Training as a boxer...

[Legion Kreinak2]

Let's say, hypothetically, I was to try and become a boxer (like, as a profession). I'm fifteen, if I started now, would it be possible? I'm 6', 165 lbs, some muscle on me already, got an entire training routine and diet planned out, gettin' heavy bag and such for X-mas to start bag training drills and such.

What type of training routine would I be lookin' at? How would I eat? Typical diet (2x BW in protein/day, 20x BW in calories to bulk, lean meats and such with healthy fats like flax) or something other?

Please, someone help me here. I'm honestly considering this. I'll work hard towards it if I can just get the anwsers to direct me correctly.

 

[Thaibox]

Fuck yeah bro!!
You are at the perfect age to begin training. There's no doubt in my mind that you could do it. Just don't let the passion die like most people do with their dreams.

Figuring that you probably aren't done growing yet, and you're 6'1", you'll have a good reach advantage, so learn how to use that.

Don't let anyone tell you that muscle will slow you down. I know you're knowledgable and been around the boards long enough to know that's crap. IMO, find yourself a good olympic/powerlifting coach and start grinding out those lifts for power and speed. Don't waste your time with curls and leg extensions. Hit the sprints, plyometrics, etc.

Unfortunately, you won't grow to your full potential because you'll be doing a shitload of cardio. But, you can lift hard, eat like a fucking madman and stay strong, powerful, and fast.

If you have any further questions about getting into the game, finding instructors, fights, etc, PM me. I'd be glad to help. Just don't forget about Thaibox when your holding that world title belt eh?

What's the diet and training routine you have planned?

 

[danielson]

i wish i started at 15

what thaibox said about the compound lifts and olympic stuff is also true....in that they are good








i also wish i was 6' 1

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Thai, as of now, I got this...

Sunday (Abs) Sets/Reps
Weighted Crunches 4x12

Monday (Chest/Calves)
Inclined Bench Press 5x5
Inclined Flies 2x8
Flat Bench Press 2x8
Standing Heel Raise 5x15

Tuesday (Cardio)
Sprints

Wednesday (Back/Shoulders)
Deadlift 5x5
Military Press 5x5
Yates' Row 2x8
Wide Grip Chin-ups 2xF
Upright Row 2x8
Shrugs 2x8

Thursday (Abs)
Weighted Crunches 3x12

Friday (Legs)
Squat 5x5
Leg Extension 3x8
Straight Leg Deadlift 2x8
Leg Curl 3x8
Standing Heel Raise 5x15

Saturday (Arms)
Curls 5x5
Closegrip Bench Press 5x5
Inclined Dumbbell Curls 2x8
Extensions 2x8
Hammer Curls 2x8
Push-ups 2x8
Wrist Curls 3x8
Reverse Wrist Curls 3x8
Grip Squeezes 3x8
Grip Holds 3x10s
'

DIET

Meal 1
3 Egg Whites
Quaker Cinnamon & Apple Oatmeal
Small box of raisins in oatmeal (1.5 oz)
8 oz. Orange Juice
Multivitamin & Minerals

Meal 2
1 Cup Maple Granola
Banana
Whey Protein Powder
8 oz. 1% Milk
1 Tbsp Flaxseed

Meal 3
2 Tbsps Natural Peanut Butter
Jelly
Whole Wheat Bread
1 Can Of Tuna

Meal 4
4 oz. chicken breast
1 Baked Potato
8 oz. 1% Milk
5 Spears Of Asparagus

Meal 5
1 Tbsp Flaxseed
Whey Protein Powder
8 oz. 1% Milk
1 Can Of Tuna
Banana

Meal 6
4 oz. chicken breast
5 Spears Of Asparagus
1 Can Of Tuna
8 oz. 1% Milk

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

So how's this sound? Should I drop the milk and OJ and fruit because fructose tends to store in the liver as fat when there are other carbs present (so Mr. X said, at least). I'm bulking now, so I'm not sure if it matters. Though, if cutting those out would help reduce fat I gain, I'd go for it. I want as minimal fat as possible.

Should I be doing no cardio ('sides bag training on tuesday)?

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

I think that heavyweight Jameel McCline didn't start until he was 25 and he is world class caliber. You've got 10 years on him.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

That's what I wanna hear! ^^ Let's do this!

