time and your sides are nasty, you're fucked!
 
djufo said:
Dosteov mentioned Tren E (enanthate). That's different from Tren Acetate. If you start Tren E for the first time and your sides are nasty, you're fucked!
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really? I would think if you stopped the shots, it might take a few days to get out (this is with the tren hexycarbonate I am thinking)
 
I'll withhold judgement until I cycle it....

Just heard some dirty shit about it.......(Tren Tumors) :sick:




DIV

:chomp:
 
The scariest thing for me was how friggin veiny and muscular I looked in such a short amount of time...

But in all seriousness, my urine was very dark after a few weeks on 75mg daily, but I don't believe there should be any significant long-term problems if you restrict cycle length and take precautions for the kidneys (e.g. cranberry concentrate). There haven't been any long-term studies on the use of it in humans, so no one here can really reach any solid conclusions about its dangers.
 
best AAS out there! sides for me were darker urine, night sweats and sleeplessness. benefits were great strength, hardness, rippedness! ZERO mood changes...except may increased cockiness (NOT RAGE) from my rapidly changing physique.

noticed wasn't getting usual morning wood while on but after being off for couple weeks no more darker urine, night sweats, and normal erections.

something about tren...you really feel like you have crossed into the dark side. even more than test. it is a great feeling. :evil:
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I believe the one common trend amongst Trebolone users is the fantastic results they recieve from the substance. Do the commonly mentioned side effects exist? Yes, in fact they do. However, the types and extent of the side effects will vary depending on the individual. Many of these side effects are over exaggerated at times. The only way to find out is to see for yourself. Personally, I've never encountered any side effects such as profused sweating, insomnia and erectile dysfunction during the cycle. They only time I've had problems with trenbolone was during PCT. Trenbolone causes my prolactin levels to skyrocket, approximately double the high normal range. Even so, I do not display any significant problems to warrant any immdediate concern, but my blood work clearly shows supressed HPTA functionality. Without an anti prolactin and during times when prolactin is elevated, my test levels stay well below 350 ng/dl after 4 weeks of PCT. In this situation, with the usage of an anti prolactin such as Cabergoline, my test levels return to the 700+ ng/dl range as expected. By incoporating Cabergoline into my cycles containing Trebolone, I have avoided any further instances of elevated prolactin levels during cycle or when begining PCT.

Jenetic
 
dosteov said:
Lol. So all that stuff I've been reading is kind of exagerrated. I won't walk around pissed off all day? I'm not going to end up in jail for assault by the end of my cycle?

Is 400mg a week a good dose to go on?
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Bro, you will have aggression on TAP there is not doubt about it but it isn’t anything that cannot be managed and its not like your going too run around pissed off. I believe people who RAGE are assholes anyway and the gear is a good excuse for being weak and not able to control themselves.
 
FlexManning said:
What's so scary to me right now is that if people keep talking about so much fina's going to get pulled.
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i heard they quite making it a long time ago... they use Synovex, Ralgro
mostly for cattle now.. so they dont need it... they like the added estrogen wieght...
 
Nighthawkk said:
The scariest thing for me was how friggin veiny and muscular I looked in such a short amount of time...

But in all seriousness, my urine was very dark after a few weeks on 75mg daily, but I don't believe there should be any significant long-term problems if you restrict cycle length and take precautions for the kidneys (e.g. cranberry concentrate). There haven't been any long-term studies on the use of it in humans, so no one here can really reach any solid conclusions about its dangers.
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Yep, dark urine here too.

Also Tren rage is nothing compared to a daily drive in morning traffic.
 
The sides were to much for me...
Never got any rage off it. It's the best I ever used, but couldn't fall asleep...
 
