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The past 4 months of my life, opiate additction, hitting rock bottom and rehab

Lambruh

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About a year and some change ago, some folks on here might recall when I was hit by that drunk driver heading home one night. My buddy and I were T-boned at approx 30mph, broke my collar, femur, ribs, ankle - all on my right side. I was bed ridden for a couple months and was scribed on meds for alonggggg time. I was put on 50mg of mscont's split daily for some ti till they tapered me down to percs which I was on for awhile, a while meaning I started buying my own after they took me off my script that refilled for 16 weeks. At the time I denied being addicted because I used the accident as an excuse to use, reality was my pain wasn't from the accident 6 months previously, it's cus I was dope sick and kept putting myself through withdraws.

Some months pass, I would kick the use for a month or two here and there. Once in awhile take a perc, done, oxy etc, one night spree type deals. Well, about three months ago in June I was laid off from what I thought was my lifelong career. In the same week my father had a heart attack was thrown into intensive care. Big bills, panic mode, anxiety, sadness, guilt, shame, self hate and instanly blowing up my dude for pills to numb my mind. For the first week I was eating percs and zooting oxy's, I didn't give a fuck because I filed for unemployment and figured I could get high till it kicked into my account. Well in Ohio it takes a month for the application to get through, so I was getting high for awhile. The binge went from one week to two, then the pills weren't cutting it and I went to heroin to cut costs (80 oxy for $50 is a fucking rape job). I never really messed with dogfood much previously so I only was blowing a bundle of dope a day, splitting it throughout the day, bored as fuck, no job and all I did was workout and party. Three week binge then turned intravenous, once I felt that rush it was all down hill and I loved nodding out so much that nothing mattered.

When I started booting up at first i'd buy a gram of chunk, preload syringes and head out to bars. Nobody knew I was using heroin and definitely not shooting shit up, i'd run back to my car or someones bathroom and bang it, come out like nothing happened. IMO people will accept alcoholics, hippies and even a little coke is fine, but once someone see's heroin, they lose complete respect and you're a loser (and it is because shooting dope is fucking disgusting). My month binge started to carry over to 4, 5, 6 weeks, in that time I sold my winter plow truck for $8k and stopped talking to all friends and family. With that cash in hand my use went from a gram daily to 2-3 grams, I started to fall in love with the needle, sitting around trying to find the next vein became a fun hobby. Lonely for days, havn't eating, didn't matter because all I needed was the high.

Mid August I broke down emotionally, decided to go cold turkey and stop. The next morning I woke up shaking, sweating, paranoid, scared in my own skin. I started getting the withdrawls from a two month heroin binge and never felt anything like it. The doc threw me on clonidine and tramadol, told me to go to a suboxone clinic and be in intensive outpatient therapy. The suboxone clinic threw me on 16mg split daily but it was just knocking me out all day feeling stupid. I even made a thread on here during that time asking about subox saying it was for my sister cus I was so ashamed of being an addict. About a week on subox and I decided to check myself into a real rehab clinic and detox off all the meds completely.

On Aug 30, I bought 2 grams of tar and preloaded 10 syringes for the 2 hour trip up to rehab. I figured if it was my last time I'd go out with some bang. My eyes were crossed and I was nodding out at the wheel on the highway, it was the dumbest fucking thing I ever did. Thinking about it now, my dad asked me if he could take me to rehab and I said no at the time, imagine if I would of died at the wheel. This is what tore me up in rehab, thinking about what was at stake to lose: family, friends, loved ones.

I've been outta rehab for a week now, 29 days clean and feel great. Doing the 90 NA meetings in 90 days, IOP, talking to a pysch, everything. I went into rehab wanting to get clean, paid attention, started working the 12 steps and keeping at it. I'm not all into the higher power idea but the philosophy behind it is great. It's amazing how much I learned about myself in there and the common mental aspects that all addicts share.

It sucks though, i'm a smoker, when I look down at my shirt/pants/shorts, I have burn holes in alot of them. Even though i'm clean, I have that shit triggering me and constantly reminding me that i'm an addict for life. It's crazy what heroin can do and how fast it gets you, honestly never thought i'd use or get hooked on that shit. 2 months use, 1 month clean and i'm still thinking about the trips to get it, finding the vein, drawing up, etc atleast 10 times every hour, it's so hard. You can smoke crack, do hits of acid, PCP, meth and wake up the next day fine. Once you do a night of shooting smack, you're sick for days after until you get that next hit and that's what makes it so hard to break. The withdrawls scare the shit outta me, that and my family is the biggest reason to never use again. Only God can grant me the serinity, that drug had me completely powerless

writing and opening up about this is suppose to be "therapy" for me, apologize for the length
 
Wow, I am really sorry you got stuck in that hell. I am happy you are clean now and wish you continued success. I have seen your story many times and it is sad how one legit start on pills from an accident can turn into an addiction. Stay strong bro! :)
 
Bro.....damn....