 

[slinky]

Hi Legion:

You should be training as much as possible in "boxing rounds". For instance, I didn't see any rope work listed. While I do not perform any sprints, I jump rope 2-3 times a week. What I do is jump for 3-minutes and then rest for 1-minutes, and so on. I do this for 20-30 minutes.

I train on the heavy bag (I train in a boxing gym 2-3 nights a week) the same way (since there is a boxing timer in the gym). Every PM or AM, I shadow box. So, when you sprint - perform in High Intensity Intervals, aka "rounds". You can also perform intervals on a row machine.

As for weight training, recently joined up with some Oregon Strongmen and have been training with them on Fridays. We work on explosive style of lifts. Which I feel would benefit me in the boxing ring. On my regular weight training days, it's the compound movements with some added explosive lifts. Squats, deadlifts, bench and powercleans (and also good mornings and front squats). For abs, Saxon Side Bends, hanging leg raises. Heavy bag training also helps, since punching really works my obliques.
I hope this helps!

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Thaibox, any input on my routine man? Or diet? I PMed ya too, where ya' at?

 

[Thaibox]

Don't worry about fat bro. Fat has very little to do with function. Also, you're trying to be a bodybuilder and a fighter at the same time, which is difficult enough without avoiding fruit and juices. Any and all carbs will be your friends, trust me.

You're going to be living in a world of overtraining. You have some decent lifting experience so you should be getting to know your body well enough to avoid going catabolic. But, you are the only one that knows what your body can handle. For example, I know guys that can bust out 2 hours of cardio a day, six days a week, lift 4-5 days a week, and stay big. Whereas regardless of my diet, I could never hold a decent size while I was training a lot unless I wasn't natural.

If you truly want to be successful at lifting and fighting, you'll have to be dedicated as hell and sacrifice a lot. You're going to be telling your body to do two very contraditory things and neither will progress at the maximum potential because of this. Your diet, sleep, recreation, training, all have to be in sinc. Its tough bro, but if it burns bad enough inside you, then it'll come easy.

One thing that you have in your favor is age. You can punish the shit out of your body much more than I can at even 28, and still grow and progress. However, you're not superman, and if you try and be him, you can crash. You have time to learn what your body can and cannot handle. Don't be afraid to take time off and just relax if you have to, letting your body and mind(just as important) heal and recover. Learn some katas or forms to do on your days off, do some light, easy shadow boxing, go for a walk, meditate, get laid. Do anything to relax your body and find that balance.

Now that I read your posts here, I'm kinda unclear what your goals are. Do you want to bulk a little before you start training hard? do you want to start both now? or do you want to gradually increase the amount of training within your lifting? This makes a huge difference in your lifting/diet/training schedule.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Well, I was asking mainly if you think I should just try to add some size/strength FIRST, and then begin training moreso like a fighter (boxer, moreso).

I mean, I could train as a boxer now I suppose, but wouldn't be able to compete with the bigger guys as well (though I'm descent sized now).

I'm willing to sacrifice most things except friends man. As long as I can have them by my side, and have enough free time to chat with them, it's all good.

All I need is a guideline, a layout, a plan. If that's set and guaranteed to get me where I need to be, I'll follow.

Building some more foundation first sounds better, so I can optimally (and quickly) gain size and strength. I don't understand how I can know my body well enough to not go catabolic... that seems pretty intense.

Then again, as long as I get alot of protein, my muscles should "preserve" themself for the most part, so I believe.

Thanks for the response man. Merry X-mas or whatever yo ya'.

Happy holidays, all!

 

[ronin67]

You are 6' at 15 years old, so you are probably going to grow a little bit more (height anyways). For that height, you are way too light. Your best bet is to go light heavy, cruiser or best, heavy weight. I would work on getting good boxing skills right now. That means finding a good boxing gym. As far as weight training goes, you are still young so you can afford to train a little more that us older guys. Once you hit 18, and can better decide whether to bulk or not, as you will more than likely hit your natural height and weight. Your current training regimen is great for a bodybuilder, but not for a fighter. I would highly recommend that you check out Renegade Training. It is the best way for a fighter to train, boxing or any other discipline. For diet, eat more red meat, but more importantly EAT (real food, not crap which you already seem to understand) then eat some more.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

What's Renegade Training, and where exactly can I read more into it?

 

[slinky]

Legion:

Go here: www.renegadetraining.com

 

[Thaibox]

Renegade Training........

I wrote a pretty harsh opinion against this training system last night, and decided to erase it this morning, as I realized that I'm kind of an asshole when I'm tired, and on percocets. My opinion is the same, but I'll say it more respectfully this time.

