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hammerstorm

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I never in my life planned on doing a log for a cycle but when looking for information on other cycle logs always got dead end threads and bum information so decided to make one for my tren-e, test-e cycle im currently running. Will update weekly on lifts and gains and that sorta shit. This isnt going to be layed out the best as I suck at this shit.

Im 5'10", 95kgs and around 10% bodyfat and from Australia.
This is my third cycle, first was test-e only and second was deca and test-e.
Both went smooth as not any horrible sides, kept nearly everything months after PCT.
Currently i'm 9 days into tren-e 300mgs and test-e 500mgs weekly. Have arminidex and caber on hand and will use them if the time comes.

Shit is already going mental. Im up 3kgs on the scales in 9 days and have already started to see strength increases. Ive never reacted this quickly to an ethanate before. Just got back from chest day before cycle was stuck on 130kgs for 2 reps for ages, just hit it for 4 with ease.

The only side ive had so far is insane itching. Ive read as much as i can about it but noone really has a definitive answer. Some say liver damage but ive seen numerous bloods from sufferers proving this theory wrong. Most say it goes away after a week or two. Ive had it for a few days now and it seems to come on when i start sweating and goes away after about 5 minutes and doesnt come again for the rest of the day. Then will happen again the next morning.

Other than that theres not too much more i can say. Ill update with more information as it happens.
 
Everything I have read on multiple forums about tren shows several things to do to minimize sides.
1) Keep test low about 150mg a week
2) If you are worried about hair use nizerol shampoo
3) Take 25mcg of cytomel daily and caber daily this will stop the hormone imbalance that tren causes in some people. Its that hormone imbalance that causes the mental mood issues.
4) heavy sweating comes from eating lots of carbs
 
Yea from my personal experience I found ten higher than test is much easier to manage ! Just going off how my body reacted
 
Yeah mad I'm going to try both ways eventually just thought I'd start with what I know best for now. If all goes well my next cycle some time next year I'll try low test high tren. The itching went away only last 3 or 4 days. Have been having mild anxiety attacks for the last day or so but nothing I didn't expect as I've been dealing with it my whole life. Going to see the doctor this afternoon to get it all sorted. Other than that I'm really liking it.
 
Did chest and tri's today. Every exercise got a PB and Weight is sitting at 99kg. Started getting the insomnia through the week. It's not like normal insomnia though you just lay down and it starts getting harder to breath especially when you lay on your back and it keeps you up all night. I had to take meds to get me to sleep the last few days because I wouldn't be able to do my job on no sleep. But it's the weekend now so I'm gonna tough it out and not take anything. Just had a nap for an hour or so and it was fine. Besides that tho I'm not getting many sides so far. The anxiety is gone pretty much no pimples or oily the skin or anger just slamming the misso a lot more than usual
 
hammerstorm said:
PS anyone with advice on the insomnia with experience would be much appreciated!
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Lmao!! It sucks dude

Honestly I hate to say it but when I was on tren I tried everything

Finally had to got he route I did not wanna go and get my dr to give me some sleeping meds


It helped 100% but I hate putting unnecessary shit in my body.


Plus sleeping pills in my book are no good

But there was no way I was not taking tren and I had to sleep
 
Stackinplates said:
Lmao!! It sucks dude

Honestly I hate to say it but when I was on tren I tried everything

Finally had to got he route I did not wanna go and get my dr to give me some sleeping meds


It helped 100% but I hate putting unnecessary shit in my body.


Plus sleeping pills in my book are no good

But there was no way I was not taking tren and I had to sleep
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Hahahaha yeah mate I'm in the same boat.
I've been prescribed seroquel for my anxiety in a low dose and it got rid of the anxiety within a day or two but the tablets also knock you out so I've been taking them to get some sleep. I hate becoming dependant on things but there's not much else I can do. I need to sleep to grow and to work. I'm going to try an OTC bronchodilator because it's my airways being restricted when I lie down that is really fucking with me. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
Cool keep me posted

As far as tren it has that affect with breathing
My cardio was horrible

I could have counted carrying my gym bag up the stairs as my hiit training !!!😒😳
 
I got an albuterol inhaler yesterday morning. It didn't really do much it just gave the feeling of breathing fresh air for about 30 mins still had the heavy breathing. Ended up having to go to the hospital really late last night had a huge anxiety attack thought I was dieing haha. My blood pressure was fine, my blood oxygen level was 99% and there was no sign of lung problems. I thought it was gonna end bad when I had to go to a different doctor and he prescribed me something different to what I usually have.

