tren, eq, test cyp amounts for cycle

[cydex01]

tren + Nolva = Bad idea (since Nolva would increase prolactin levels which cause gyno and lactation) use AIFM instead

For a begenner I don't recommend you do tren running the test/EQ is more than enough

Personally I don't subscribe to the idea of nolva causing gyno after running a steroid that raises progesterone levels. I've ran tren on 3 seperate occasions and deca upwards of 1gram a week and I run nolva in EVERY pct I use and I've not once had this issue.

Although, I do agree that he will probably gain very well off the testosterone alone; but if he's already bought the anabolics and has a cycle planned out, you can bet he's going to use them. At least he can use them correctly and post cycle correctly as well.

 

[cydex01]

Also, you may want to check out this post if you haven't already:

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

It's basicly what I've already told you in my PCT post, it's what I've followed and learned from when I started 2 years back; but it'll explain things in greater detail.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Jenetic is awesome, I wish he posted here more often.

I disagree with the use of Nolva with either deca or Tren as well. I'd rather use a straight AI instead of nolva to reduce chances or increasing PgR. While Nolva may never aggravate PgR for some, for others,it may be an important factor to consider. I view it much like the many users over the years that say they never needed to use an Anti-E or AI because the never received gyno signs the first 5 years with prior use (bragging or down playing these compounds), then all of the sudden, they receive gyno symptoms and wish they would have used something all along.

I wonder if Jenetic would change his mind now with Nolva + Tren/Nandrolone use together, if he were to read about the possible upregulation of PgR. When he was posting here a year or two ago, it wasn't really a factor involved at the time.

BMJ

 

[AhMadKooL]

Jenetic is awesome, I wish he posted here more often.

I disagree with the use of Nolva with either deca or Tren as well. I'd rather use a straight AI instead of nolva to reduce chances or increasing PgR. While Nolva may never aggravate PgR for some, for others,it may be an important factor to consider. I view it much like the many users over the years that say they never needed to use an Anti-E or AI because the never received gyno signs the first 5 years with prior use (bragging or down playing these compounds), then all of the sudden, they receive gyno symptoms and wish they would have used something all along.

I wonder if Jenetic would change his mind now with Nolva + Tren/Nandrolone use together, if he were to read about the possible upregulation of PgR. When he was posting here a year or two ago, it wasn't really a factor involved at the time.


BMJ

Well said ..........

 

[milo hobgoblin]

is there a good benefit to running the tren in the beginning of the cycle rather than the end like i am doing?

LOL ya your sex life.

Do the tren up front.. with the EQ.. maybe till week 10. taper off with the enan... its probably the easiest on your HPTLA .. small amounts of HCG during the last few weeks of your taper...

BTW after all that Clomid is gonna make you a moody emotional bitch...

Man I hated tren.. the older you are the harder it is on you.. guys in their ealry 20's can get away with getting stupid with tren dosages.. but in your mid to late thirties.. its starts fucking with you more.

That shit almost cost me two relationships.

 

[sammysobig]

Now, run it 400mg for 10 weeks.

Thanks for the information, looking forward to a great first cycle.

 

[solidspine]

400mg e or c per week

For 10 weeks

But not both.