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bruce410 said:
valium is a bit more addictive than other benzo's such as klonopin, i would reccomend switching to klon's they stay in your blood longer and don't have the withdrawals that valium does, even xanax is better though klonopin is the best. my dog dbbt and i are in the same boat, my doc wants me to start tapering off too. anger is an addiction imo, and if you truly need something to help contain that so you can live happily as i did, the pills are not an addiction unless you are not even attempting to get by without them. good luck bro, and to answer your question it makes no difference with your gear, my doctor knows everything i do and its all good. i take part of my dose in the mornings and workout before the rest, and i have no problems in the gym nor has it effected my blood work after cycles.

They're all pretty equally addicting. A benzo is a benzo anyway you cut it. Klonopin just releases itself long. Like a steroid with a long ester.
 
hammercurls said:
hey guys i been on valium for about 2 years straight and was about to do a cycle. would it be dangerous to introduce gear to my valium regimen? i use valium about 4 times a week.






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Doesn't sound like you're "physically" addicted to it if you take it 4 times a week. What kind of dosages are you taking? I used Klonopin for my social anxiety for about 4 years. It defenitely helps. You have to watch it though. Because they can get pretty addicting. You shouldn't take it to help you sleep because this could easily lead to an addiction.
 
being on anything for 2 years straight is abuse, not use. sounds like u convinced yourself u cannot live or sleep without them. try to ease off at least for a short period oif time and see how u feel. u may really need them though. only u really know. 2 years ago i became addicted to xanax while on first cycle of tren. like u i started it to keep me mellow since the tren had me alittle crazy. then i got used to them and it became part of my everday life. i'm glad i kicked that shit.
 
hammercurls said:
it keeps my anger in check and lets me loosen up for social occasions. i dont drink or do other drugs. valium has been a god send
I use valium right before my workouts.
It kind of keeps me in the mood to continue working out for long amounts of time.
I usually pop 2-3 tabs just before i work out.
At my gym this is quite common.
I once read Lee Lambrada (sp?) used to inject 10-20mg before his workouts.
 
hanibal said:
being on anything for 2 years straight is abuse, not use. sounds like u convinced yourself u cannot live or sleep without them. try to ease off at least for a short period oif time and see how u feel. u may really need them though. only u really know. 2 years ago i became addicted to xanax while on first cycle of tren. like u i started it to keep me mellow since the tren had me alittle crazy. then i got used to them and it became part of my everday life. i'm glad i kicked that shit.
sorry bro i disagree. if a doctor thinks it best for a patient to remain on a med its not addiction. healthy sleep is very important if he can't sleep without it or function properly he needs to continue it. 4 times a week means he is taking it when he has to. ive taken all the pills you can name, none of them are tough to ween off of. painkillers are an addiction, try coming off those its the worst thing i ever went through in my life.
 
ill get off them as soon as i need to, but for now there not going anywhere. especially with my cycle coming up i want it to go as smooth as possible.
 
I've been on doctor-prrescribed klonopin for insomnia/anxiety for the past 5 years. This drug has been a godsend for me. I would like to wean off of it someday, but if my life starts falling apart due to lack of sleep, I'm not gonna be stupid about resisting taking it. I don't think anyone wants to be addicted to this type of medication, but lack of sleep can F your life up in so many other ways that sometimes it's the choice between the lesser of 2 evils.

DBBT: How much klonopin are you taking? I've been at .75mg for about 2 years and was at 1mg for the previous 3.

Sonny
 
biggs001 said:
I use valium right before my workouts.
It kind of keeps me in the mood to continue working out for long amounts of time.
I usually pop 2-3 tabs just before i work out.
At my gym this is quite common.
I once read Lee Lambrada (sp?) used to inject 10-20mg before his workouts.

joking right?
 
hammercurls said:
hey guys i been on valium for about 2 years straight and was about to do a cycle. would it be dangerous to introduce gear to my valium regimen? i use valium about 4 times a week.

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hammercurls said:
it keeps my anger in check and lets me loosen up for social occasions. i dont drink or do other drugs. valium has been a god send


what you're saying is you're using valium as a rec drug, right? loosen up/social occasions etc...
 
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