Newspaper Publishes List of All Concealed-Carry Holders' Names and Addresses

[InquisitivePsyche]

i primarily disagree with the publishing of any such list. as for having access to the information by going one's self to the police or some hall of records...i'd have to think more carefully on that. one's right to and desire for privacy makes me instinctively balk at the notion, and there's probably no end to the kinds of information that one might find a use for (even if just for peace of mind), if given access. but unless there's some practical, solid rationale which makes 'big picture' sense for knowing that your neighbor has a gun permit (i.e. is it likely to matter one fucking bit, except in an easily-contrived set of circumstances), i'd err on the side of privacy.

as in other areas of gun-related policy, i'd tend to think that the ones you have to worry about are those that won't have permits or abide by the law in general.

i don't know...i have to go take a leak. hopefully i won't get shot on my way back from the men's room.

I think I agree. I wonder how the 4th amendment would play a role in this (specifically talking about "secure in their papers"). Right to privacy? Who knows.. there's always ways around the Constitution. Lmao.

 

[InquisitivePsyche]

In that case let's do away with vehicles since people drink and drive in them.

You do not strip law-abiding citizens of their rights simply because a few dumbass people abuse them. That is why there are laws to punish the ones who do commit crimes, not the ones who don't.

Totally see your point however I think you would have more problems with people using guns improperly (since it is so easy to get one legally and illegally) than drunk driving incidents. I'd have to research that to see the numbers, though. The government constantly strips law abiding citizens of their rights in order to protect others. I'm not saying I agree with it, but there's so much that can be argued in that area. Law is definitely a controversial topic, no doubt.

 

[mountain muscle]

Totally see your point however I think you would have more problems with people using guns improperly (since it is so easy to get one legally and illegally) than drunk driving incidents. I'd have to research that to see the numbers, though. The government constantly strips law abiding citizens of their rights in order to protect others. I'm not saying I agree with it, but there's so much that can be argued in that area. Law is definitely a controversial topic, no doubt.

Take a look at the types of weapons included in this newest rendition of the AWB (h.r. 1022) and you will see how absolutely rediculous it is, especially when you actually see the numbers that are involved in crimes.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Totally see your point however I think you would have more problems with people using guns improperly (since it is so easy to get one legally and illegally) than drunk driving incidents. I'd have to research that to see the numbers, though. The government constantly strips law abiding citizens of their rights in order to protect others. I'm not saying I agree with it, but there's so much that can be argued in that area. Law is definitely a controversial topic, no doubt.

Alcohol can be purchased much easier than a firearm so I don't understand why that nor the specific number of problems is revelant at all. People use both to kill and often.

Trust me I agree that striping of our rights occurs. Personally I think we are about 85% of the way from having a police state in the USA. Goodbye freedom, hello big brother.

 

[InquisitivePsyche]

Alcohol can be purchased much easier than a firearm so I don't understand why that nor the specific number of problems is revelant at all. People use both to kill and often.

Trust me I agree that striping of our rights occurs. Personally I think we are about 85% of the way from having a police state in the USA. Goodbye freedom, hello big brother.

Agreed. Our society has definitely reached what is termed, "Culture of Control." The government/police have more power now then they ever have. Interestingly, this was an area that we covered in a law class I took and I found it so true. It's sad - I am not a huge fan of the police (at least here in Chicago) because there is so much corruption going on. I'm not saying all police but you get my point...

 

[alien amp pharm]

Agreed. Our society has definitely reached what is termed, "Culture of Control." The government/police have more power now then they ever have. Interestingly, this was an area that we covered in a law class I took and I found it so true. It's sad - I am not a huge fan of the police (at least here in Chicago) because there is so much corruption going on. I'm not saying all police but you get my point...

You seem pretty intelligent.

Are you sure you're a female?


teeheehee

 

[redguru]

Post the name of everyone on Food Stamps in the Commonwealth, Mr. Trejbal, just to be fair. Then compare that list to the owners' lists of Escalades and Navigators.

 

[InquisitivePsyche]

You seem pretty intelligent.

Are you sure you're a female?


teeheehee

Lmao. Indeed I am. I am big on learning - always have loved school and all that. AND I would have to agree... sadly, so many girls these days idolize dipshits like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie. God please help us all.

 

[mountain muscle]

Nice work.

Clearly this belongs in the outdoorsman forum. It would be a shame to have any thread of substance, which really is political in nature, on C&C.