US needs to stop supporting Israel

[OMEGA]

the breach of hate can be sealed with love,
if it happenned to me, it can happen to us all.............
on both sides on, every side, we are all children of the universe, some indeed smarter then others, some more logical then others, but all children of this cosmos.
if we see things this way, are petty differences, and deep ones will seem insignifigant.
hand in hand shoulder to shoulder humanity can move together forward, but only in love

 

[SolidRock]

Funny how extremist jews throw the "racist card" if a person attacks the policies of Israel, a perfect example of that is on this thread, IF A PERSON HATES ISRAEL DOESNT MEAN THEY HATE JEWS, I HATE ISRAEL cause they are NAZIS but I have jewish friends.

 

[BigRedCat]

The breach of hate can be sealed by love? Holy shit, are from this century? It would be nice if that was true on a world wide level but it is not. That's a fact. Extremist muslims are filled with HATE for us. It will never change. It never has and never will.

How can the Jews be Nazis? Seems contradictary to me.

 

[SolidRock]

How can the Jews be Nazis? Seems contradictary to me.

Nazi like, Israeli soldiers and Israeli policies are Nazi like....

 

[SolidRock]

People need to realize there's TWO entities

Al Qaeda which are plain murderers and terrorists

and

Arabs fighting for their own land and rights and freedoms (palestinians).

I think we are all unanimous in hating Al Qaeda. If there was a US group that went over and started killing mulsims and afghans and trying to scare the PLO. Technically we will condone it, but underneath it we would be like "Yeah! kill our enemy!". That's how Arabs think of Al Qaeda. They don't like suicide bombers, but if it's fighting for it's cause, so be it.

I hate Al Qaeda, but I DO understand why Arabs and Mulsims would hate us. That's because we support THEIR enemy. Can you blame them. If i saw a poor palestinian tomorrow who has no future, no job, no skills, can't go out past 10pm, can't migrate or vacation in any country (cuz no one would dare allow a palestinian muslim to enter theri country, think about it), and has all his freedoms taken away by Isreali Soldiers armed with American machine guns --- yes i would apologize to him. For he's an *innocent* person who has done no wrong except be born in that land. And it's unjust for MY government to stick it's head into it and try to OPRESS him for no reason except that he's not a *jew*.

Funny, in America we ALL act as americans. Black, White, etc. But in THAT area -- it's either jews or arabs. And the Isreali government THEMSELVES distinguish betwene the two. That whole area is racist and proud of it. If America acted like Israeli and patrolled predominately black areas with tanks, and stopped every middle eastern guy in a car, and never allowed certain types of people to go past certain boundaries -- how would u feel?

Well, that's EXACTLY how life is like there in the gaza/west bank areas of Israel.

These young muslim youths grow up with nothing to look forward to, can never be CEO's of their hot technology company, can never go to NYC and enroll in university, can never hope to buy a corvette, can never vacation in hawaii -- yet see lucky jewish kids 20 miles north who can do all that. That disgust and hatred and compassion for the cause only grows from that towards the rich jews. And yes, that's where that "rich jews who control everyhting" stereotype came from. It's how muslim in Israel talk about the native jews.

Don't believe me? I DARE you to move to the West Bank, Change your name to a muslim name, and start speaking arabic instead of jewish. Now TRY and lead the same type of life you do here. Try to accomplish whatever goals you set in life. Now you will see where the roadblocks start coming. We in America are VERY VERY lucky to have our democracy and our rights. People FORGET how important and wonderful they are.

-= nav =-

excellent response.

 

[SolidRock]

Re: Study your Bible....

By covenant with God, the Children of Israel are God's chosen people. When fully obedient to the covenant, they are undefeatable. When in transgression, they are subject to judgment.


God's promise that those that bless Israel will be blessed and those that curse Israel will be cursed still holds true today. Think Hitler would have lost WWII if he targeted some other ethnic group or nation? There's a truckload of evidence showing the spiritual factors that went on with that man.

The world (for the most part) will turn on Israel. When they face what seems like certain destruction is when Jesus will return and defeat all that oppose Israel. They will behold Him and realize that He really was and is their messiah.

