using gear whilst doing martial arts

[Superbabe]

If you an artist you would not post such a stupid thread. If you aspire greatness in an art the shortcut will never be the way as, many know, the art is of self and not of short cuts.
So, you can use all the shit you want but you will not achieve mastery of anything untill you go beyond trying to be better than everybody else through anything, including steroids.
Examples required? Ghandi, Bhodidhama, Jet Li, Master Tank....what more do you want?

 

[Super Girl 22]

If you an artist you would not post such a stupid thread. If you aspire greatness in an art the shortcut will never be the way as, many know, the art is of self and not of short cuts.
So, you can use all the shit you want but you will not achieve mastery of anything untill you go beyond trying to be better than everybody else through anything, including steroids.
Examples required? Ghandi, Bhodidhama, Jet Li, Master Tank....what more do you want?

good answer! use your head daniel-son

 

[dirty]

alright grasshoppers, I agree.The truely great martial artists would not poison their systems with the likes of AAS, how ever there are a shit load of athletes out there practicing sports such as kickboxing etc that are using AAS.
My question was directed at any of those out there that are into the fighting sports, to find out what gear they may use.
Superbabe, I don't think my thread was that stupid????
I only used Deca for a short period of time as I found that I was getting to bloated to train properly(as well as getting gyno from it).I sloshed everytime I kicked from the amount of water I was holding.
I have found that the winny has helped dramatically with the strength and speed of my technique.
any one else out there got a suggestion?

 

[Thaibox]

Superbabe, his post wasn't stupid. I've trained in the arts since age 7, and believe that I have a very virtuous attitude with respect to them. But, I now am training in NHB competition and use gear. I began using deca because my knee is a peice of shit. I am a bodybuilder as well as a fighter, and all the cardio I do taxes on my lean mass greatly. What is wrong with taking mild cycles to progress in multiple sports that would not be possible without?

For those of you who think that using juice somehow contaminates your spirit, as you are drinking that beer, think about it objectively and you will probably reconsider.

Dirty, to respond to your question, the cycle that most helped my training was a cycle with winny in it. It keeps my strength and aggression up, and it may just be a placebo effect, but it seems to increase my stamina a little as well.

 

[Thaibox]

Oh, and by the way, Bruce Lee(whom I respect and honor greatly) did in fact use juice and recreational drugs as well. Linda and Dan Inosanto attributed his noticable weight loss and health problems to the use of drugs(not juice). Also, for those who said the masters did not juice, (Jet Li is not a master) did they live and fight in contemporary society? If they did, would they have used?

Anyway, thats not what dirty asked...Good luck with your training dirty

 

[dirty]

thanx Thaibox,
I knew that there must have been someone else out there who trained and used gear

 

[LeviathanX]

As a martial artist who has been training in traditional Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan since age 5 (I'm now 21), I would suggest avoiding steriods.

Martial arts teaches you to respect your body, and steriods is a means of destroying your body in the long-run. Sure, if you are a competitor it may give you a physical edge as a young and healthy athlete, but the long-term repercusions of using gear outweight its usefulness.

Remember, martial arts is 80% mental, and 20% physical. If you focus more on staying in control in a match, and learning to read your opponent, you will win more than you ever will with some added steriods.

On a side note, although Bruce Lee did a lot to bring martial arts into the public eye, he is by far not the ideal representative of the martial arts. In fact, he essentially betrayed his master, Yip Man, by leaving him and starting his own martial art. Honor is very important in the martial arts, and you should always respect those that have taught you and carry on their legacy. That doesn't mean you have to be stagnant in your growth in the martial arts, but it means you should continue to train under your original master as long as you can. In fact, Bruce Lee left Yip Man relatively early in his training.

He was also concerned with fame more than personal growth. The true martial artist seeks only personal growth, but I've yet to find someone (aside from monks) that has been able to achieve this. Still, I've met many masters that are better role models than Bruce Lee ever was.

 

[Draggon]

Thaibox,
How do you know Dan Inosanto? And where do you train.

 

[Thaibox]

I unfortunately don't know him personally, outside of brief meetings at seminars and such. I train in California.

 

[Bar Room Hero]

An effective AS for martial artists would be anavar. It increases strength and hardness while not putting on much mass. It is expensive though. Winstrol would also be good. Stop bashing the guy for asking about this. To be competetive in the fighting sports at the top level, AS are almost expected. Despite what you've heard, being strong is a big help in martial arts or any competetive sport. Technique can only take you so far. As long as the AS doesn't affect your flexibility, it would be a good thing.