We all use Clomid right...please use MACA

[HighIntensity]

MACA MACA MACA

I am trying to help people out here, spend the 30 bucks and get some MACA run it with clomid...

remember my 4 month tren run, well what is it three weeks out now and my balls and libido are back....

My gains have stuck, I did not get the clomid blues either,.,

some simple research of the herb will describe why BBs use this herb all the time.

 

[ROLGOR]

How about a link and dosage bro?

 

[hitmeoff]

yeah man, how much MACA should we stock up on?

 

[40butpumpin]

Thanks for posting this brother, I need it right now.

This is from Beyond a Century web site (reprinted without permission):

NEW! MACA, now 4: 1 extract, is from a tuber of a plant from high altitudes of the Peruvian Andes. Cultivated by the Incas for at least 2000 years, it has been shown to have value as a nutritive, antifatigue, aphrodisiac, immunostimulant, & tonic. The worldwide popularity of maca is growing due to its energizing effects; enhancement of fertility and sexual functioning for men & women; normalizing menstrual and menopausal function; promoting mental clarity; increasing endurance; and use as a “steroid replacement” by bodybuilders because of maca sterol content. About 1g per day is normal dose. 100 grams, $9.75. Code 868.1

 

[FBI]

what about clomid and nolva. say clomid 300,100,50 like we all do and 10 mg of nolva also on those days. think it would be of any benefit?

 

[Addicted]

Hi!!!

what brand? I picked up some by Nature's Herbs, but since this stuff isn't regulated, I want to make sure I have a good brand....I am also adding stinging nettle. Thanks for the info, your post on maca a while back peaked my interest!!!

 

[HighIntensity]

brand wise I went with the powder of

Beyond a Century tastes a little shitty but I just threw it in with my creatine, I used a ton the first 2 weeks.

GNC makes maca man which is suppose to be really good, it has some other herbs thrown in

 

[muscleup]

Cool thanks bro...will be coming off in a few weeks

 

[Frackal]

Im going to order some maca and vitex off that site today and see what happens.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

MACA MACA MACA

I am trying to help people out here, spend the 30 bucks and get some MACA run it with clomid...

remember my 4 month tren run, well what is it three weeks out now and my balls and libido are back....

My gains have stuck, I did not get the clomid blues either,.,

some simple research of the herb will describe why BBs use this herb all the time.

so you feel the MACA actually helped to accentuate the clomid's effects? another words, you have done it with and without maca, and feel it is a distinct help. if it was just for the mood thing with clomid, i don't get that at all. i don't even know i am on it. but if it helps to work with the clomid, i can get the maca man at work cheap cheap cheap. LMK.

 

[nubrain]

maca info

Health Benefits of Maca

Metabolism

Maca reputedly increases Energy levels in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) patients.
Maca reputedly increases Energy levels (according to traditional use by native Peruvians).
Maca reputedly alleviates Fatigue (according to traditional use by native Peruvians).

Maca reputedly improves Stamina (according to traditional use by native Peruvians).

Nervous System

Maca reputedly improves Alertness (according to traditional use by native Peruvians).
Maca improves the body’s ability to handle Stress (by enhancing the function of the Hypothalamus-Pituitary Axis). research

Sexual System

Maca reputedly alleviates Female Infertility (according to traditional use by native Peruvians). research
Maca alleviates the symptoms of Female Menopause (according to anecdotal reports). research
Maca alleviates Male Impotence. research

Maca reputedly alleviates Male Menopause (according to traditional use by native Peruvians).
Maca reputedly alleviates Male Infertility (according to traditional use by native Peruvians). research
Maca facilitates the growth of the Seminiferous Tubules. research

Maca increases Sexual Desire. research
Maca improves Sexual Performance. peer-reviewed research

Maca Enhances the Function of these Substances

Hormones

Maca is claimed to increase Testosterone levels. research

Maca Contains these Substances research

Alkaloids: Macaina 1 Macaina 2
Macaina 3 Macaina 4
Amino Acids: Aspartic Acid Glutamic Acid

 

[Spectre]

I don't think clomid did anything for me (non responder), I need to try this! Thanks HI

 

[Elapid]

Seems to cheap and safe not to use-thanks for the tip...btw, is this a popular supplement with BBs?

