Vasopro and Guaifenesin

[Smokescreen]

Vasopro has Ephedrine and Guaifenesin. What exactly is Guaifensein? All I know so far about this stuff is that it is a mild muscle relaxer. Is that true? If so how can that benefit me if I'm trying to use Vasopro in a ECY stack? Wouldn't that make me less energetic and take away my abilities to lift really heavy at the gym? What other sides come from this stuff? Remember this stuff has 200mgs of the Guaifenesin per tab. If I take it 3 times a day that's a total of 600mg's per day. Wouldn't that much Guaifenesin be bad?

 

[thate]

Vasopro has Ephedrine and Guaifenesin. What exactly is Guaifensein? All I know so far about this stuff is that it is a mild muscle relaxer. Is that true? If so how can that benefit me if I'm trying to use Vasopro in a ECY stack? Wouldn't that make me less energetic and take away my abilities to lift really heavy at the gym? What other sides come from this stuff? Remember this stuff has 200mgs of the Guaifenesin per tab. If I take it 3 times a day that's a total of 600mg's per day. Wouldn't that much Guaifenesin be bad?

I asked this before and the only answer I received was 'you won't have to worry about getting a runny nose while you are taking it.' Take that as you will.

 

[Smokescreen]

Shit! that doesn't help much in my search for the answer does it? LOL

 

[GoldenDelicious]

from memory guafenesin is an expectorant. its used when a person has sticky chest mucous and you want to increase the amount of mucous made so that the resulting mucous is thinner, less sticky, and can be coughed up

how much do you intend to take?

 

[Smokescreen]

Well, I want to take 3 Vasopros a day. That's 25mgs of Ephedrine a day. But each tab also has 200mgs of this Guaf crap!!!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

guaifenesin is an expectorant. It is also a muscle relaxant, anaeasthetic, and adrenergic blocker.
if it can be avoided, which it can, it should be.

kaizen and several other canadian companies sell pure 8mg tabs as does dnepharmaceuticals which carries 25mg pure ephedrine tabs (they do require ID verification and will not ship to several states inclduing california)

 

[GoldenDelicious]

doses of three and a half grams per day have been used with no significant sides. do what you will.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

for those wishing to further research guaifenesin, searches under methocarbamol a longer acting version ( by virtue of the addition of an di-carbamate molecule which extends its half life). will be fruitful and enlightening.

due to grandfathering there is little fda data on guaifenesin, also the fact that it is short acting and patent expired are likely large factors. methocarbamol took its place, essentially.

 

[thate]

guaifenesin is an expectorant. It is also a muscle relaxant, anaeasthetic, and adrenergic blocker.
if it can be avoided, which it can, it should be.

kaizen and several other canadian companies sell pure 8mg tabs as does dnepharmaceuticals which carries 25mg pure ephedrine tabs (they do require ID verification and will not ship to several states inclduing california)

macro do you have a complete listing of which states it can be delivered to?

 

[rpol]

guaifenesin is an expectorant. It is also a muscle relaxant, anaeasthetic, and adrenergic blocker.
if it can be avoided, which it can, it should be.

kaizen and several other canadian companies sell pure 8mg tabs as does dnepharmaceuticals which carries 25mg pure ephedrine tabs (they do require ID verification and will not ship to several states inclduing california)

PM me a listing if you could bro

 

[thate]

macro do you have a complete listing of which states it can be delivered to?

Or if you could just tell me if Ohio, Indiana, or Alabama are legal thx.

 

[OMEGA]

muscle relaxant?!!?

that NOT good

 

[OMEGA]

bump..

 

[swordfish151]

hmm...and im on this stuff now.

 

[BigCracker]

Ephedrine w Guafenisin is bunk shit. I know of a place you can get single ingredient ephedrine hcl that will ship to any state-but you risk customs seizure,etc. PM me for a link and/or details.

 

[vitamix]

The Guafenisin can make you (makes me) cough till I puke. They typically give it to you in cough syurp as a snot release so you can get the stuff out of your lungs. But if you take it with ephidrine, caffiene and the rest of the kitchen sink you can run the risk of puking pretty bad. There is a plus side thoug, all the coughing can actually bring out some pretty wicked vascularity in the neck and tighten up the abs. Enjoy.

 

[emptywallet]

I used to get the stuff by the case load from bulk nutrition. I noticed it did make me feel kinda strange beyond the usual Eph feelings. So, I ordered the bolt w/o the gauf in it from DNE. Carth, try them. The only thing you have to send them is a fax of your D.I and some other form of something that has your address on it. I used my car registration. Lots of people here have done it with no problems, and you only have to do it the first time.

 

[MTS]

I think its a legal thing...by sticking that ingredent in there they can claim it isnt supossed to be used as a weight loss supplement and it's only supossed to be used as a bronchodilator

 

[Mr. Laredo]

CArth,

If you are looking for Ephedra dont get Vasopro (cheap HCL)

Go for the old Stacker 3, Lipodrene, or Stimerex ES. All containing 25mg of pure Ephedra per cap. Email me if you need help obtaining these. The Ephedra ban has been temporarily lifted for now.

 

[asianlover]

guaifenesin is use to thin mucas and is commonly used in decongestants. it makes the mucas easier to get out.

 

[Mavafanculo]

they suppossedly added it to supp's as part of some sort of early industry compromise to try to placate the FDA/DEA and avoid the ephedrine ban (suppossedly the reason the DEA was pushing for the ban was that pure ephedrine can be processed to make meth. the added guifennesin makes this difficult or impossible). might be urban myth.

the negative is exactly as you say - while you still get the thermogenic effect of the ephedrine , the energy kick is gone.

