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This is whats WRONG with AAS usage to me

I think I have posted enough pics to earn the right to bash whoever I want.

I was 231lb and under 6% BF before I ever touched roids. If I were like this scrawny ass in the pics, and had done several cycles and GH along with it... I would certainly be over 260 now instead of 242. He ain't even over 190 yet.
 
steroids are used for improvment bottom line. we all started them because we weren't happy with out current physique or strength point. That is like saying that you must date all the blondes in the world first before you touch a brunnett. What if you just like brown hair better? who are any of you to say what I should and should not do? that is the beauty of juicing, it is a personal choice, whether right or wrong. In our world where personal choice is almost gone, everything is regulated and most people just follow the crowd I would rather see a 5'10" 160 pound guy say "F--K all of you, I can do what I want with my body, good or bad" this site is for education not "My dad can beat up your dad or my leg is bigger than my leg" you know who you can thank for being 240 at 6% bodyfat- YOUR PARENTS. don't even tell me that shit about genetics not being a factor, you know who says that-PEOPLE WITH GOOD GENETICS.
 
AAP said:
I think I have posted enough pics to earn the right to bash whoever I want.

I was 231lb and under 6% BF before I ever touched roids. If I were like this scrawny ass in the pics, and had done several cycles and GH along with it... I would certainly be over 260 now instead of 242. He ain't even over 190 yet.

I was a strapping 173 lbs. LOL
 
Thing is.... after these cycles and all this training, the little sissy still looks like shit. Now THAT is pathetic... if you use roids, at least get something out of it.

As we can see by the pics... obviously he never learned jack shit about training or diet. Which is why he STILL looks pathetic now.
 
AAP said:
I was 231lb and under 6% BF before I ever touched roids. If I were like this scrawny ass in the pics, and had done several cycles and GH along with it... I would certainly be over 260 now instead of 242. He ain't even over 190 yet.

OK, well we can see there is some animosity between you and the pic poster (XBiker I assume...) But realistically you know that most people would never even come close tho where you were naturally (even while juicing). Most guys are lucky to get to 180 @6% bf, much less 231. You got lucky (genetically speaking :) )
 
The Terminator said:


OK, well we can see there is some animosity between you and the pic poster (XBiker I assume...) But realistically you know that most people would never even come close tho where you were naturally (even while juicing). Most guys are lucky to get to 180 @6% bf, much less 231. You got lucky (genetically speaking :) )

did you miss DNIndustry's post?

By the way Genetics is one of the wost f*#king excuses ever. Its a cop out. Ive seen obese turds with terrible bloodlines become shreded despite what they had to work with. IMO The "Bad genetics Excuse" translates to "I dont have the inner strength and drive".

-DNIndustry
 
I did, and I can't say I agree with it. But genetics are in the eye of the beholder. I think a guy @200 lbs. 6% looks really good (and therefore I may think he has good genetics)...but he may strive to be 240 @6% and thus thinks he has poor lacking genetics and can not get there...
I rarely go over 190 lbs. but do I think I have poor genetics, no...I have a 27-28" waist :D
 
The genetics excuse makes me sick.

I have been the strongest guy in my school for the last several months and when ever people talk to me about how much mass and strength I gained something along the lines of “you must have good genetics” ALWAYS pops up! It is such bullshit.

I am the strongest in my school because everyone else will do one of the following:

1) They don’t eat much because they are afraid of getting fat.
2) They are not in the weight room consistently.
3) They don’t know how to push themselves.
4) Their form sucks.

All of them are either total unaware of what they are doing wrong or they just keep telling themselves “I will get serious starting [insert nonexistent date, or date that is soon to be pushed back indefinitely here]”

Bottom line is if you do not notice a significant change in your body every couple months or so you need to ask yourself if you are absolutely sure you are doing EVERYTHING you could be doing. If you really are then you might just need a new way of training.
 
Genetics definitely plays some factor (muscle bellies and tie ins can be tough to overcome). I have seen guys train their calves like madmen and still have calves that look like Olive Oil's, while I do mine twice a week (though pretty intensely), and mine look pretty damn good. Genetically gifted, yeah probably (my dad has enormous calves). I think we all know that genetics plays some role (whether you think it is a significant role or not is your own opinion...I think it plays a pretty significant role...)
 
I love it when everybody says "wow, you have great genetics" well, if they would have seen me 6 years ago when I was 170lbs, with no muscle, with 2 double chins on top of each other and layers of fat hanging over the sides of my pants, they never once said "hey! you have great genetics!" to this day, if I eat a donut, I will literally lose all my abs for at least a week, it's insane, I have like the worst genetics I could possibly imagine :) but yet, I can build my body up because of my "great genetics", it cracks me up :) It's simply amazing that the harder I work, the better my genetics get :)
 
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