 

[GOD_HERCULES]

rubbish

Maca doesn't do shit for hormonal levels.


1: Asian J Androl 2001 Dec;3(4):301-3 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut


Lepidium meyenii (Maca) improved semen parameters in adult men.

Gonzales GF, Cordova A, Gonzales C, Chung A, Vega K, Villena A.

Department of Physiological Sciences, Faculty of Sciences and Philosophy and Instituto de Investigaciones de la Altura, Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredia, Lima, Peru. [email protected]

AIM: The present study was designed to determine the effect of a 4-month oral treatment with tablets of Lepidium meyenii (Maca) on seminal analysis in nine adult normal men aged 24-44 years old. METHODS: Nine men received tablets of Maca (1500 or 3000 mg/day) for 4 months. Seminal analysis was performed according to guidelines of the World Health Organization (WHO). Serum luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), prolactin (PRL), testosterone (T) and estradiol (E2) were measured before and after treatment. RESULTS: Treatment with Maca resulted in increased seminal volume, sperm count per ejaculum, motile sperm count, and sperm motility. Serum hormone levels were not modified with Maca treatment. Increase of sperm count was not related to dose of Maca. CONCLUSION: Maca improved sperm production and sperm motility by mechanisms not related to LH, FSH, PRL, T and E2.

PMID: 11753476 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[Japanese machine]

Re: rubbish

Maca doesn't do shit for hormonal levels.


1: Asian J Androl 2001 Dec;3(4):301-3 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut


Lepidium meyenii (Maca) improved semen parameters in adult men.

Gonzales GF, Cordova A, Gonzales C, Chung A, Vega K, Villena A.

Department of Physiological Sciences, Faculty of Sciences and Philosophy and Instituto de Investigaciones de la Altura, Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredia, Lima, Peru. [email protected]

AIM: The present study was designed to determine the effect of a 4-month oral treatment with tablets of Lepidium meyenii (Maca) on seminal analysis in nine adult normal men aged 24-44 years old. METHODS: Nine men received tablets of Maca (1500 or 3000 mg/day) for 4 months. Seminal analysis was performed according to guidelines of the World Health Organization (WHO). Serum luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), prolactin (PRL), testosterone (T) and estradiol (E2) were measured before and after treatment. RESULTS: Treatment with Maca resulted in increased seminal volume, sperm count per ejaculum, motile sperm count, and sperm motility. Serum hormone levels were not modified with Maca treatment. Increase of sperm count was not related to dose of Maca. CONCLUSION: Maca improved sperm production and sperm motility by mechanisms not related to LH, FSH, PRL, T and E2.

PMID: 11753476 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

So its just a temporary boost, not a natural stimulator?

 

[GOD_HERCULES]

It seems that maca has a direct effect on your balls. Probarly by improving blood flow to your balls making them temporarely bigger.

 

[Addicted]

Empty stomach or with food??

I know some herbs are better absorbed on an empty stomach. I'm gonna stack it with clomid/trib/liquidex and stinging nettle.

 

[Mysterio]

Yeah Hi, I want to get some maca for my up and coming cycle of tren, EQ, and test enanthate soon. Also, Hi did you notince or get any signs of prostgyno?(Spelled wrong) I read on another board that vitex is good for pervention.

 

[getgo]

At what dose would you recommend taking MACA ?

 

[onemoosehorn]

Thanks, I am going to give it a shot.

 

[SOLID]

did anyone read that study? Basically it says it doesn't do shit for hormone levels.


.CONCLUSION: Maca improved sperm production and sperm motility by mechanisms not related to LH, FSH, PRL, T and E2.


...so why the hell do you still want to use it?

 

[HighIntensity]

did anyone read that study? Basically it says it doesn't do shit for hormone levels.