Does anyone from experience know of doing abit of cardio on tren helps breathing throughout the day?
 
Update time

Been on for about 2 and a half weeks now and shit is getting insane the strength is getting out of control I don't understand how its hitting so quick. Just hit chest day. Hit 140 for 3 without a spotter that's over 10kg on my bench in two and a half weeks.

Weight is still sitting at 99kg but I look visible leaner and keep getting complimented on how much bigger I look.

As for breathing i actually stumbled across a pretty good fix to it on a post. An OTC nasal spray called nasacort (telnase here in Australia) Which blocks prostaglandins to help your lungs from inflammation. If you wanna have a read just google nasacort and tren is in the first few results. It builds up in your system over time and is usually in full effect after about a week. I'm about 2 days in and already it has improved my breathing ten fold I've started doing cardio again and I'm not nearly dieing during heavy sets. So for anyone who cares suss it out, you've got nothing to lose.
 
hammerstorm said:
I got an albuterol inhaler yesterday morning. It didn't really do much it just gave the feeling of breathing fresh air for about 30 mins still had the heavy breathing. Ended up having to go to the hospital really late last night had a huge anxiety attack thought I was dieing haha. My blood pressure was fine, my blood oxygen level was 99% and there was no sign of lung problems. I thought it was gonna end bad when I had to go to a different doctor and he prescribed me something different to what I usually have.

Does anyone from experience know of doing abit of cardio on tren helps breathing throughout the day?
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All the new guys this is 100% why tren is not a beginner cycle choice

You can do all the cardio in the world and it's not gonna help your breathing that's a side effect that people get from tre!!!

If you anxiety and sides are that bad drop your dose down a little bit what does the running again?!
 
Stackinplates said:
All the new guys this is 100% why tren is not a beginner cycle choice

You can do all the cardio in the world and it's not gonna help your breathing that's a side effect that people get from tre!!!

If you anxiety and sides are that bad drop your dose down a little bit what does the running again?!
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Sorry mate I think you may have missed my last post. Everything is 100% fine. Anxiety is sorted got the appropriate help. One valium 3 days ago and I've been perfect ever since. I found a way to nearly completely fix breathing issues on tren. Have been doing HIIT and it's safe to say I'm at about 90% of where I am while not on cycle. Im 27 and the dose is 300mgs a week tren e.
 
I had seen ur other post bro 😜

But the thing is it happened and u went to the hospital !!!
It's very real that this can happen is what I'm saying and not all guys have the mental strength to push through
Sometimes theses sides are so bad guys do stupid shit wile on cycle

Plus u taking valium on cycle is not a good idea either just saying

When u cycle and start having to use all sorts of other drugs under the sun to fix the side effects from one drugs it become the long drawn out ordeal where you taking one drug to combat another drug to combat another drug and then before you know it you're putting 10 different drugs in your system just to stay level benzodiazepines are very dangerous that's what Valiums are and they have no place in bodybuilding or weightlifting I'm just giving you a little bit of personal information that I've learned over the years from personal experience and many years of research

The goal here is to be healthy take care of our bodies eat properly and do what's right not take a bunch of different pills medications to counteract this to counter that and then the end is that our livers and our bodies are worn out mess I'm not saying that you're doing that but I'm just telling you not to combat one side effect with another by taking a medication is not the proper way to do it!!

Estrogen control and compound all u need if ur body can't deal with certain compounds avoid them totally I've come to the realization that I cannot take halo and I just stay away from it it's that plain and simple...
 
Glad u got it sorted out though 👍
Had seen u just took one valium

Thought ya we're taking them on a regular basis
 
All good mate cheers for the advice! I'm hoping to not have to take any at all I took one just to help me out at the time cause it was getting pretty bad but since I've just been working on breathing exercise and green tea and that sorta shit is going really well. I've witness people become addicted to valium it's not a pretty sight haha
 
Does any one know the best pct to take after a 10 week cycle of tren acetate and test 400? Would it be just clomid I take? If so how long for? Already have nolva at the ready, just not sure clomid would be enough due to how strong tren is?
 