 

[swordfish151]

I've been on Vasapro now for a while, but i cant say that i dont get the energy kicks...sometimes i have to lift at night and i take it after 5pm and im wide awake at 11pm! So i cant knock it...its been working for me for fat loss and energy.

 

[BigCracker]

they suppossedly added it to supp's as part of some sort of early industry compromise to try to placate the FDA/DEA and avoid the ephedrine ban (suppossedly the reason the DEA was pushing for the ban was that pure ephedrine can be processed to make meth. the added guifennesin makes this difficult or impossible). might be urban myth.

the negative is exactly as you say - while you still get the thermogenic effect of the ephedrine , the energy kick is gone.

All the added Guafenisin does is add one extra, somewhat time consuming- step to the meth making process-ephedrine extraction. Selling ephedrine w/ guafenisin in blister packs is also another way to slow down the meth cooking process. Imagine how long it would take to push out a couple thousand pills from blisters compared to just dumping a bottle of 1000 tabs into your pot of chemical soup.

And I don't think supps like stacker 2 that have Ephedra Alkaloids are the same as Ephedrine. I'm not sure what the difference is-but pure Ephedrine hcl packs a way bigger punch-especially when used with caffeine and aspirin.

Also DNE will not give out 411 as to which states will accept single ingredient Ephedrine for delivery. They'll try to pawn of the guafenisin shit as the same thing-which is bullshit. The states that do allow single ingredient ephedrine will only ship to the addy on your driver's license-which I'm sure is also submitted to the DEA. Most likely it's no big deal-until of course the feds need an excuse to search your crib.

 

[AAP]

Ok, I have 3 questions that need answering :

1 - What ratio of E/C/Y (or ECA) do you take. How much E, how much C, and how much Y or A in EACH DOSE. I am assuming you dose 3x daily.

2 - Where to get ephera legally now? any kind. Stackers, or whatever. I don't think the old Twinlab brand is available anymore.

3 - how big is your penis. And don't lie.

You can PM me if necessary. And if the answer to #3 is 'Large', please attach a photo. And fast.

 

[tokebloke]

I take 80mg ephedrine hcl/200mg caffiene and 12mg of yohimbine hcl. I only dose 1x a day now.....used to do three but said fuck it. Only upon waking now.

 

[OMEGA]

Ok, I have 3 questions that need answering :

1 - What ratio of E/C/Y (or ECA) do you take. How much E, how much C, and how much Y or A in EACH DOSE. I am assuming you dose 3x daily.

2 - Where to get ephera legally now? any kind. Stackers, or whatever. I don't think the old Twinlab brand is available anymore.

3 - how big is your penis. And don't lie.

You can PM me if necessary. And if the answer to #3 is 'Large', please attach a photo. And fast.

1) Ephedrine 25 mgs 2-3 times daily, Caffeine 200-300 mgs 2-3 time daily, Yohimbe Hcl 2.5 mgs 2-3 times daily

2) DNE in canada

3) dont be an asshole

 

[AAP]

3) dont be an asshole

Shouldn't you be making a poll about who is going to do #3 for me?


(thanks for the info)

 

[stealth]

Can someone clue me in on where it locate DNE?

 

[BigCracker]

I take 80mg ephedrine hcl/200mg caffiene and 12mg of yohimbine hcl. I only dose 1x a day now.....used to do three but said fuck it. Only upon waking now.

80 mgs of ephedrine might send a 1st time user to the ER in a increased heart rate panic attack. Try 25 mgs ephedrine, 100 mgs caffeine and an aspirin for starts.

I can get ephedrine w/ guaf at any AM/PM Mini Mart-Broncheze 32 count blisters of 25 mg pills for $6.

My cock is 2 inches...from the ground.

 

[Themachine01]

All the added Guafenisin does is add one extra, somewhat time consuming- step to the meth making process-ephedrine extraction. Selling ephedrine w/ guafenisin in blister packs is also another way to slow down the meth cooking process. Imagine how long it would take to push out a couple thousand pills from blisters compared to just dumping a bottle of 1000 tabs into your pot of chemical soup.

And I don't think supps like stacker 2 that have Ephedra Alkaloids are the same as Ephedrine. I'm not sure what the difference is-but pure Ephedrine hcl packs a way bigger punch-especially when used with caffeine and aspirin.

Also DNE will not give out 411 as to which states will accept single ingredient Ephedrine for delivery. They'll try to pawn of the guafenisin shit as the same thing-which is bullshit. The states that do allow single ingredient ephedrine will only ship to the addy on your driver's license-which I'm sure is also submitted to the DEA. Most likely it's no big deal-until of course the feds need an excuse to search your crib.

This is the correct answer to the question. It is simply an ingredient put in the tabs to prevent them from being used to make meth, thats it. I love people that say that it takes the affects away from the ephedrine because it doesnt, I have taken both forms, pure ephedrine HCL from DNE and also the tabs with the guaf and noticed the same great results while cutting.

 

[BigDog97]

Guaifenesin is decongestant. It is used to clear your lungs and notrils of snot, mucus and flem. I have tried taking Vasopro and experienced extreme increases in energy. The guaifenesen should not effect the energy levels you get from the ephedrine. At least it worked for me. I took 2 tabs and 1 more tab an hour later and felt like I was on speed because it gave me so much energy. AS far as Im concerned Vasopro is a great energy booster but I dont know how well it works for fat loss.
BIGDOG