.CONCLUSION: Maca improved sperm production and sperm motility by mechanisms not related to LH, FSH, PRL, T and E2.


...so why the hell do you still want to use it?

do you always believe everything people say...if so I got a bridge you may want to buy,.

I don't give a fuck what this study says, I am liveing proof and so are millions of africans who have used maca for years...

plus a 200 percent increase in sperm daily is what I need after a long cycle

 

[GoinDeep]

I just happened to read this thread, and I'm glad I did. Cycle ended may 18th and I still am not back to where I was as far as sex drive and my boys hanging. This is long after clomid and HCG therapy. So I figured I'd try the Maca (I had some left over from some sups I bought), this was two days ago and I must say my sex drive is noticeably stronger. I don't notice a change in the hangage though. I'm drinking a coffee w/Ginseng and Maca right now (I've been doing the Ginseng/coffee alone for a while w/minimal results). So you can chalk me up on the ya side.
And a big Thanks to HI, if I could or knew how to give you Karma I would.

 

[spentagn]

do you always believe everything people say...

No. That is why people are questioning what you say.

I don't give a fuck what this study says, I am liveing proof and so are millions of africans who have used maca for years...

You spoke with these Africans? How do you know millions of them have used maca for years? Did you read it somewhere?

Point being (since I know I'll have to clarify this one for you), if it "works" for you, fine. But why should anyone on the internet of all places take your advice over documented medical studies? Especially after you point out that one shouldn't always believe everything people say.

plus a 200 percent increase in sperm daily is what I need after a long cycle

 

[Silent Method]

One study posted here concluded that maca does not affect hormone levels. Hardly conclusive proof. It may, it may not. This does not mean that it cannot have a positive effect on the body's natural mechanisms of hormone restoration.

 

[clubhead]

what is the recommended dosage of this maca coming off a cycle and running clomid...is 1 gram a day enough??

 

[HighIntensity]

No. That is why people are questioning what you say.



You spoke with these Africans? How do you know millions of them have used maca for years? Did you read it somewhere?

Point being (since I know I'll have to clarify this one for you), if it "works" for you, fine. But why should anyone on the internet of all places take your advice over documented medical studies? Especially after you point out that one shouldn't always believe everything people say.

hey don't use it, I could care less...

 

[HighIntensity]

oh and spentagn wasn't it you who said I was surely going to crash after my cycle? And yet a month out I am stronger and bigger


GOT MACA


try try try again

 

[Lumberg]

do you always believe everything people say...if so I got a bridge you may want to buy,.

I don't give a fuck what this study says, I am liveing proof and so are millions of africans who have used maca for years...

plus a 200 percent increase in sperm daily is what I need after a long cycle

Lol if I were looking at a bridge that some guy on an internet forum said was a great bridge, but then I read a scientific report by engineers stating that the bridge was not safe, I would not buy the bridge.

No offense but you are discrediting yourself here HI-- "do you always believe everything people say" not when presented the way you present it.

That said not everything you say is bunk--the hair inhibitor shit works.

JC

 

[Torch]

oh and spentagn wasn't it you who said I was surely going to crash after my cycle? And yet a month out I am stronger and bigger


GOT MACA


try try try again

arent you on dbol too?

 

[HighIntensity]

Lol if I were looking at a bridge that some guy on an internet forum said was a great bridge, but then I read a scientific report by engineers stating that the bridge was not safe, I would not buy the bridge.

No offense but you are discrediting yourself here HI-- "do you always believe everything people say" not when presented the way you present it.

That said not everything you say is bunk--the hair inhibitor shit works.

JC

for 30 bucks Id say invest in the maca, it's not like I own the company...just trying to help here, hey after a long expensive cycle and the fact that your nuts are important why not give it a shot...

 

[Lumberg]

for 30 bucks Id say invest in the maca, it's not like I own the company...just trying to help here, hey after a long expensive cycle and the fact that your nuts are important why not give it a shot...

if all it does is make your balls grow and make you produce more sperm why not just get HCG?

