U.S. ranks 25th in life expectancy while we pay the MOST for health care

[mrplunkey]

You must be speaking about yourself.

Since Obamacare is mostly just forcing people to buy health insurance, I don't see how it compares with European single-payer plans in which all medical commerce is transacted through tax money.

Your lies make Baby Jesus cry.

Just like the lies that Obama's regulatory madness is killing American business, when Obama's administration has been slashing regulations in every field except health and banking/finance.

Obama Office Alters More Federal Rules Than Bush : NPR

Here's a great moment for a reality check:

True of False: Obama has broadened the reach and increased the power of the NLRB (an executive branch regulatory agency) during his tenure in office.

That's neither health or banking/finance.

Let's see if you can face reality.

 

[javaguru]

I think the point here is that our system isn't so great and should be changed. Per capita, we pay twice as much as some of those countries with better results. 18% of GDP is what we spend. We could model a system similar to some European countries and pay closer to 9%. And, more people would be covered and our overall results (such as life expectancy) would likely improve.

Making cross cultural comparisons isn't a good metric...

For example, Asians have very positive health outcomes but as soon as they immigrate they have the same outcomes as the average American; It's a lifestyle issue and not a treatment issue.

 

[kx250rider]

Another point: We already have federal and state and local free medical care, and it doesn't work. If you walk into any emergency room; Beverly Hills or the poorest place in Alabama, you will be seen, with or without ID, and with or without insurance or a checkbook. The hospitals are going bankrupt on a daily basis because of this, and the exact same thing would happen the current free(loader) system is replaced with a shiny new copy called Obamacare. I will beat this drum 'til I die: Get rid of fake malpractice suits and the crooked lawyers who do them, and we'll all be able to see the doctor for $30, get meds for $10, and get surgery for $500. And if you are working but can't budget for that, and not paying 60% taxes, you have a personal discipline problem and don't deserve medical care.

Charles

 

[Mr. dB]

I will beat this drum 'til I die: Get rid of fake malpractice suits and the crooked lawyers who do them, and we'll all be able to see the doctor for $30, get meds for $10, and get surgery for $500. And if you are working but can't budget for that, and not paying 60% taxes, you have a personal discipline problem and don't deserve medical care.

And then when you catch flesh-eating virus while you're at the hospital, or some noob intern cuts off your baby son's penis in a botched circumcision, you'll just laugh it off instead of suing?

 

[TableFun]

Send ur kids to me. I make penises beautiful!

 

[Mr. dB]

Send ur kids to me. I make penises beautiful!

Impossible. They're ugly enough as is, but adding a nasty scar and exposing the part that should be covered by a comfy sheath of skin is hardly an improvement.

All penises are ugly. Except for mine, of course, which is a work of art.

 

[mrplunkey]

Here's a great moment for a reality check:

True of False: Obama has broadened the reach and increased the power of the NLRB (an executive branch regulatory agency) during his tenure in office.

That's neither health or banking/finance.

Let's see if you can face reality.

Nice to see Db's reality check working out so nicely.

I'll check back later.

 

[mrplunkey]

Making cross cultural comparisons isn't a good metric...

For example, Asians have very positive health outcomes but as soon as they immigrate they have the same outcomes as the average American; It's a lifestyle issue and not a treatment issue.

No way! Comparing health care costs between populations with 3% obesity and those with 30% obesity is fun and easy!

 

[Mr. dB]

Nice to see Db's reality check working out so nicely.

I'll check back later.

Provide the link if you expect me to do your homework.

 

[mrplunkey]

Provide the link if you expect me to do your homework.

C'mon redsam, don't dodge the issue.

You claimed Barry has been "slashing regulation in every field" except health care and banking/finance.

I offered-up the NLRB as evidence that your statement was untrue.

So how connected to reality are you? Do you agree your original statement was mistaken?