I always run with clomid and nolva for PCT but because tren is especially harsh I'm start some HCG In the last 4 weeks of my cycle
 
Nolva just prevents oestrogen binding, but nothing else. It is rather an on cycle drug m8. Clomid , hcg / caber maybe is what I'd use but I've been staying away from tren, 'cos cardio is a concern for me.
 
Ahaa right I see mate, probbly just stick with clomid and HCG then, mix them in same syringe and do 0.5 of tren and 1ml of test , twice a week so works out 3ml a week all together 1ml of tren and 2ml of test think the ratio is spot on there mind
 
It's been just over 3 weeks since I started my cycle. I'm now sitting at 100kg and I look abit leaner. My strength is up a fair bit on all lifts and pretty much all my sides have subsided. I was getting insomnia but it has gone away for now. Was having breathing problems for abit but since getting onto nasacort that's 100% fixed the heavy breathing. Still haven't got much endurance tho Hahahah but everything's going sweet and according to plan
 
Sounds alright then mate, I've had trouble breathing in test 400 only a little bit nothing major, but was not sure weather to stack ttm with test 400 or tren e still in two minds don't do much cardio so not fussed about that at the moment, just mKe sure with tren to always do it a lower dose then what your stacking it with, what I've been told any way
 
I've heard mixed reviews about higher test or lower test so I thought I'd just try higher first and if it went well try lower later next year to see the difference first hand. If it works out even better than this cycle I don't think I'll ever go without tren again. It's on a whole other level. I still can't get my head around an ethanate taking effect so quickly. Usually takes me 4 or so weeks so see results. I started seeing results on tren E in a week
 
Really? Yeah most say just to jump straight to tren acetate because it works quicker but am gonna start with tren e aswell, never done tren apart from one course ages ago which was tablets called m.tren by ph and they was the bollocks but harsh but yeah think tren e and test 400 could be a really good combo 👌🏻
 
well put it this way it's working so fast I'm getting new stetch marks around my delts and biceps because I'm growing too quick hahaha
 
I nearly got tren cough for the first time today. Halfway through pinning felt my lungs tightening up and got the taste everyone describes in my mouth. Was more worried about corking my leg from coughing rather than the cough itself hahah. On my first cycle I accidentally tensed my quad with a needle in it and my leg was fucked for days hahaah had a Mad limp
 
I can relate to the tren insomnia I get like that during the day rather then when I sleep I get real excited for no reason and can't stand still can also relate to the strength increasingly rapidly never had the cough or taste u talk about but I think I'm one of those who are just fortunate enough to not have crazy sides but I keep my tren doses pretty low I cruise at 100 to 150 a week depending on what cycle I'm running but I just wanted to post and say that I enjoyed following your story and congrats hope you keep growing bro....by the way I was reading all your post in my best Aussie accent lol I'm just a country boy from Tennessee lol
 
Hahaha that's mad! I've been trying to not use any slang or whatever no one would understand a thing I'm saying. The nasal spray I use to help my breathing has triamcinolone acetonide in it and holy shit it helped so much. I never had any intention of quitting the tren once the breathing problems set in, I'm too stubborn but all I kept thinking was fuckkkkk I gotta put up with this shit for another 2 months. My breathing is now at about 95% of what it is before cycle. It's made everything so much easier and a very cheap, easy and virtually risk free fix. I've even been doing some cardio and it's been going find. Only downside is I get cramps pretty quick ahah. Started on the bike today and about 3 minutes in and until the end I had cramps in both shins and my left ass cheek haha didn't though was too busy watching pawn starz
 
While we're on the topic a quick list to summarise the main ones.