First and foremost, congrats on getting clean. I've witnessed heroin withdrawal up close and I can't fucking begin to imagine how hard that must have been.

Secondly, big massive props for sharing here. Check your PMs please, kthxbi
 
It took a lot of courage to put that out there. Thanks for sharing.
Congrats on taking action to get out of that hell hole.
Keep going to meetings and working those steps. You're not alone. Help is there. Use it.
 
Best wishes on your continued sobriety.

Just curious ... did you have insurance to cover rehab? I'm not sure how that works.

Through work I had Med Mutual but after I was laid off I had to apply for COBRA which covered most. Three weeks stay with no insurance was $15,000 at this place, 5k a week, and even more $$$ the longer you stay med'd up in detox, ridiculous

I thought it would be like lindsay lohan, riding horses on trails, catching butterflies in the prairy, it's not. Think a nursing home with a bunch of junkies on hospital beds
 
Posting this here will only help you. Everyone wants you to get better.Good Luck
 
Through work I had Med Mutual but after I was laid off I had to apply for COBRA which covered most. Three weeks stay with no insurance was $15,000 at this place, 5k a week, and even more $$$ the longer you stay med'd up in detox, ridiculous

I thought it would be like lindsay lohan, riding horses on trails, catching butterflies in the prairy, it's not. Think a nursing home with a bunch of junkies on hospital beds

Maybe a kick in the nuts is what you needed? IMO, being forced to think about your life is the best thing you'll ever do.
 
Having a gambling addiction is healthier.



The bookie forum is a gateway to the real thing, I'll make a transfer to get you started.
 
Through work I had Med Mutual but after I was laid off I had to apply for COBRA which covered most. Three weeks stay with no insurance was $15,000 at this place, 5k a week, and even more $$$ the longer you stay med'd up in detox, ridiculous

I thought it would be like lindsay lohan, riding horses on trails, catching butterflies in the prairy, it's not. Think a nursing home with a bunch of junkies on hospital beds

yeah ... I want to go pal around with Lohan for awhile
 
It's funny cus this rehab I went to had this great workout room, better than any gym I've ever been to. So all these clucks are in there sweating out the toxins in the sauna, getting toned up on the machines. Then everyone goes from being a physical mess to wanting to get completely healthy, at the same time everyone is talking about hopping on roids when they get out. Addicts just jumping from one addiction to the next looking for another quick fix to block the underlining issue, self-esteem. The disease just cycles itself and it goes unnoticed.
 
well your lucky it was only 4 months u will only feel bad for maybe 2 ( endorphin depletion )

my "buddy" did 4-9 OC 80s a day for almost a year
after he quit the real pain comes

Felt like the seventh circle of hell , hellraiser, and abandon pitch black jail Alll day everyday even in dreams for about 7 months till one day you wake up normal again..

literally he could have stabbed someone to death slowly and not felt a dam thing emotionally , makes him wonder what everything means, in this domain

anyway.....

do NOT use suboxone, or methadone, just ride it out...

My "buddy" now has an unusual mind now , yet somehow Stronger........ if that makes sense


Have Faith do not do BAD anymore:heart:

and you will come out ok.......
 
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I've heard stories like this so many times I can't count anymore. I'm glad you nutted up and got yourself some help. You have all the support in the world you need here and the more you go to meetings, you'll realize there's a legion of people worldwide that want nothing more than for you to be well. I'm sorry you went through it all but I'm glad you're here with us and doing well.
 
Also this will help you so pay attention

people do drugs usually because they have been hurt or the world hurts them

consider analyzing the source of what oppresses you or triggers you.........
 
Also this will help you so pay attention

people do drugs usually because they have been hurt or the world hurts them

consider analyzing the source of what oppresses you or triggers you.........

You should really try shutting the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about.

So.... 99.9999999% of threads here should cover that.
 
Devastating wit. I mean that.

its not Wit:)
its fact........did YOU do OCs for a year then when you quit, have 7 months of sheer hell where you had ZERO emotions only EVIL, pure EVIL of a killing kind in your head?

The fact is believe in God and Love God here, but will not be surprised at all when have to go to Hell... with those that will join

that was the toll paid
 
its not Wit:)
its fact........did YOU do OCs for a year then when you quite have 7 months of sheer hell where you had ZERO emotions only EVIL, pure EVIL of a killing kind in your head?