I will not touch the homebrew. A few guys from my old gym got cancerous tumors on the back and necks. They had to be cut out. It was gross. Unless someone has access to a clean room and makes it there I would touch it. UG stuff is fine with me. Vet too. I just don't like the idea of some guy making it in his kitchen!!!!
 
slat1 said:
I will not touch the homebrew. A few guys from my old gym got cancerous tumors on the back and necks. They had to be cut out. It was gross. Unless someone has access to a clean room and makes it there I would touch it. UG stuff is fine with me. Vet too. I just don't like the idea of some guy making it in his kitchen!!!!
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doubt they to it from .. home brew..
 
slat1 said:
I will not touch the homebrew. A few guys from my old gym got cancerous tumors on the back and necks. They had to be cut out. It was gross. Unless someone has access to a clean room and makes it there I would touch it. UG stuff is fine with me. Vet too. I just don't like the idea of some guy making it in his kitchen!!!!
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Where do you think most UG labs make the shit?

I would say the tumors were fomr TREN, not because of homebrew.
 
Guvna said:
I would say the tumors were fomr TREN, not because of homebrew.
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you would? how do you know this? what is this about tren and tumors all of the sudden? never heard about this before. if anyone has any VALID info about this please post.
 
glennds said:
you would? how do you know this? what is this about tren and tumors all of the sudden? never heard about this before. if anyone has any VALID info about this please post.
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Bump for that
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
The sides were to much for me...
Never got any rage off it. It's the best I ever used, but couldn't fall asleep...
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WHat about eq? ever try it? I've got an anxiety problem that has me a little concerned. Havent tried it yet but I can't even take allergy meds with stimulants, I'll have a psychotic reaction. I'm on klonopin and I think it reacts with the klonopin. I can always take more klonopin it this happens though. It's a bitch of a feeling that you don't want to experience.
 
I've heard about those Tren tumors. Maybe is dose-related??
 
I hate the bloat. Especially if I eat junk food. If you also do Creatine (which I stopped), you look a baloon.
I don't know whether it is Eq or Tren, but I find hard to eat.
Cramps and muscle spasms second worst part.
Difficulty in sleeping.
No problem with libido though. Mine is actually up. Erection is less than desirable.
 
biteme said:
WHat about eq? ever try it? I've got an anxiety problem that has me a little concerned. Havent tried it yet but I can't even take allergy meds with stimulants, I'll have a psychotic reaction. I'm on klonopin and I think it reacts with the klonopin. I can always take more klonopin it this happens though. It's a bitch of a feeling that you don't want to experience.
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I had/have an anxiety problem (I guess once you've had one it never really goes away). I've also taken Klonopin. I ran EQ 400mg a week for 14 weeks and never had any anxiety issues on it. I also took Klonopin a few times to help me relaxe and sleep while on. I can't imagine why EQ would react to klonopin and think that statement is probably totally false.
 
i'm really, really wanting to try it in anupcoming cycle. in terms of keeping blood levels consistant, do you think a m-w-f inject of 75mg/day(m-w-f total of 225mg/week) is a good enough dose? i'm all about keeping doses low, cuz i don't want to deal w/ blowing up. i'd rather have a low dose and work harder in the gym,than being able to slack a lil bit but up the dose. does this look okay?

week 1-8 prop/ 300mg/week
week 1-4 tren ace 225mg/week
ramping t3/clen combo for 6 weeks
week 5-8 50mg winny ed?
that look okay? oh yeah, i have proper pct also.
 
Makavelli said:
Contollable rage? Isn't that an oxymorone?
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lol, must spread before giving to makavelli again...
DAMN IT.
Bionic
 
I have noticed that tren causes dark urine, but if I try and overhydrate, it clears up. Try drinking two gallons a day. I got the cough for the first time the other day, but was fine after just a couple of minutes.

I have to say the strength gains, hardness and positives far out weigh the sides.

I am running 75 mg ED for 12 weeks with 100 mg prop.
 
buckeyes#1 said:
I have noticed that tren causes dark urine, but if I try and overhydrate, it clears up. Try drinking two gallons a day. I got the cough for the first time the other day, but was fine after just a couple of minutes.

I have to say the strength gains, hardness and positives far out weigh the sides.

I am running 75 mg ED for 12 weeks with 100 mg prop.
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Did you have any sleeplessness issues?
 
glennds said:
you would? how do you know this? what is this about tren and tumors all of the sudden? never heard about this before. if anyone has any VALID info about this please post.
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UG and homebrew are pretty much the same thing. Tren is a very harsh drug on the body, not one body system specific, but systematic. I dont see ANYTHING in slightly unsterile brewing conditions, or in the fina tabs that could cause tumors on the neck and back (not anywhere around the injection site). Using deductive reasoning, it would seem to me that the tren is the culprit. Also, side effect wil vary person to person, as always.
 
