The safest steroid

[Anakin]

Nelson, it's hard to measure these things exactly, but would you say 1 gram of primo is safer than 500mg test? Does it make any sense to do this, or are you better off (results and safety wise) by going for something like 400mg test instead of so much primo (not to mention that no one is willing to pay $100+ dollars per week for one steroid).

 

[DaddyX]

but donesnt it return to normal soon after you end the cycle. also another positive of a winstrol only cycle is no need for PCT because it is non armotisable.

i am planning my 1st cycle as a winny only cycle, and i am strongly decided with this. however, i do know of the cholesterol problem you pointed out (Fonz) , are there any precautions I can take to guard against it ?

with regards and appreciation
Powerhouse_101


p.s. any other points about winstrol, would also be appreciated!

ah, what ? not aromatizing has nothing to do with PCT. it will shut you down and thats why you need PCT. of course you need it with winstrol. you need to start reading some more before you screw up

 

[genarr3]

why aren't people saying WINSTROL????


non armoatizable, very light, 99.5% are solely using this, many benefits, ok doesnt make you 'thick' all round, but DOES build muscle. hardens you up. VERY safe.

so why isnt number 1 WINNY?

Winstrol is far from #1. It's actually one of the most harmful. To add to the negatives already mentioned, it's VERY hard on the tendons.

 

[jubei]

Primo but its not really an option.

EQ
NPP
Var

In no particular order.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, it's hard to measure these things exactly, but would you say 1 gram of primo is safer than 500mg test? Does it make any sense to do this, or are you better off (results and safety wise) by going for something like 400mg test instead of so much primo (not to mention that no one is willing to pay $100+ dollars per week for one steroid).

AS you said, it's hard to measure. Your comparison is a good one though. I'd have to say the gram of Primo will yield better results because you're getting more nitrogen retention. But I do think once people get into 3 or 4 compounds at over a gram a week it becomes a moot point. They might as well just do test.

 

[psychedout]

Var/primo/Npp

I am anxious to try out Npp --time to save some cash.

 

[Powerhouse_101]

I was being serious. Please let me explain. Ok, i am a teen (19) but 20 in a few months. however, i want my 1st cycle to be VERY light, non aromatisable, and with many universla benefits (basically the 'athletes' drug, winstrol). most athletes tke this drug, and with it their performance increases, muscle hardness increases, they drop bf, they gain SOME muscle (not an androgenic like other roids) etc

i hope u do understand my point. i will be doing a 12 week cycle with 100mg EOD injections. this, though i am not sure about. would i be better of taking winstrol orally? since its a 17aa, i have read the method of dosage does not matter.

to genarr who said its "VERY hard on the tendons" there is not really any proof that i know of for this to be true. i suspect this is true of all steriods which induce hypertophy, whilst the joints are still playing "catch up" so to speak.

however, i agree totally i am in need of more resarch, i plan to start my winstol only cycle in a few months, so i have enough time yet. i am still unsure of what PCT to use for the cycle. i was under the impression since it does not aromatise i do not need it. would the PCT cycle be long? would the dosages of the anti-E's be high? i would REALLY appreciate any advice on PCT whilst on a winstrol only cycle.


with regards and appreciation

powerhouse

 

[DaddyX]

I was being serious. Please let me explain. Ok, i am a teen (19) but 20 in a few months. however, i want my 1st cycle to be VERY light, non aromatisable, and with many universla benefits (basically the 'athletes' drug, winstrol). most athletes tke this drug, and with it their performance increases, muscle hardness increases, they drop bf, they gain SOME muscle (not an androgenic like other roids) etc

i hope u do understand my point. i will be doing a 12 week cycle with 100mg EOD injections. this, though i am not sure about. would i be better of taking winstrol orally? since its a 17aa, i have read the method of dosage does not matter.

to genarr who said its "VERY hard on the tendons" there is not really any proof that i know of for this to be true. i suspect this is true of all steriods which induce hypertophy, whilst the joints are still playing "catch up" so to speak.

however, i agree totally i am in need of more resarch, i plan to start my winstol only cycle in a few months, so i have enough time yet. i am still unsure of what PCT to use for the cycle. i was under the impression since it does not aromatise i do not need it. would the PCT cycle be long? would the dosages of the anti-E's be high? i would REALLY appreciate any advice on PCT whilst on a winstrol only cycle.


with regards and appreciation

powerhouse

ok, you are really confused. first off, winstrol can be very hard on the joints in some users, no myth there. injected or not it is still 17-aa so 12 weeks of it is not a very good idea neither is running it alone. if you are not at a decent BF % 12 or less, i would not even use winny. your first cycle should be something like test and or eq. And the post cycle should be ran like it would be with antother cycle. you do not need any anti-e's. PCT should be done after the use of any steroid cycle, aromitization or not doesnt matter. it is ran to get you natural t-level up to par. try clomid or Nelsons herbal route. try anavr if you want the drug to benifit you with athletics, your joints will thanks you

 

[Powerhouse_101]

1st of all many thanks for ur reply DaddyX

the reason why i am planning a winstrol only cycle is i want to do a very LIGHT roid with pleasing effects, a. no bloating (like a baloon on roids such as d-bol) and minimal sides. ok maybe joint pain is a side, but the guys i know who have done winstrol only cycles (my age. 18-20) did not have any sides at all. also i will be running a 8 week cycle maximum, not 12 week (i am not sure why i wrote 12 week, sorry). yes i agree 12 weeks would be too long, for a 17aa as it can be harsh on the liver and lipid profile (however this is only temporary and returns to normal soon after the end of the cycle.)

i also agree with u. i will be at around 10-12% bf before i begin the cycle. that is why i want another 4-5 months till i start it, and will also give me time to get everything in order and plan it more.

isnt clomid an anti-E? why would i use an anti-E with a wnstrol only cycle, as i thought winstol does not armoatise. what would the PCT look like for an winstrol only cycle? i was under the impression it would be short with low dosages of something such as nolva. although i am still confused why anti_E's are needed for a non aromatisable roid.


regards

Powerhouse_101

 

[DaddyX]

hey man 8 weeks is more like it. you are at a good bf% to do winny and people have ran it alone with success. i would do the 100mg eod injected or 50mg ed. as far as cloimd it is not used as an anti-e. you do not need any anti-e's with a non aromatizing drug. clomid is used soley on recovery. good luck bro and ask anymore questions you have.....peace BTW, i never got joint probs with winny, hopefully you wont either