Renegade Training appears to be based on basic knowledge showing no "profound" information that is anywhere near worth the ridiculous amounts of money they charge for workout programs. They remind me of a certain author that posts on Elite who hypes himself up, yet has no "breakthrough" information as he may claim. Anyone who charges that much money for simple written information in this sport is wrong.

 

[Thaibox]

Well, I was asking mainly if you think I should just try to add some size/strength FIRST, and then begin training moreso like a fighter (boxer, moreso).

---This is up to you my friend. There's a lot of variables to consider here. What weight class do you want to fight in? Do you want to fight in a class that will be primarily shorter, bigger guys, or maybe go balls out with your size and fight with no weight ceiling? You also need to consider genetics. Do you grow easy? Are you fast naturally? Strong? These will help determine what's best.

I mean, I could train as a boxer now I suppose, but wouldn't be able to compete with the bigger guys as well (though I'm descent sized now).

---You can do a lot of different training that won't sacrifice your size very much. You don't have to be doing brutal cardio sessions right now. Ease into while you grow. Develope speed with your lifts using pauses and such. WORK ON YOUR LEGS. So many fighters neglect this that its silly. If you grow powerful legs, you will have a weapon that not many fighters are willing to build. You can learn how to hit, slip, move, etc without intense cardio right now.

I'm willing to sacrifice most things except friends man. As long as I can have them by my side, and have enough free time to chat with them, it's all good.

---I'm not saying become a hermit and train on a mountain top 12 hours a day. Just don't be partying, drinking, or wasting your necessary recovery time, or training time. It sucks getting hit in the noggin when you're hung over. Go out, have fun, hang with your bros and chicks, but just don't lose sight of your goals.

All I need is a guideline, a layout, a plan. If that's set and guaranteed to get me where I need to be, I'll follow.

---Nothing will gaurantee that you get there. You will do that part. A guideline is just that, a guide. It points, you bust ass to get there. From all the advice you will get, take nothing as gospel. It doesn't matter if Ali comes and teaches you(well, maybe Ali) because you are an individual. You will differ from everyone. Listen to everyone and build your own plan.

Building some more foundation first sounds better, so I can optimally (and quickly) gain size and strength. I don't understand how I can know my body well enough to not go catabolic... that seems pretty intense.

---If you want to build a solid foundation first, then find a good lifting coach. Its the best way to go. Build your machine. Take 2 fighters of equal skill and experience and make one 5% stronger. He will begin to win. Make him 10% stronger and he will dominate. Make him 20% stronger and its no longer a competition. Blah, blah, anyway, yes...building your foundation first is a good way to start. But, build it for the purpose of fighting. Build it to be strong, quick and powerful. Don't ever look at your abs or biceps, looks don't mean a damn thing. Train for function, not aesthetics.

Then again, as long as I get alot of protein, my muscles should "preserve" themself for the most part, so I believe.

---It will take many things. Diet is foremost. The ways you train will make a huge difference.

Give me a couple days and I'll come up with a cool training plan that you may like to try. Like I said, its just my opinion, but you may find somehting useful in it. Sorry if this post didn't make good sense. I'm really tired. Gonna go fall down now.

 

[slinky]

Then I guess that all of the free information out there already on Renegade Training provided by Coach Davies hasn't helped me one bit. Hmmmm, utterly fascinating.

While I haven't spent a dime on Renegade Training books, programs, but have just read the information on various other sites that Davies contributes for, I have seen and felt results.

I came into boxing training better conditioned than many of the other boxers who had been training as part of the team alot longer than me. And I'm much older than them as well. While I firmly believe in "sports specificity" training - I know that my improved conditioning is due to many of the training protocols of RT. The fact is: I've done and am performing RT. I'm living proof that RT works. So, my word isn't opinion. It's testimony based on my personal experience.

I wouldn't lump RT into the bottom leagues of such crap as bowflex machines. I KNOW bowflex is crap.

I understand that's your opinion. I respect that. Just keep in mind that Coach Davies is always just a email away from answering ANY questions. I know this from personal experience as well.

Legion needs a plan? A workout routine outlined for boxing? Why not go to a boxing gym? Does he not live near one? Go to a boxing gym, get a trainer there. My gym is only 10-bucks a month. I get personalized training, heavy bags, two rings for training, etc. Monday through Thursdays. He's 15? Just get his ass into a boxing gym and start learning to box there.