The fact is believe in God and Love God here, but will not be surprised at all when have to go to Hell...
that was the toll paid

Quite?
 
Wow bro, idk what to say. Now that you have been MIA and your pm to me and the suboxone thread it all is coming together. I feel like an ass for not knowing.
I know what you are goin through bro, it sucks BIG TIME. The depression after the fact is what you are fighting. Everyday gets better bro. It totally sounds like you are clear headed and aware of your actions and cravings.
I've been there through 8 months straight of bangin 3-4 oc 80s a day, going to rehab and getting clean. Only to have almost a years worth of sobriety and thinking "I can do one here and there casually now" WRONG

That led me down an even darker road, did the same as you.. switched to dog food dope shortly cause it was "cheaper" (oc's were $70 bucks here not $50 like u had FML!)then I got fed up with my connection and the dope game and weened my mind and body off with 20mgs of methadone daily and 100 dollars of crack (we were speed balling at the time)
Anyhow fast forward another 7 months and I am fucked, all strung out, tapped out, new kid, fucked , fucked, and more fucked. Mentally, physically, finacially...fucked. That shit had me by the balls mentally like H did physically. IDK which one is worse. They both suck IMO! Off to rehab again and haven't touched a hard drug since April 08'

So bro, keep on keeping on. Go to the meetings, that is fucking awesome that you are doing that.
Don't hang with friends that use, you can't, you shouldn't.
Don't make the same mistake as me and think it's all right to dibble dabble, it will suck you in, you and me combined are not strong enough.
You are past the hard part, i know you can feel helpless at times and that is normal. Call a family member, pm me or anyone, cry, let it out. We got your back bro.

I'm really glad you are ok bro
 
Yo
 
Doing the 90 NA meetings in 90 days, IOP, talking to a pysch, everything. I went into rehab wanting to get clean, paid attention, started working the 12 steps and keeping at it. I'm not all into the higher power idea but the philosophy behind it is great. It's amazing how much I learned about myself in there and the common mental aspects that all addicts share.

Visit some different meetings to find a group with which you really connect, ok? That's important. I've got 8 years in now and can tell you from experience it's ALL about the group. Definitely the Higher Power concept does not work for everyone. In fact it doesn't work for a lot of people. It's the peer support though homie.

Please visit at least 3 different groups and don't settle until for one until you really find yourself connecting. :)
 
Yo
 
I find it slightly amusing, and then slightly pissed off, that we have all the "official" posts from people who "know" about drug addiction. YET, all but 3 posters have never even been seen in the New Beginnings group. We have EF members who have been EXTREEMLY sick, needed all this sage advise, where were yall then?
Thanks to the other 3, that advise was sound, I hope that you PM'd him and asked him to come join us.

TR, I think that you knew we had a substance abuse group, but if you didn't it's New Beginnings, we'd love to try and help in any way, give you our stories and what worked for us, or just listen.

TxB

Here's the original announcement for the group, check the date, it's hard to believe that during this time, some of you weren'r around to help a Brother or Sister out.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...one-who-experiencing-problems-due-615372.html
 
Visit some different meetings to find a group with which you really connect, ok? That's important. I've got 8 years in now and can tell you from experience it's ALL about the group. Definitely the Higher Power concept does not work for everyone. In fact it doesn't work for a lot of people. It's the peer support though homie.

Please visit at least 3 different groups and don't settle until for one until you really find yourself connecting. :)

And get a sponsor.
And read the Big Book.
Well done.
Keep up the good work.
 
My half-sister battled a heroin addiction for 15 years before she died two years ago from an overdose. She never wanted to quit - she only tried to quit many times to try to make her family happy. The fact that you actually WANT to quit is HUGE......there is some great advice on here, especially the part about don't ever fall into the trap where you think you can dabble once or twice becuase you are "cured". From what you have posted here, you are doing this for all the right reasons, and I honestly believe you will beat this. Good luck to you!!! :)
 
You have a new chance at life. I am so happy for you that you are clean today.
I am sober too, and for me it took going to meetings, getting a sponsor, working the steps, and working on "Me". You have been given a wonderful opportunity to start over.
It's truly just one day at a time, and learning what your triggers are, especially in new sobriety.
For example, I had to get rid of all and any old drinking/using buddies, which hurts in the beginning, but not so much once you make new friends. And not going into environments that I used in- bars etc.
Knowing about HALT helped me a lot too. Taking care of the "Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired" symptoms that eventually could lead to relapse.
As for higher power, that can always just be the 12 step group you attend. It doesn't have to be anything remotely associated with religion. Higher power could refer to any support system you have that is going to help you stay sober.
Come check out the New Beginnings group, it's awesome to have a place to let off some steam and no one will judge you or talk trash.
 