Mad cunt - term of endearment
Syko - an exceptionally mad cunt
Skitz - crazy
Weak dog - someone who is shit
Hummus - something that is shit
Sweater - someone who rides someone or something's dick too hard because they idolise them/it
Crab - is a sweater but worse
Froff - when your stoked on something
Stoked - excited
Toy - someone who is shit at things
Venga buss - a mad vehicle
Staunch - a lot of meanings I guess for this one. To beat the shit out of some prick or assert dominance over someone.
Mad shit - very good
Ccccccunnnnttt - when you're about to tell the boys a story
The boys - squad
Loose cunt - drunk, prone to punching on for no reason, exceptionally skitz
 
Nothing much else to report. Sitting around 100kg still and weights still going up. Have started to get a lot of cramps but I was excepting that gonna go pick up some taurine tomorrow. Was training with some mates today and was getting cramps in my hip on the right side every set of incline dumbell press was having to have one leg full straightened out everyone was looking at me like I was fucked hahah. Oh and yeah my misso said since starting tren it sounds like I'm dieing in my sleep every night. Making fucked up noises and gargling and shit
 
Wow just had tren cough for the first time. Was pinning too quick cause I was in a rush to go watch Jurassic world. Holy shit it can get Fucked. I had it for about 10 mins. I'm going to be pinning slow as fuck from now on that sucks vomited up all the food I had just eaten I couldn't hold it down Hahahaha
 
Haha yeah was just thinking yesterday instead of jumping straight on to tren e am gonna jump on that ttm first just to get my body slowly ready for tren e because ttm has a little bit of it in therefore hopefully when I get on tren e my body will used to it from the ttm cycle
 
To be honest man don't let other people wig you out about the sides. 90% of the guys having issues are running insane cycles, like a gram of tren weekly. If your keen to try it just start off low and up it if need be. I'm not on the biggest dose but I don't plan on going any higher. The only side that has fucked with me was the anxiety but it was pre existing and tren just triggered it but was brought back under control very easy. Tren insomnia hadn't been so bad in my experience so far, you get 5 or 6 hours sleep then you start waking up every 20 mins or so it's easily bearable and it seems to subside after a few weeks. I've fixed the breathing problem too. I'm now a month in and besides having horrible cardio vascular endurance I'm fine and just go about my life as normal. As long as you do your research and use your head you'll be fine.
 
I've had a few mates that pin first ask questions later and all of them have ended in hospital visits. One was passing out and having nose bleeds daily. Didn't know what a pct was and didn't know the dangers of running orals for extended periods of time. His liver is now on the brink of dieing because of it and it took 6 months of doctors visits to get him back to health. All because the idiot didn't use google.
 
Yeah true mate, if you use it with care then can't see it been a problem and yeah I know some one now who's injecting shit loads and does not pct at all, thinks just having a few weeks off will do but that clearly would not work, yeah think I'll go for it then, just do low ml at first then mate
 
Yeah mate that's it everyone is different I have mates that get gyno on Just test E and I've never had so much as an itchy nipple on anything. I'm sure you'll be fine and make the right decisions.
 
I probably won't be updating this for awhile. There isn't much to report on. Strength and size still steadily increasing and I don't really have any sides anymore. Was getting cramps but taurine sorted that. I'm sitting at about 101kg now. I'll post again in a few weeks or if anything changes before then
 
For my new stack that I'm staring in 6 weeks, I've just bought a bottle off ttm a bottle of Oxys and a bottle of test 400, it's gonna be a bulking one, just gonna go heavy weight and eat loads, any recommendations if that would be a decent stack? Was gonna stack ttm with a 2 bottles of test 400 but then there's already test in the ttm so I think 1 bottle of test 400 would be enough test in total? Or not?
 
I'm not too sure about that kinda stuff man. I've only had experience with test e, dbol, deca and now tren e. By bottles do you mean they are all orals?
 
The test 400 and ttm are olis but the Oxys are orals, a lot to take for one course but I reckon that could be really go for strength
 
I had my first nightmare on tren last night and it sucked so bad. I was locked in a yard with my wife with no way out and she was trying to murder me. Hitting me with hammers and stabbing me. I kept trying to restrain he'd or knock her out but she was too strong I couldn't. I ended up having to stab her and she died but as she was dieing she kept staring at me saying "I'm gonna fucking kill you". Woke up crying I havnt cried in atleast 10 Years. It physically hurt my eyes to cry. Then I cuddled my misso and got a mad root. But yeah that was fucked up I've never had a nightmare that bad in my life it was so vivid and real I swear I could feel pain.
 
