The start of a new Cold War?

[billfred]

Why can't the US keep it's fucking paws off Europe? One can see that meddling here will only make things worse.

Fuck, I hate this shit.

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To answer your question quite frankly, the US does not keep its paws off of Europe because the European's don't want them too.

 

[Gambino]

Eh, not with an approval rating in the 20% ish range. He's not taking the public's interests into account, he never really did. I'm right of center, but Bush is a fucking idiot.

yeah but you can't keep flip flopping on issues everytime a new poll comes out...fdo you let the polls dictate policy or do you stick to your guns? both can be disastorous.
the public gave approval by voting for him, twice.
for better or worse

 

[Gambino]

the USSR kicked ass
the war in europe was over by the time of DDay

i dunno if i agree 100% with that, granted you are wiser than i regarding this...but don't you think the draw of man power and material defending the western front against the inevitable allied landing greatly weakened the eastern front, allowing the russians to advance and retake their soil?
seems like the germans had no problems marching thru western russia (occupation, of course, wasn't as successful) up untill moscow.
don't you think the extra man power required to guard the west could've given the germans that little push they needed to capture moscow?

 

[jnevin]

yeah but you can't keep flip flopping on issues everytime a new poll comes out...fdo you let the polls dictate policy or do you stick to your guns? both can be disastorous.
the public gave approval by voting for him, twice.
for better or worse

Doesn't make what he does right.

 

[Gambino]

i dunno if i agree 100% with that, granted you are wiser than i regarding this...but don't you think the draw of man power and material defending the western front against the inevitable allied landing greatly weakened the eastern front, allowing the russians to advance and retake their soil?
seems like the germans had no problems marching thru western russia (occupation, of course, wasn't as successful) up untill moscow.
don't you think the extra man power required to guard the west could've given the germans that little push they needed to capture moscow?

the point of my rambling being the ussr did not kick ass
they just had more peeps and the urals to protect their aramanents

 

[jestro]

the point of my rambling being the ussr did not kick ass
they just had more peeps and the urals to protect their aramanents

My point about the US is, of the major players involved, we came latest to the party, and lost the least soldiers.

 

[Gambino]

My point about the US is, of the major players involved, we came latest to the party, and lost the least soldiers.

in boots on the ground yes
but we were shipping material to the allies for the whole conflict
the usa people weren't keen on dying on euro soil, so it's no surprize we were the last to join the fray

 

[Raptorex]

Why can't the US keep it's fucking paws off Europe? One can see that meddling here will only make things worse.

Fuck, I hate this shit.

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To answer your question quite frankly, the US does not keep its paws off of Europe because the European's don't want them too.

plus their a bunch of fags who cry like lil biatches

 

[pintoca]

actually Putin pwned us all on this one. Y'all read what he said in that G8 meeting, right? nobody, I mean, NOBODY, expected that. I'm sure it took Bushie a full 2 minutes of staring at the guy to figure out what to say next.

 

[Raptorex]

actually Putin pwned us all on this one. Y'all read what he said in that G8 meeting, right? nobody, I mean, NOBODY, expected that. I'm sure it took Bushie a full 2 minutes of staring at the guy to figure out what to say next.

yeah the Russians pwned everyone; unemployment is like 90% lololololol....your hatred of the US blinds you to any facts so your position is biased and not even worth considering. Maybe you should think about the problems of your own home country and what your family did to protect it...LIKE OURS DID; THEY DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM...unlike you fags that can't fucking stand up for yourself then cry I HATE THE US...sorry but your pathetic on these issues.