To deca or not to deca: experience says yes, research says no

[cftcft]

I'm setting up my 4th cycle. I'm gonna run test E with either deca or EQ. I'm the kind of person who does their homework before embarking on anything potentially dangerous, so I've done tons of research, but as you know sometimes you run into contradictions.

Basically, my experience with deca was good, but I read and hear so much bad stuff about it that I'm conflicted as to whether to use it for my next cycle. I'm not including my PCT's below for brevity, but if it's relevant I can post them. Also, I have waited more than adequate time between each cycle, so I don't think that's a factor.

1st Cycle: 12wks
Test E 500mg/wk
Deca 400mg/wk
Dbol 25mg/day for first 2 wks

Results from first cycle were excellent. Tons of lean muscle gain, almost no bloating, no sexual problems, felt great.

2nd Cycle: 12wks
Test E 500mg/wk
EQ 500mg/wk
HGH 2.5iu/day

Results from second cycle were so-so. A tiny amount of lean muscle gain, some chest acne, other than that no problems.

3rd cycle:
Test E 10wks
Dbol 25mg/day for first 2 wks

Results from third cycle were so-so. A fair amount of lean muscle gain, no problems.

So, as you can see, I had great results with my deca cycle and I didn't experience any of the problems commonly associated with deca such as bloating or sexual side effects. I'm about to do my fourth cycle (with adequate time off) and I'm gonna run Test E with either deca or eq and a Dbol 2-wk kickstart. As I mentioned, I'm conflicted because my own personal experience with my own body is telling me to go with the deca, but tons of people I read/talk to say that EQ is the way to go and I should stay away from deca.

I'm kinda thinking, "Go with what works" and I'm sorta leaning towards deca. But I've just been bombarded with so much anti-deca warnings. Can anybody weigh in? Thanks.

 

[bonacris]

I'd say go for what works.. I had great gains from it but the cons out weighed the pros for me.. if you run proper ancillaries it can be awesome

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[dylangemelli]

I'm setting up my 4th cycle. I'm gonna run test E with either deca or EQ. I'm the kind of person who does their homework before embarking on anything potentially dangerous, so I've done tons of research, but as you know sometimes you run into contradictions.

Basically, my experience with deca was good, but I read and hear so much bad stuff about it that I'm conflicted as to whether to use it for my next cycle. I'm not including my PCT's below for brevity, but if it's relevant I can post them. Also, I have waited more than adequate time between each cycle, so I don't think that's a factor.

1st Cycle: 12wks
Test E 500mg/wk
Deca 400mg/wk
Dbol 25mg/day for first 2 wks

Results from first cycle were excellent. Tons of lean muscle gain, almost no bloating, no sexual problems, felt great.

2nd Cycle: 12wks
Test E 500mg/wk
EQ 500mg/wk
HGH 2.5iu/day

Results from second cycle were so-so. A tiny amount of lean muscle gain, some chest acne, other than that no problems.

3rd cycle:
Test E 10wks
Dbol 25mg/day for first 2 wks

Results from third cycle were so-so. A fair amount of lean muscle gain, no problems.

So, as you can see, I had great results with my deca cycle and I didn't experience any of the problems commonly associated with deca such as bloating or sexual side effects. I'm about to do my fourth cycle (with adequate time off) and I'm gonna run Test E with either deca or eq and a Dbol 2-wk kickstart. As I mentioned, I'm conflicted because my own personal experience with my own body is telling me to go with the deca, but tons of people I read/talk to say that EQ is the way to go and I should stay away from deca.

I'm kinda thinking, "Go with what works" and I'm sorta leaning towards deca. But I've just been bombarded with so much anti-deca warnings. Can anybody weigh in? Thanks.

im not a very big fan ot it but if you had success with it and did not experience any sides then you should run it again... you obviously didnt respond well to eq the last time you ran it... we all respond to things differently... there might be a consensus on some things but that doesn't make it 100%... if you had a good experience before then you probably will again...

 

[Ftsk]

Dunno wat ur stats are but the cycle with Eq wasn't long enough, Eq needs to be run 14-16 weeks @600mg a week.

 

[cftcft]

Dunno wat ur stats are but the cycle with Eq wasn't long enough, Eq needs to be run 14-16 weeks @600mg a week.

I made a typo, my EQ was run at 600mg/wk, not 500mg as I posted. However, you're right about needing to run the EQ longer. However, considering all that, what do you think about going with the deca if it seems to work well with my body?

 

[Ftsk]

I made a typo, my EQ was run at 600mg/wk, not 500mg as I posted. However, you're right about needing to run the EQ longer. However, considering all that, what do you think about going with the deca if it seems to work well with my body?

Like the other guys said if u don't get the typical sides from deca and the pros outway the cons then yeh I'd go deca again, plus it's cheaper and is like eq's bigger abusive brother haha

 

[stevesmi]

if you ran the proper ancillaries then its possible you were successful in combating progesterone issues.

deca is a very mild AAS, people confuse sides with progesterone issues. those are 2 different things. its important to understand the difference

if you want to become a deca juicehead then you should run a lot of blood tests to see how your body reacts to the female hormones it spews out. and how what you take as ancillaries works and study it.

I did this with tren and now I feel like a tren expert. i've had zero issues with it through intense study of it and a dozen blood tests, to the point when i read someone fucks up a tren cycle I get pissed that they failed to take my advice. just like someone who bakes a pie and doesn't follow the recipe and then fucks it up.. i feel the same way about it.

 

[HOV]

cftcft why dont you just take more test this time. bump it to 750mg

 

[cftcft]

cftcft why dont you just take more test this time. bump it to 750mg

That's what I'm leaning towards doing: 750mg Test E plus 400mg deca


@stevesmi, what is the most convenient way to test my blood levels while on cycle?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ run a blood test and keep on eye on your female hormones.