bran987 said:Taser CEO Rick Smith did not mince words in his response to the error. "This latest story, including its egregious mathematical error and horrendous analogies to blatantly lethal electrical sources written by USA Today, is an affront to science and an insult to Taser International employees and the hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers and military personnel who develop and deploy Taser technology with the goal of saving lives."
Not to be a mouthpiece, but I think Mr. Smith has a point.
the pain and fright associated with being tased can easily stimulate a sympathetic nervous response capable of ultimately interrupting heart rhythm, via direct neuronal stimulation or adrenergic stimulation some short time later.redguru said:Bran, we were taught in the navy that it requires >65 milliamperes of current to actually interrupt human heart rhythm. So a taser doesn't even provide half that much current. Kinda blows that Taser is dangerous theory right out of the water.
Getting shot with a 9mm would more than likely be worse.GoldenDelicious said:the pain and fright associated with being tased can easily stimulate a sympathetic nervous response capable of ultimately interrupting heart rhythm, via direct neuronal stimulation or adrenergic stimulation some short time later.
then we have to think about people who are unusually sensitive to the application of external current, either through simple genomic variance, or an underlying condition - which we are wont to do since everybody in the country is exposed to the risk of being tased - with the conclusion again being that the incident current applied by the taser cannot be excluded as a potential precipitant to a cardiac event when used in its designated demographic.
kinda blows your navy training theory right out of the water.
GoldenDelicious said:the pain and fright associated with being tased can easily stimulate a sympathetic nervous response capable of ultimately interrupting heart rhythm, via direct neuronal stimulation or adrenergic stimulation some short time later.
then we have to think about people who are unusually sensitive to the application of external current, either through simple genomic variance, or an underlying condition - which we are wont to do since everybody in the country is exposed to the risk of being tased - with the conclusion again being that the incident current applied by the taser cannot be excluded as a potential precipitant to a cardiac event when used in its designated demographic.
kinda blows your navy training theory right out of the water.
Scotsman said:If you read the law it states that it is a crime to willfully refuse to obey a direct and lawful order from a peace officer.
Cheers,
Scotsman
youre right. people with some sort of underlying, undetected and perhaps undetectable cardiac condition SHOULD NOT, under ANY circumstance, put themselves in a position where they may be tased...the most common position being, of course, united states citizenship.redguru said:Sounds like Darwinism at its best. Anyone who is in that kind of physical condition shouldn't be placing themselves in a situation where they are being tazed. Now, please tell me what is the difference between cannot be excluded and is responsible for? It can't be excluded that hydrogen oxide is the world's most dangerous chemical compound, either.
redguru said:Sounds like Darwinism at its best. Anyone who is in that kind of physical condition shouldn't be placing themselves in a situation where they are being tazed. Now, please tell me what is the difference between cannot be excluded and is responsible for? It can't be excluded that hydrogen oxide is the world's most dangerous chemical compound, either.
well believe it, on your way over to drop off a sammich and a coffee. white with one. thankshotzie said:i cant believe this thread is still goin
GoldenDelicious said:youre right. people with some sort of underlying, undetected and perhaps undetectable cardiac condition SHOULD NOT, under ANY circumstance, put themselves in a position where they may be tased...the most common position being, of course, disobeying the lawful order of a peace officer.
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