Most orthodox Jews dont agree with the UN creating Israel they beilve the Messiah is supposed to come down and create the nation of Israel. Orthodox Jews dont like Israel.

Do you have anything that proves that "God's promise that those that bless Israel will be blessed and those that curse Israel will be cursed" I dont belive it to be true.

Even Muslims belive that Jesus is coming back, and spread the world of Islam and defeat all opposition to Islam. And if jews accept Jesus as the messiah they are not jews but christians.

 

[big_bad_buff]

i would say there is a higher power watching over Israel. there are a few books about things that happend durring this war. testimonies of seeing supernatural things, (angels)

THE SIX-DAY WAR

In May, 1967, Egyptian and Syrian troops massed on Israel's borders, Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, and Egyptian President Gamel Abdal Nasser filled the airwaves with calls to drive the Jews into the sea. The mood in the 19-year-old-country of Israel was bleak. Facing five well-equipped, Soviet trained Arab armies, Israel's defeat was virtually a foregone conclusion. The black humor on everyone's lips that Spring was: "The last one out, don't forget to turn off the lights."

Everyone knows that instead of defeat, Israel achieved a stunning victory. On June 5 at 7:46 AM, Israeli planes destroyed the entire Egyptian air force on the ground. In six days, Israel tripled its territory, gaining the Sinai Peninsula, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and -- most precious of all -- the Old City and the Temple Mount.

The crucial strategy of destroying the Egyptian air force while their planes were still on the ground opened the way for the Israeli victory. The success of the maneuver is generally attributed to the Israeli planes flying below the tracking altitude of Egyptian radar. Many other factors, however, contributed to the success of the air strike and the subsequent battles. In fact, the coincidences and unlikely happenings at precisely the right time were so plentiful that, as we learn the details of the victory, the bulge in the curtain almost knocks us over.

For example, a few days before the war, the Commander of Egyptian forces in the Sinai was ordered to change commanders in most of his brigades, putting in charge officers who didn't know the terrain or their forces.

On the very morning of June 5th, three hours before the Israeli air strike, Egyptian intelligence did in fact issue a warning that an Israeli air attack would begin "within minutes." At that point, Egypt still had time to get its planes off the ground and save them. The message reached the command bunker in Cairo. An aide-de-camp signed a copy, but no one bothered to look for the Commander in Chief.

On the same morning of the attack, Egyptian officers stationed at the radar station in northern Jordan picked up the scrambling Israeli aircraft, and sent a red alert message to Cairo. The sergeant in the decoding room of the supreme command tried to decipher the message using the previous day's code and failed.

And where was Egypt's Commander in Chief? The night before, he and most of his top officers attended a party at an air force base in the northern delta area, at which a renowned belly dancer performed. Early the next morning, he took off for the Sinai, where he had ordered all his top commanders to assemble in order to meet a high-level Iraqi delegation. When the Israeli strike happened, not one senior officer was at his post.

 

[big_bad_buff]

the re-establishment of the state of Israel. The original Israel disappeared from the globe hundreds of years ago. In 1948 a new state of Israel was established. The regathering of Jews to Israel is a clear sign, in both the Old and New Testaments, that our age is just about over. Jesus said, "Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled" (Luke 21:24). On June 6, 1967, the Jews, for the first time since Jerusalem was captured by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C., took over control of the entire city of Jerusalem, thus signaling the approaching end of Gentile world power.

 

[Silent Method]

Do you guys know WHY Iraq doesn't possess nuclear weapons... because of Isreal's superior forsight in 1981. Incase ant of you historians don't know what I'm talking about... I'll clue you in: In 1981, an Isreali F-16 bombed an Iraqi nuclear reactor the day the construtcion of it was complete.

Guess who sold and trained them to use the F-16?? Just an observation...

 

[big_bad_buff]

Jeremiah 46:28, the prophet says that God will never allow the Jews to be completely destroyed and that God will completely destroy all of the nations to which the Jews have been scattered. Many Christian scholars view this as an End Time prophecy, which will take place in the future, when the world is destroyed, except for the Holy Land. But part of this prophecy is being fulfilled already - despite the attempts of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans and Nazis to destroy the Jews, the Jews are still with us and Israel again is a sovereign nation. But the empires of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans and Nazis have been destroyed.