 

[Thaibox]

Slinky, I edited my rant about RT. I respect your opinion and am glad that their system has helped you. I hope you see what I was trying to say about them and those of their type.

Legion needs a plan? A workout routine outlined for boxing? Why not go to a boxing gym?

Because the average boxer isn't aware of what power really is. This is where LK2 will have a huge advantage when he begins. To understand this, you have to seperate the body and the skills. If you are familiar with Ninjutsu, you will know that they have an entire art dedicated to the training of the body for combat called Taijutsu. They teach this first and foremost.

Look at it like racecars. The average boxer begins to learn how to race with a 4 or 6 cylinder engine and stock suspension. In a year from then, your car is a littel faster, a little better at handling. While you're wasting your time on the track with that little car, I'm in my garage working on my 800hp big block, and I'll start working on my driving skills after my car is more or less ready for it. Since LK is 15 he's got plenty of time to slap some nitrous and a supercharger on his car before he begins.

He clearly feels that he's not as big as he'd like to be. He's not small, but he's(in my opinion) not big enough to enter the ring at the weight class he would be in because of his height. Strength and power is something that way too many fighters and trainers dismiss as unecessary, believing that skill and experience are all you need. Well, these people have a right to their opinion, but they don't have the right to detract from the potential of a young impressionable fighter by neglecting one of the most powerful weapons he can have in his arsenal.

Anyway, enough blabbering. In my opinion, truly training your body for power and strength is beyond the capability of most boxing gyms I've ever seen. So, one option is to familiarize yourself with this type of training prior to starting someone else's training routine.

Who would you rather have at your back? A 180 lb boxer with three years of traditional training.....or a guy with b fold's size/power/strength with 1 year experience.

He has time to build a dangerous foundation and still incrporate some minor training before he really begins.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Thai, thank you so much for all the shit you've been helping me with man. I'm looking forward to seeing the training plan you were gonna put together for me.

 

[Thaibox]

Thats what the board is for bro. Anyway, I'm just hanging around waiting for back surgery, so I'm not doing anything. Just remember that whatever I come up with is simply my opinion on what I think would work well. I'll post it on the training board as well and see what the guys have to say about it.

If you could, post the following for me:

- Max numbers on basic lifts
- What your strengths are(are you more quick than strong?, etc)
- If you got into a fight, what would be the first thing you would do? (Left jab, right cross, kick, etc.)
- Do you have long legs or torso?
- Any injuries?
- What body parts dominate? Strong shoulders, legs. etc
- any other info that may be relevant


You're 15, 6' 165 and I assume pretty lean. Shit, when I was 17 I was 6'1" 140. Now I'm 27, 6'2" 265. I was lifting for years, but I really didn't figure it all out and become hardcore about it until maybe 4 years ago. I overtrained all the time and was doing hours of cardio a day. Going from the gym, to the dojo, to the track, to another dojo(then partied a lot).

I say this to point out that if you do things correctly now(8 years before I did), imagine where you'll be when you're my age. Damn, makes me jealous.

 

[ronin67]

People are so quick to dismiss Coach Davies, but that's why they call if "Renegade Training".

I have 20 years of martial arts experience, including kickboxing. I currently train in MMA at a school run by a former UFC heavy weight champ and another UFC light heavy fighter who was also an olympic wrestler, so I have a little experience in the fight game. Renegade training has taken my strength and conditioning to an new level ( I'm 35, and am in better shape than many younger guys). If you have never given renegade training a try, then you have no business dismissing it. To do so is foolish, as it will get you into the best shape of your life. Yeah he charges you for it (99 dollars is not that much money if you are serious about entering the ring), but he will tailor it to fit you needs/goals, and will always answer your questions via e-mail. Yes there are many hacks out there taking people's money for lame training programs, but Coach Davies is not one of them.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Yeah, and ya' know what? That's something that ANYONE can do. Anyone can pitch around advice. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have to pay for training routines or ideas. That's what these boards are for. They're all I need. Many people here can say they've made incredible gains in strength, size, and speed all from what they've learned here.

Anyway, Thai Box...

My maxes aren't too good with lifts, deads and squats could probably be higher, but I'm afraid of injuries.