 

[clubhead]

i may be willing to try this....i just want to know in what dosages combined with clomid please....

what worked for you???

 

[HighIntensity]

I used 3 grams a day for a month

and to answer about HCG for 5000 ius of HCG the black market cost is 29 bucks (around) that gives you 5 shots....

cost effective is why to use maca, plus no fear of gyno

 

[Spartacus]

I thought Maca was from south america..so whats with this shit about all these africans using it?..anyhow,I bought a pound of this for 40$ from www.pennherb.com stuff was fresh,but I can't really comment on its efficacy

 

[SOLID]

do you always believe everything people say...


UM, NO, BUT I TEND TO BELIEVE A SCIENTIFIC STUDY MORE THAN RANDOM INFORMATION PASSED OVER THE INTERNET.

if so I got a bridge you may want to buy,.

COME ON BRO...DON'T YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO SELL ME?

I don't give a fuck what this study says, I am liveing proof and so are millions of africans who have used maca for years...

COOL.

plus a 200 percent increase in sperm daily is what I need after a long cycle...

YOU PLANNING ON GETTING SOMEONE PREGNANT?

 

[mvmaxx]

shot.gif

...so why the hell do you still want to use it?

...to blow huge loads!

 

[HighIntensity]

god some of you are like 5 year old children,

you don't want to use maca then don't, it's as simple as that...this is just some information posted for educational purposes that may help a fellow lifter, seems on this thread Maca has already helped a few...

stop crying all the time, your worse then 60 year old women

 

[spentagn]

arent you on dbol too?

question still stands.

 

[celica]

go to www.tribestan.com they are the best

 

[HighIntensity]

question still stands.

no, took my last 5mg dbol in the am last sat. lifted yesterday still stronger then when on tren

 

[ChillyDog]

I've used Beyond a Century MACA and it was amazing. Everything HI is saying about MACA is true. Its cheap so you might as well try it out.

 

[spentagn]

no, took my last 5mg dbol in the am last sat. lifted yesterday still stronger then when on tren

so you still did end with dbol.

whatever the case, glad maca worked for you.

 

[projection]

Ive heard of other people using this post-cycle so thought I would try it. Just ordered it this week will be ending cycle next week and will be running it with clomid, liquidex, DHEA, glutamine, and creatine. Hopefully I'll keep my gains from this long test enanthate and 10 week fina cycle. Keep you posted with results, even though Ive not been shut down this whole time on fina Im one of those that gets extra horny on it.

Also read that the gelatinized version of the root is the most effective.

got my maca from http://www.macasource.com/


This from macasource:


In Phase I clinical trials conducted in August 2001 by Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredio in Peru, the subjects taking a derivative of the Peruvian Andes herb "maca" called gelatinized maca reported


increase sexual desire:
180%
increase sperm count:
200%


A summary of the clinical trial results can be found by clicking here.


The process of gelatinization of the maca root was developed by
Universidad Agraria la Molina in Lima, Peru.

Gelatinization is a proprietary extrusion method which separates much of the non-nutrient starch component of the plant from the active alkaloids and sterols.

The result is a concentrated and entirely different product.





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Maca & Deceptive Advertisers


The gelatinized maca extruded and purified by Universidad Agraria la Molina is distributed worldwide under the brand name MacaSource®, except for Peru where it is distributed under the brand name MacaSol®.

Since the clinical trials in August, the demand for maca has increased substantially, and continues to increase from word of mouth, magazine articles, and press releases. However, many people remain unaware of the distinction between gelatinized maca, an extracted alkaloid concentrate, and just "maca", a cousin to the turnip. This confusion has been exploited by herb suppliers who jumped on the maca bandwagon with nothing more than dried and granulated whole maca root in their capsules.

The fact of the matter is, ungelatinized maca is made up of mostly starch, like a potato. There has never been a scientifically accepted study that has shown an increase in sexual desire or sperm count from taking ungelatinized maca root.

