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What do yall take with your PCT?
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wolfman87
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the TRS, forged post cycle, aromasin, more food than ever. those are the main ingredients to maintaining strength and gaining weight through pct in my experience. also i like to use creatine and pre workout a couple weeks after starting my pct. i'm not a fan of continually using pre workouts but it helps keep those pumps while your transitioning.
i do HCG all thru out the cycle as small dosages (500iu weekly), then for PCT im a strong believer of clomid and aromasin. This has been proven over and over again to work. None of these supplements that are popular on this forum will do anything close to what clomid (or nolvadex, whatever you choose) and aromasin (or arimidex) will do for your recovery.
I know makes some people feel shitty, but fuck, it works.
edit, i also like to use creatine monohydrate when i come off.
I know makes some people feel shitty, but fuck, it works.
edit, i also like to use creatine monohydrate when i come off.
wolfman87
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personal opinion. just sayin.
True...they won't make you feel like shit, kill libido, mess up your lipids or lessen gains. They'll just work better.
Deltoid_87
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U seem to know ur shit. I've read ur thread about ur theory on Nolva lol but can u explain why u hate Clomid?
Carlito B
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Me too, my favorite PCT drugs are Aromasin , Hcg and Sarms-4
I spoke out about Clomid and wrote about how the research was skewed over 10 years ago when everybody thought I was nuts. Now, it's becoming accepted.
It's too complicated to get into but it's essentially the same reasons why Nolva sucks. Chemically, they're actually similar.
Fudge Tunnel
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Fudge Tunnel
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Yeah, right. It's too complicated because you're misinformed.
The reason nolva is so bad is due to the fact that it suppresses IGF-1 levels as well as GH. It does improve cholesterol levels, but it is still a poor choice.
wolfman87
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i can't help but lol at this. can you elaborate on why you think clomid is soooooo much better that you felt the need to say we're misinformed? what does it do that the TRS, aromasin, unleashed/forged, liv 52, proper calorie intake doesn't do better?
throw in hcg and it's over, but i prefer to run it during the cycle myself.
Fudge Tunnel
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i can't help but lol at this. can you elaborate on why you think clomid is soooooo much better that you felt the need to say we're misinformed? what does it do that the TRS, aromasin, unleashed/forged, liv 52, proper calorie intake doesn't do better?
throw in hcg and it's over, but i prefer to run it during the cycle myself.
You can easily google a seach on clomid an the studies which prove it works, can you say the same about these OTC products?
I never said anything negative about aromasin, it is the best A/I in my opinion.
hooverdeuce
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So how do you feel about toremifene Nelson?
wolfman87
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i already know what it does. i just wanted to hear your opinion on why you think it's so much better than the products i listed. just because something is otc doesn't mean it's worthless, hence the fact why many many people prefer them to clomid and nolva. not all of course just quite a bit. i chalk it up to not being converted by using them yet lol, but again that's just my opinion.
hooverdeuce
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Jhotsauce7
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Torem is the shit. I did PCT from an 8 week test/tren cycle.. my first run with tren, and came back magically. Kept good gains and felt way better than on nolva/clomid combo. plus those two are both hepatoxic. Never use HCG either unless you've been on for 6 months or something
hooverdeuce
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Why do you say not to use HCG?
Jhotsauce7
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HCG will spike up estrogen even more. It will restore LH but its just not needed. You won't be so suppressed where a regular torem or nolva pct won't bring you back fast.
This is my opinion, again...
We have a door if you don't like it here..................
Fucking criminal.
Clomid, aromasin and HCG ALWAYS Worked for me and I did 20 week runs of test, tren, and deca. just saying...
Ignore this if you totally disagree.
Oh i'm so ignoring this
RADAR
We have a door if you don't like it here..................
Fucking criminal.
Clomid, aromasin and HCG ALWAYS Worked for me and I did 20 week runs of test, tren, and deca. just saying...
Ignore this if you totally disagree.
Oh i'm so ignoring this
RADAR
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noodles
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I wouldnt even consider doing a PCT plan without HCG; when you witness your ball double in size after two weeks use you know something is working there.
Clomid puts me in an "ill" mood so I dont use it anymore, it does work very well though.
For my PCT this cycle I'm using HCG, Nova (doesnt affect my mood), and I'm giving HC Gen, Post Cycle, Bridge a try for the first time.
I'm going to try taking HCGen the last 6 weeks of my cycle.
Hopefully I keep most my gains and my natural Test comes back nicely.
Clomid puts me in an "ill" mood so I dont use it anymore, it does work very well though.
For my PCT this cycle I'm using HCG, Nova (doesnt affect my mood), and I'm giving HC Gen, Post Cycle, Bridge a try for the first time.
I'm going to try taking HCGen the last 6 weeks of my cycle.
Hopefully I keep most my gains and my natural Test comes back nicely.
wolfman87
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i read somewhere that just because your flesh balloons (lol) are normal sized doesn't mean they are producing as much test as they can.
idk who methadone is talking to, but no ones trying to change your mind bro. we're simply stating the facts, no one's going to twist your arm to try something new. it's just a shame how some people get stuck on one thing because it's familiar to them and never find out about anything else. i like to broaden my horizons and sometimes it works out great and sometimes it's a failure, that's just the way it goes. the important thing is that you tried. it's not like i'll be doing this exact same pct everytime. all i know is that nolva is not for me and close proximity to clomid and what i've read as well suggests the same for it.
all i'm saying is don't bash it until you try it. it's like when your mom made you eat something that looked gross, but turned out to be good.
idk who methadone is talking to, but no ones trying to change your mind bro. we're simply stating the facts, no one's going to twist your arm to try something new. it's just a shame how some people get stuck on one thing because it's familiar to them and never find out about anything else. i like to broaden my horizons and sometimes it works out great and sometimes it's a failure, that's just the way it goes. the important thing is that you tried. it's not like i'll be doing this exact same pct everytime. all i know is that nolva is not for me and close proximity to clomid and what i've read as well suggests the same for it.
all i'm saying is don't bash it until you try it. it's like when your mom made you eat something that looked gross, but turned out to be good.
You guys act like a bunch of fucking children. Cut the shit or leave the site. That goes for EVERYONE
needtogetaas
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I'll be going over this thread tonight. Lots of people will be banned. GOD people grow up!!!!!!!!!!
Lots of people joining banned camp later tonight. THAT IS ALL!!!!!!!!!
Lots of people joining banned camp later tonight. THAT IS ALL!!!!!!!!!
needtogetaas
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Fudge tunnel is banned. He will go run and cry to his little gay forum that he came from too. Fudge was banned because he is a former member who has already been banned (salad fork) and he was just here to make trouble. I already knew who he was a long time ago but I let him stay. He (for the second time) becoem more trouble then he was worth. Anyone else want to join him?
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