Bench: 180
Squat: 150
Deads: 190
Upright Row: 65
Military Press: 85
Curls: 65
Closegrip Bench: 110

A guess on the CG Bench and such, but anyway:

My strengths would be that I'm extremely aggressive. I have a drive to beat someone down, my blood stirs insanely at the thought of hurting someone brutally. I'm a maniac like that. I won't provoke anything, I'm pretty level-headed. I usually will let the opponent make the first move, then just counter swiftly with... well, whatever works, it depends on the situation.

You'd have to break my legs to fuckin' keep me down. Basically, I won't stop no matter what. I hate giving in, so... yeah.

My legs are descent long, I'd say them and my torso are like, average length for my height (my friend is my height but has much longer legs so, yeah... he looks funny haha)

If I got in a fight, again it would depend on the situation, but probably a right hook...

No injuries, no weak body parts at all.

I have strong calves. Legs in general, actually.

 

[ronin67]

Yes you can get great information here. But why limit yourself to one site? Are you really serious about this? At 35 I'm am seriously training to enter the ring professionally in MMA, not kickboxing or boxing. That means I have to be stronger and better conditioned than guys 10-15 years younger than me. If it works for me, just imagine what it can do for you. I have plenty of lifting experience, and also train with the Oregon Strongman Club, but I will pay for Coach Davies advice in a heartbeat. It is another tool in the toolbox. I'm sure Thaibox has a great program outlined for you, but never close your eyes to other training methods. That is the best advice that I can give to a young fighter. Good luck.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Okay, can I hear an example of the advice he's given you?

And I don't understand what you pay for exactly. Is it JUST some guy to send you advice on training through e-mail? If so... that's just... god I won't even say it.

I understand you're saying to being open-minded, but if I can spend my $100 on food that'll last me a few weeks to help build muscle, and keep me healthy and well-nourished, then I'm going for that.

 

[Thaibox]

ronin67, again, if the system worked for you as it did slinky thats excellent. I just made the observation that they had nothing to share that I couldn't find from a dozen websites, books, or trainers on these boards...for free mind you. He was asking several hundred dollars for one system, thats just wrong to me.


LK2
Don't worry about your max #'s right now bro. I just asked those questions to kind of determine what you're like, how you respond to things, your natural tendancies, etc. People can recommend pre-formed training routines all day long, but in my opinion, aside from many fundamental basic training aspects, training is highly individual. What works for tall agressive guys like us, may not work for a shorter defensive guy. Anyway, your numbers are good. Dude, your still only 15, and most 15 year olds cant do a push-up without wimpering.

Its good that you have backed off for injury considerations. That way you can find a good coach and get your form down perfect, then there will be nothing to fear except bending the bars.

Anyway, I just got back from the hopsital where I had the FOURTH goddamn doctor tell me that I will never deadlift or squat again, so I'm in a pretty bad mood. I'll get back to you when I calm down a little, sorry bro.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

No problem at all man, I'm still on that li'l mental/physical vacation you recommended, to get my head straight and all, so no rush. I appreciate what you're doing for me anyone, so even if I was in a rush, I can't complain.

Just be wary of your body man. Doctors, I understand, can be ignorant when it comes to our training and liftstyles, but don't go deadlift and squat to spite him.

What exactly is the problem anyway, that you can't do these? Knee/back problems? Either way man, just be careful. No need for another fighter to be out of commission just because he/she wasn't cautious enough.

 

[slinky]

Haven't had to spend one cent to Coach Davies. I've just read up on his contributions on other sites. Also, he has provided me with advice via email at no cost. That's the great thing about Coach D. Hell, I'll even get a reply from him at 4AM. Wild. The man never sleeps.

Anyways, keep your options open. Also, my boxing gym is open to new training options. Knows the importance of strength and power; that is backed up by the "sweet science". And to fully utilize the strength and power I've obtained from weight training, I know that I need to relax in the ring (more sparring for me), relax into the punches (sparring and heavy bag training), and just deliver those punches that "pop". Thereby necessitating the need to train in a boxing gym in "addition to" weight training. I can deadlift 280 all day long, but in the end, that doesn't mean anything in the ring if I can't deliver (and occassionally take) the punches.

Just my .2 cents and I wish all luck.

 

[Happyastro]

Fight and fight.

The only advise I can give you is this.
Fight and fight as much as you can, in the ring or in the street.
Fight as many different types of people as you can, with as many different backgrounds and body types as possible.
This will expose you to your weakness and allow you to train on it, sure you have a reach advantage to shorter guys but there is always someone taller so train with that in mind too.
Also being taller on average leaves you open to several weaknesses; eg your punch rotation will take a split second longer than a guy with shorter arms, also if a guy gets in close to you your lower face is more exposed to head butts.
Your longer legs means a harder time getting up when pinned down.
The shorter guy has a better centre of gravity.
Train with weakness in mind and you will go far.