 

[SOLID]

god some of you are like 5 year old children,

you don't want to use maca then don't, it's as simple as that...this is just some information posted for educational purposes that may help a fellow lifter, seems on this thread Maca has already helped a few...

stop crying all the time, your worse then 60 year old women

 

[XCYTER]

god some of you are like 5 year old children,

you don't want to use maca then don't, it's as simple as that...this is just some information posted for educational purposes that may help a fellow lifter, seems on this thread Maca has already helped a few...

stop crying all the time, your worse then 60 year old women

Im going to at least try it HI. Screw all the naysayers...at least your here in a POSITIVE way tryin' to help out fellow bro's.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Thanks for the passalong HI...I'm always open to experimentation if feedback is positive.I may toss this into the next recovery regimen.

 

[Richierich]

should you start at the same time as the clomid, also when should you through in the vitex?

 

[GOD_HERCULES]

Recovery is all about getting your hormones in balance. Maca doesn't do that. That's a fact. I don't understand why people are so eager to try all kinds of shit in hope finding a miracle product. If maca had a advantage over medicine now, doctors would prescribe maca to their patients instead of proviron and/or HCG and/or clomid.

 

[fallenangel]

Recovery is all about getting your hormones in balance. Maca doesn't do that. That's a fact. I don't understand why people are so eager to try all kinds of shit in hope finding a miracle product. If maca had a advantage over medicine now, doctors would prescribe maca to their patients instead of proviron and/or HCG and/or clomid.

yeah but doctors normally only prescribe clomid to women and there is from reading this no evidence that maca would have the same effect on women as clomid does on them. Although i do agree that a lot of whats written about herbal medication is bullshit can't comment on maca though coz i havn't used

 

[projection]

Recovery is all about getting your hormones in balance. Maca doesn't do that. That's a fact. I don't understand why people are so eager to try all kinds of shit in hope finding a miracle product. If maca had a advantage over medicine now, doctors would prescribe maca to their patients instead of proviron and/or HCG and/or clomid.

again this is from macasource and Im not trying to sell the product or have any vested interest in it, however this is from a Dr. and states that maca root does normalize hormone levels:


Chicago physician Gary F. Gordon, former President of the American College for Advancement in Medicine, knows first hand the value of Maca. "We all hear rumors about various products like Maca," he says. "But using this Peruvian root myself, I personally experienced a significant improvement in erectile tissue response.


Dr. Gordon explains that Maca works by normalizing our steroid hormones like testosterone, progesterone, and estrogen. Therefore it has the facility to forestall the hormonal changes of aging. It acts on men to restore them to a healthy functional status in which they experience a more active libido." Lots of men and women who previously believed their sexual problems were psychological are now clearly going to look for something physiological to improve quality of life in the area of sexuality" says Dr. Gordon. "In other words, I believe that people who engage in sex twice a week or more live longer. I've found sexual activity to be a reliable marker for overall aging."

 

[quartermile]

Super royal maca for men has all the ingredients needed for recovery and on cycle. Get it from iHerb. It has dim, zinc, vit b6, selenium. And use that with normal royal maca. By the way its a 4:1 concentrate. Awesome stuff.

 

[quartermile]

Hi Guys,
I use a maca brand called Royal maca. There are a few types. The super royal maca for men is 4:1 maca with 200mg of dim per 2 caps. It also has B6, Selenium, Zinc. And there is just the normal 4:1 maca and u get double the capsules. So i use 2-4 maca for men and then i use the normal maca 4-6. Another product is dim. But you need the absorbable one which is Bioresponse dim 150 as it is biodynamic and breaksdowns correctly. Sepia tincture removes estrogen aswell, and progesterone cream, from supplement spot on the home boys inhibits estrogen and creates testosterone and corisol. If you lower cortisol you will tank.
So Maca blocks Estrogen, and creates testosterone and cortisol, and balances, Dim metabolises estrogen, Sepia removes estrogen, and progesterone creates balance and creates testosterone and inhibits estrogen and stops your adrenals from tanking.

Best.