LoneTree said:
I hate the bloat. Especially if I eat junk food. If you also do Creatine (which I stopped), you look a baloon.
I don't know whether it is Eq or Tren, but I find hard to eat.
Cramps and muscle spasms second worst part.
Difficulty in sleeping.
No problem with libido though. Mine is actually up. Erection is less than desirable.
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Bloat with tren? Never heard of that.
 
really.............should be just the opposite with tren!
 
biteme said:
WHat about eq? ever try it?
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Yes. It's my fav :p
biteme said:
I've got an anxiety problem that has me a little concerned.
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I've had anxiety problems in the past. Ran it @ 600mg EW last cycle. No problems. I'll run it every cycle.
 
toxicsambo said:
Yep, dark urine here too.

Also Tren rage is nothing compared to a daily drive in morning traffic.
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Drove every morning in Houston for years still boils down to control, its senseless to get all pissed off about heavy traffic it doesn't help the traffic move along any faster
 
Makavelli said:
Bloat with tren? Never heard of that.
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This is what I am taking:
Deca 300
Tran enan 250
Eq 200

I was on Deca 300 for 2 weeks before I started Tren+Eq
Then the bloat happened.
Someone who saw me after 3 months, asked why my 'face was swollen'.
Tren is the one most likely to cause it, especially if I eat food high in salt (like pizza).
 
Guvna said:
UG Using deductive reasoning, it would seem to me that the tren is the culprit. Also, side effect wil vary person to person, as always.
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appreciate the response guvna, but your deductive reasoning not strong evidence that tren causes tumors.

i have done much research on tren since i recently used. was aware of many of the potential side effects but never read anything about Tren Tumors. in endless EF threads never remember seeing this either. that is scary stuff and should not be thrown around so casually.
 
On Day 3 @ 50mg ed, cant wait for it to begin working, Tren is my FAVORITE!
Bionic :artist:
 
Makavelli said:
Bloat with tren? Never heard of that.
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My thoughts exactly.

Lone, you just have a shitball diet. Pizza, salty foods? Why use aas if you're going to look like shit? It's definitely NOT the Tren. It's you.
 
glennds said:
appreciate the response guvna, but your deductive reasoning not strong evidence that tren causes tumors.

i have done much research on tren since i recently used. was aware of many of the potential side effects but never read anything about Tren Tumors. in endless EF threads never remember seeing this either. that is scary stuff and should not be thrown around so casually.
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I agree. Problem is there are no tren studies. It is really all anecdotal. I have, however, NEVER heard of tumors form anything but tren. UG, or homebrew.
 
toxicsambo said:
My thoughts exactly.

Lone, you just have a shitball diet. Pizza, salty foods? Why use aas if you're going to look like shit? It's definitely NOT the Tren. It's you.
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Yep. There's the culprit... ;)
 
Makavelli said:
Yep. There's the culprit... ;)
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Tren does not and will not cause bloat... :worried: :worried:
If you can show me 1 iota of evidence stating otherwise i apologize, but.... Im not holding my breath.
Bionic
 
BionicBC said:
Tren does not and will not cause bloat... :worried: :worried:
If you can show me 1 iota of evidence stating otherwise i apologize, but.... Im not holding my breath.
Bionic
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Right. That's what I was saying Bio.
 
Another thing about Tren is that your appetite is completely fkd. Well, for most but not all users. I just drank a whey isolate shake and I feel like throwing up. The only time I even think of putting something in my stomach is after a workout. Besides that, I don't think of food at all.
 
toxicsambo said:
Another thing about Tren is that your appetite is completely fkd. Well, for most but not all users. I just drank a whey isolate shake and I feel like throwing up. The only time I even think of putting something in my stomach is after a workout. Besides that, I don't think of food at all.
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Which is another benefit of tren while dieting... ;)
 
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