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US needs to stop supporting Israel

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MattTheSkywalker said:
As to Palestinians:

When the Palestinians turned to their eighbors, they were killed wholesale. When they turned to Jordan's King Hussein, and said "give us land for a state". he slaughtered 30,000 of them. when Palestinains appraoched Syria, President Hafez Assad treated them the exact same way. So much for the Islamic brotherhood etc.

Are you kidding me?? King Hussein yes killed them, but the Syrians came to the aid of the palestinians they didnt treat them the same way, that was idiotic by King Hussein that is why the Arabs had Isolated him till his death,,, but its not how you described it at all and it wasnt 30,000 it was less than 20,000

After the war, the Jordan-based Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) continued to attack Israel, threatening to depose the king if he interfered.

Finally, Hussein had had enough. In September 1970 -- the month Palestinian radicals would come to call Black September -- the 34-year-old monarch ordered his army to drive the PLO out of the country. Syrian troops came to the aid of the Palestinians, while Israeli soldiers massed across the border.

When the fighting finally ended, the Palestinian radicals had lost. And although Hussein remained popular at home, the Arab world largely isolated him throughout most of the 1970s.



Dont forget Jordan is 50% + Palestinian, and the queen of Jordan is Palestinian, King Hussein did a bad thing, and arabs hate him for that.
 
supernav said:
Okay, let's use an example:

Two babies are born tomorrow. One a jew in Israel. One a muslim in the west bank.

They BOTH want to one day by President of Israel and do everything they can to achieve it.

Now who SERIOUSLY do you think has a better chance, or even a chance AT ALL?

There you go. Equal Rights and Democracy my butt. The muslim kid probably couldn't even get himself into a university or israeli administration let alone President. The chances of seeing a muslim President in Israel are about 1 in 50 billion.

The government is always supposed to be "WE THE PEOPLE". I'd *LOVE* to see the ethnic makeup of the Israeli government. Care to spill those numbers please if u can?

nav




Its not at all like America, the land of unbounded opportunity. You can be a Cabinet member here....if you are worth $100 million.
 
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supernav said:
Yep. Well IMAGINE if you will, if EVERYONE in the White House was Christian.

That's why i'd like to see the ethnic/racial makeup of the Israeli administration.

-= nav =-

The word Christian means different things to almost everyone. So what would happen if the White House was Christian? They would quit watching pornos? Oh, I doubt that.
 
jews control the media and there are some very powerful jewish lobbiests down in washington
 
SSAlexSS said:



One of the biggest reasons Arabs hate USA, is USA unconditional support of Israel.

USA supplies Israel with weapons, weapons that Israelis use to kill innocent arabs. When palestinians die, they die using OUR weapons, that WE supplied.


Look USA has done more killing than all Arabs combined.





The Arabs and especially Arabs Muslim are not able to admit their own problems. They blaimed the Mongols!
They blaimed the Ottoman (turks)
blaimed the British and the west
and when the US became a US power they blaimed the US!!!!!!!

After the Iranian revolution and Khomeino said US is the GREAT SATAN
then the US was the number one ennemy.

But the US is not white as snow hell no!
If the american public be aware of what really happen outthere in this world you would be killing your leaders and big companies!:(


But in some years, when the Middle East will be look down because the west will have another source of energy!
Support for Israel will be gone, believe me, of course the lobbies in the states will be enormous. I know many IDF soldiers, and hell they are asshole that believe they are the centre of this world!!!

I WISH ONE DAMN THEY FINALLY MEET REAL ARMIES!!!!!!!
 
Good post 3vandoo

didn't think I was going to come back to relive this post...I listen closely to people I know who have spent time in these countries...my stepdad has some strongpoints of view. Given that he spent most of his almost 30 years in the military in this region doing a job not many would understand I take his words to heart


As for those poor poor palistianians...As he would say Screw em...the Arabs dont care about them and neither do their own leaders
 
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"RIGHT-wing opponents of Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon seized top positions Monday following a ballot of the ruling Likud party for parliamentary candidates.


The results of the poll among the 2,500 members of the Likud's central committee showed that opponents of the very concept of a Palestinian state had taken the top 10 positions.


Backers of the hawkish Benjamin Netanyahu, the foreign minister, who lost the leadership ballot to Mr Sharon last month, also did well.


Mr Sharon backs the establishment of a small demilitarised Palestinian state, after a lengthy peace process. This notion now appears to have little support among the Likud electorate.


In the run-up to a general election set for January 28, the Likud's central committee is now heavily weighted towards hawks opposed to any Palestinian state.


Meanwhile, Israeli troops yesterday shot dead a 28-year-old mentally handicapped Palestinian at a military checkpoint on the West Bank.


The army said soldiers opened fire when the man refused an order to halt and started running.


(Daily Telegraph, London and agencies)



Inigo Gilmore in Jerusalem" - today's news - British newspaper
 
SolidRock said:



How fucking dumb can a person be, do you know why we give SAUDI money??? for damn OIL, we dont give it to them for FREE,

do you know why we give EGYPT MONEY, MAINLY to stay PEACEFUL with ISRAEL. so dont bring up that bullshit.

We give money to Israel basically FOR NOTHING!!!!!11

Almdhad Moors your calling them terroists now??? give me a damn break, are you telling me every invasion done by muslims in the history of this planet is terrorism, THIS WAS 1100 for godsakes, THIS IS HOW THINGS WERE DONE BACK THEN.

The conventional "terrorism" that we have come to know STARTED WITH THE CREATION OF ISRAEL;.

We actually give Saudi $4BILLION for free. The government doesn't buy too much oil - it's typically privately bought. Saudi gets a shitload of government money.

Egypt and Israel both get money as part of a treaty arrangement. Israel gets additional money but it must be used to purchase weapons from American defense contractors If anything this is a subsidy for American corporations.

If you don't know about the Almohad Moors then do me a favor and look it up. The Pyrenees mountains had cutr off the Iberain Peninsula from the remainder of Europe, which the CAtholci Church had kept in teh dark ages. As such, society flourished there. Jews, Christians and Muslims all lived together, even used the same buildings as houses of worship.

The arrival of the Almohads marke the end of this peace. Like I said, if you don't know what you;re talking about, look it up.
 
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