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The School Massacre Could Have Been Diverted (oh the irony)

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Gun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.

By Greg Esposito
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A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
 
well, we all see how well that worked out. letting this bill die definitely kept students safer....
 
p0ink said:
well, we all see how well that worked out. letting this bill die definitely kept students safer....


Great intelligent forward thinking insight.

I couldn't ever see ANY issues EVER arise from a bunch of college kids walking around with guns on their hips. EVER.
 
p0ink said:
well, we all see how well that worked out. letting this bill die definitely kept students safer....
Guns will never be legal on college campuses. Its for the children, oh wait.....
 
KillahBee said:
Great intelligent forward thinking insight.

I couldn't ever see ANY issues EVER arise from a bunch of college kids walking around with guns on their hips. EVER.

uh, how many shootouts do you see from people who have done all the legal paperwork, had their background checks, had their finger prints taken, passed an NRA course, and have received their license?

there are 33 states that allow this, and none of them have blood running in the streets. in fact, it is the exact opposite. states that allow their citizens to be armed have a much lower violent crime rate.

what makes you think it would be any different on campus?
 
p0ink said:
uh, how many shootouts do you see from people who have done all the legal paperwork, had their background checks, had their finger prints taken, passed an NRA course, and have received their license?

there are 33 states that allow this, and none of them have blood running in the streets. in fact, it is the exact opposite. states that allow their citizens to be armed have a much lower violent crime rate.

what makes you think it would be any different on campus?


One question (and I really don't know the answer, but if the answer is what I hope it is than you just PWNED yourself): Did the shooter in the Va Tech incident have the paper work and all that good stuff?
 
Although I agree with guns & carry permits, I have to disagree with having guns on campus. College kids do stupid things, have crazy parties, drink excessively, and have too many emotions concerning relationships to be stable enough for firearms.
 
KillahBee said:
One question (and I really don't know the answer, but if the answer is what I hope it is than you just PWNED yourself): Did the shooter in the Va Tech incident have the paper work and all that good stuff?

He didn't have a concealed carry permit.
 
KillahBee said:
One question (and I really don't know the answer, but if the answer is what I hope it is than you just PWNED yourself): Did the shooter in the Va Tech incident have the paper work and all that good stuff?

he was eligible to purchase a gun, but not allowed to legally carry it.

this bill would have allowed people to carry a concealed weapon on campus ONLY after they have filled out paperwork with the county sheriff, had a background check on the state and federal level, had their fingerprints taken, successfully passed an NRA safety course, and paid the fees for doing so.

there is a difference between a person who takes that much time, effort, and legal hassle and a person who just tosses a gun in his backpack.
 
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