I suggest filming yourself having a fight as watching yourself on camera from the outside in will help you pin point your weaknesses.

As for gym work train to get huge, use compond movements.
Your conditioning will come mainly from fights and more fights.
Also eat like there is no tomorrow; do not worry about fat as your training will ensure that it will be minimal. (LOL it is hard to get fat when lifting and doing boxing training.)

Remember all the bag hiting and weights will do you no good; if you do not fight, try to fight at LEAST once a day.

When I was younger I used to pick fights in school or at the nightclubs; it was a good way to learn how to fight.
But being a few years older and wiser it is better to fight in the ring or with consent; brawling in the street has legal consequences and possible death.

Goodluck.

 

[Thaibox]

I usually find myself on the same wavelength as you HA, but this time I've got to disagree with the street fight theory. Although I did go through a phase of this type of training myself, I must say its a bad idea. The worst thing about it is injury potential. If you're training your body daily in several aspects, any injury will hinder your progress. Its very easy to crack an elbow on cement, break a knuckle on a jaw, or any other myraid of injuries. Not to mention the unknown of your opponent. He may have 13 friends in another corner who rush over with 7 different weapons and don't stop pounding you until you aren't moving. Then your training is completely fucked. Or if you're real lucky, it will be some shit-head littel gangbanger that saves face by shooting you in the parking lot. Not to mention the legal and moral issues this brings up.

If you want to simulate real combat, just find some willing opponents, throw on the NHB gloves and hit the mat.

 

[Happyastro]

Nods

Yeah it was part of being a teenager when I did those crazy things; I am lucky to only recieve a stab wound to the ribs.
Being in my twenties help me see the risky parts of my actions.
It was a good learning experience.
LOL I am just a boring lawyer now and getting locked up for assault will end my career too.

But as I said above a safer and better way is to spar inside the ring with consent.
Fight and fight somemore, just make sure injuries are tend to ASAP.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Heh, yeah I hear that, HA.

So, Thai, how about that training routine, eh?

 

[Happyastro]

Training

I would split my training into two phases per day.
Weights in the morning and MA at night.
I train my body parts twice a week; but it is not likely to work for you since I am a mesomorph with artificial enchancers hehe.
(I know I will get better results if I train it only once a week but I do it mainly for maintenance, I do not wish to get bigger currently 99 KG 7% bodyfat 6 foot it is my fighting weight.)

I suggest you train one body part a day for six days a week, with MA at night, for example do a 4am work out before school and go to box right after school, that leaves you time in between and on Sundays to focus on your studies.

Example each work out is usually less than 2 hours average 1 hour; gives you plenty of time for other things and lessen over training.)

Day 1 Chest (Dumbell presses; I love it uses less of triceps and focuses on chest)
Day 2 Legs and Abs (Stiff leg dead lifts for hamstrings, and Sqats for quads and calf raises for calves, with hanging leg raises with weighted straps for lower abs, medicine ball crunches with weights for upper abs; forget obliques as heavy bag work will work it alot.)
Day 3 Back (weighted backpack chinups, Rows, rear delt parallel swings; why no deadlifs? we do them for lower back/trap days)
Day 4 Shoulders (Dumbell press; again it focuses more on shoulders and less on triceps)
Day 5 Traps /lower back(Very heavy dead lifts, can alternate with cleans too.)
Day 6 arms/biceps/triceps (triceps first as pump does not get in the way since one is push the other pull both will not compromise the other.) Curls and rope pulls; close grip presses.
Day 7 rest NO weights NO MA just rest and do your studies.

MA routine.
Well I am not a boxer (thaibox/wrestler) so I will just give general points.
Do skip ropes for warm up, learn to develope a pace to it.
Use the medicine ball, toss it back and forth twisting side to side with a partner, (USE A HEAVY ONE)
Find a good coach and make sure you give him feedback on what problems you have; if he is worth anything you will develope.
Listen to him, do as he says.
Finally your natural hormones at such a young age is very potent you do not need steriods as your natural hormones will shame even the strongest steriod; train like mad now as when you hit late 20,s the magic ride is over.........

 

[naughty_nando]

good luck bro!!!!

alot of people here that have got faith in you.