Ur tren must be weak as fuck ! Cuz if she was stronger that u in the dream then there was some issues

My dreams on tren are of me like beating the shit outta people on he road wile driving and ripping of limbs and shit very angry strong vivid crazy mad fighting dreams

No way any woman would be stronger than me in my dream
Or guy for that matter ( my dreams im a full blown beast ready to snap)

Guns ,blood ,and death kinda freaking dreams with death metal as the theme music playing in the background!!💉💉😝😝💪
 
What if I took Tren E and Test cypionate for a week, but I cannot stand the back pumps, would it be ok to stop using the tren and test after a week?
 
The pumps suck bad you get used to it. Just weigh the positive and the negatives. If there is too many cons and not enough pros just drop the tren and stick with test. I found taurine helped a lot with the pumps and cramps.
 
Everything is still going well. Started a new vial of tren two weeks ago and i had to get a different lab and it was dosed abit stronger had breathing and mental sides kick back in for a week or so but all good again. Sitting at about 102kgs and visibly down 2 or 3% body fat. I've only got 3 weeks left of tren so I upped the dose to 400mgs today just to use the rest of the bottle and I'm handling it well.
 
I thought my strength gains had stagnated so I thought I'd go for a 1RM on bench today. Before cycle I was pushing 140kg for 1 today hit 155 and nearly pushed the cunt through the roof. Should have tried for 160 but I was too happy with getting the lift and completely forgot to try more. Checked the footage after and I recon I could have hit 165 of i tried 155 went up so quick
 
Hahaha well tren defiantly contributed to me getting fired today at work. Was at the shop getting food and two guys in ute drove straight through a zebra crossing while I was on it so I gave them shit and they pulled over. I've boxed my whole life so I'm not worried about any sort of altercation. They both got out and started provoking me so I took my jacket off and said step up and they noticed I had abit of size about me and backed off back into their car and drove off so I thought that was it. Then they came back around giving me more shit from their car so I laughed my drink through their open window. Little did I know they were stitching me up by provoking me then filming it on their phones which they then sent to my boss. They cut it so the footage just showed me flipping up and throwing shit at them. Hahahah today hasn't been my day
 
Was on 2 bottles of test 400 stacked with anavar finished the course 2 weeks later I went on holiday for a week and just got back and realised I only have 1 bottle of clomid, will the 1 bottle do? Or do I need another?
 
I'm not sure how much is in your bottle but I generally run 50mg per day for the duration of pct and Its always been more than enough. You don't want to over do it with the clomid sometimes less is more
 
Yeah mine are 50mg tablets, been taking 1 a day you get 20 tabs in one bottle, so I think that's enough to say my course was only 2 bottles of test 4 And a bottle of anavar, think when I get in ttm I'll stack two bottles of clomid with that testo plus
 
Nearing the end of my tren cycle. Took my second last shot last night. I upped the dose to 400mg and dropped my test to 250 to get rid of some bloat. The only difference I noticed between higher test and lower test was bloat and cost so I'm just going to run with lower test next time. Everything had been running smooth no sides all gains and then last night I went to bed pretty early at around 7pm was tired as fuck from work. Work up at about 8.30 an hour and a half later with the weirdest feeling. I physically was fine I wasn't having trouble breathing or anything but I had this fucked up feeling that I was going to die for some reason I couldn't focus or concentrate on anything. Was some sort of anxiety attack but none like I had ever had before. It just came out of nowhere hadn't had any mental sides in ages then boom shit rocked me. I just popped a Valium and was sweet though.
 
Also on the job front getting fired was probably a blessing. I literally walked straight out of that into an easier job with better pay so cheers boys Hahahaha
 
Just read all the whole post now mate. Really interesting read to see how the cycle progressed. Looking forward to seeing your end results and opinions on high test low tren or vice versa. Also u mentioned at the start u had an ai and caber on hand at the start of your cycle? What week did u start incorporating them? Also did u add the hcg to the mix for the last few weeks? Always find that works a treat pre pct. What's your nolva & clomid pct doses? Sorry about all the questions, just really interested in a tren cycle myself. Probably run tren A though.
 
I'm fortunate enough to have decent genetics for AAS. The first cycle I have ever experienced any sort of sides on has been this and they were pretty mild. It triggered my anxiety which was already pre existing, had some mild breathing problems but fixed that with a nasal spray for 5 dollars and I wake up a few times a night. I have caber and an AI on hand but was only going to use if I needed to and I didn't have to use them. started HCG 3 weeks ago and pct I usually just run 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva.
 
Took my last injection today going to wait for for maybe 2 weeks for the little bit of bloat to subside and I'll have pics up. As of right now I'm weighing in at 103kg. Just going to upload a straight before and after so the changes are really recognisable
 
Just bought d Bol, ttm and 2 bottles of test 400, my mate was telling me other day that it's best to do your bottles of test first then do your bottle of ttm instead of doing one shot of test and one shot of ttm, I thought it would be better stacking? But he was saying that you get better gains if you do them separate? Any one have any idea in this way of method ??
 
markyboy107 said:
Just bought d Bol, ttm and 2 bottles of test 400, my mate was telling me other day that it's best to do your bottles of test first then do your bottle of ttm instead of doing one shot of test and one shot of ttm, I thought it would be better stacking? But he was saying that you get better gains if you do them separate? Any one have any idea in this way of method ??
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dude how about making your own thread with questions instead of hijacking someones log?
 
hammerstorm said:
Took my last injection today going to wait for for maybe 2 weeks for the little bit of bloat to subside and I'll have pics up. As of right now I'm weighing in at 103kg. Just going to upload a straight before and after so the changes are really recognisable
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good stuff brother ! i look foward to the pics.Thanks for sharing with us!
 
FUCKKKKKKKK hahah got fully out of touch and forget i had even done this log. Everything turned out sweet for anyone who was interested. PCT went awesome ended up keeping pretty much all my gains in size. Lost a tiny bit a strength few reps here and there buts that to be expected. Just finished a cut for about 12 weeks got a lil bit pudgy after my pct keeping my calories high. Back down to about 8% BF only lost a rep or two off lifts during this cut but dropped a good 5kg of fat. So yeah mad shit im running tren e again in a few weeks time again but adding in some tbol at 60mg a day for 6 weeks. I may make a log but ill most likely just forget about it again haha
 
canslopitchdude said:
Have u tried supplementing zma before bed. I take it abound half hr before crashing and it helps me get a deeper sleep
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I have tried ZMA before but didnt really notice a difference as im already an insanely deep sleeper. My misso can get in and out of bed cause a rukkus and i sleep straight through. The only thing that really messed my sleep up on cycle was when tren caused sleep apnea. I only had sleep apnea while on cycle, i could only sleep on my right side and would wake up choking a few times a night. That subsided 3 or 4 weeks after my last injection.
 
Just gonna post a quick update on my current cycle. Had some breakthroughs and my thoughts on TBOL.
Have been running tren e (500mg), test e (250mg), and tbol (60mg now up at 80mg a day). Have been on this cycle about a month now. This was going to be the make or break of tren for me.
My last cycle was successful besides a few hicups from my anxiety disorder. This time around knowing what i was in for im breezing through it without any problems what so ever.
I knew what to expect when sides kicked in had all my little tricks learnt over last cycle ready. I dont know about anyone else but tren seems to make me a better person.
I dont understand how or why. It apparently turns most people into an asshole but it just improves my attitude in nearly every way possible. I become more driven at work,
much more confident with everything i do, i always have a short fuse so thats pretty much the same and for some reason i want to marry every decent looking girl i see.
The misso is keen too cause im much more affectionate. Dont mind giving her abit of a cuddle before i fuck the shiittttt out of her hahaha. So yeah TREN is going to be my go to for any future endeavours. As for TBOL its alright i guess but the shit cost me and arm and a leg and doesnt really do that much. Its definitely real my vascularity went through the roof as soon as i started taking it and i started getting those nasty pimples on my back i always get from orals but besides the veins it doesnt seem to do much else. My dose is apparantly high enough but im just not seeing my moneys worth compared to other orals. If anyone has any good feedback on TBOL hook a brother up i like the idea of it cause i fucking hate dbol i look like a beach ball on it.

Cheeeeers cunts
 
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