I find it slightly amusing, and then slightly pissed off, that we have all the "official" posts from people who "know" about drug addiction. YET, all but 3 posters have never even been seen in the New Beginnings group. We have EF members who have been EXTREEMLY sick, needed all this sage advise, where were yall then?
Thanks to the other 3, that advise was sound, I hope that you PM'd him and asked him to come join us.

TR, I think that you knew we had a substance abuse group, but if you didn't it's New Beginnings, we'd love to try and help in any way, give you our stories and what worked for us, or just listen.

TxB

Here's the original announcement for the group, check the date, it's hard to believe that during this time, some of you weren'r around to help a Brother or Sister out.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...one-who-experiencing-problems-due-615372.html


I linked the brother up in PMs, naturally.
 
damn bro i never would have guessed this about you.
i'm just getting over getting my asshole sliced up, and i felt the pull of pain meds.
thankfully i fought it off
godspeed good bro
andrew
 
Glad you shared this and you are back bro. We all want you to succeed and get better every day. Get into the New Beginnings group if you haven't already. I know there's some great people in there that will support you.
 
I linked the brother up in PMs, naturally.

I know you did Nef. Without a doubt...
maybe he'll post up, I see he dropped by, but I couldn't find a post. I really wish he would....
He's a DAMN good bro. Nothing to be ashamed of, addiction has no preference. Mom's, dad's, coaches, Dr's, welfare dependant, it takes us all...
But, there is hope. Iam still alive and well, there's the proof. If anyone wants to hear my story, just ask. I'll be happy to share the terrible, horrific, life I lead in hopes the you or a loved one may not have to.
Unfortunately, the computer crashed that had our first New Beginnings pages. In there was my and others stories, in detail. It took months to get all them down, it was VERY valuable info that we had amassed. But even now, where we start the second chapter of sorts, there is a wealth of knowledge and experience that we have written down. If any of you need us, we're here. If you don't want to be seen posting there and want to remain annomous, PM me and I'll keep it confidential. Btw, so would all the others....

TxB
 
I know you did Nef. Without a doubt...
maybe he'll post up, I see he dropped by, but I couldn't find a post. I really wish he would....
He's a DAMN good bro. Nothing to be ashamed of, addiction has no preference. Mom's, dad's, coaches, Dr's, welfare dependant, it takes us all...
But, there is hope. Iam still alive and well, there's the proof. If anyone wants to hear my story, just ask. I'll be happy to share the terrible, horrific, life I lead in hopes the you or a loved one may not have to.
Unfortunately, the computer crashed that had our first New Beginnings pages. In there was my and others stories, in detail. It took months to get all them down, it was VERY valuable info that we had amassed. But even now, where we start the second chapter of sorts, there is a wealth of knowledge and experience that we have written down. If any of you need us, we're here. If you don't want to be seen posting there and want to remain annomous, PM me and I'll keep it confidential. Btw, so would all the others....

TxB

I'm supposed to do a write up of my "story" for my church support group....maybe I'll type it and print it so I can copy and past in new beginnings.
 
hey you new beginnings peeps, would you mind telling what your fix was?
i can't envision nerf or txbondsmen being addicted to things, it goes
against their e-personalities
 
I find it slightly amusing, and then slightly pissed off, that we have all the "official" posts from people who "know" about drug addiction. YET, all but 3 posters have never even been seen in the New Beginnings group. We have EF members who have been EXTREEMLY sick, needed all this sage advise, where were yall then?
Thanks to the other 3, that advise was sound, I hope that you PM'd him and asked him to come join us.

TR, I think that you knew we had a substance abuse group, but if you didn't it's New Beginnings, we'd love to try and help in any way, give you our stories and what worked for us, or just listen.

TxB

Here's the original announcement for the group, check the date, it's hard to believe that during this time, some of you weren'r around to help a Brother or Sister out.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...one-who-experiencing-problems-due-615372.html

holy shit, nope didn't have a clue that group existed. In fact I can't recall ever clicking on that "groups" link even once.
 
Lebron leaving hurt me and caused my use

LOL....It's funny you say that because that's the type of thing i jokingly thought about right after i read your post. I honestly thought that's why you left EF for a bit.

But anyways man, totally surprising to hear that. Thanks for sharing. You've never been the type to open up like that, so I think that is a really constructive step. I think as shitty as things have been, you realized a lot more about yourself than you may have before. I think even with weed, you had addictive behavior. Not physical, but psychological. The difference being is that since there's no physical withdrawal and you can function with weed, it didn't have this type of downward spiral or negative impact on your life.

You got nowhere to go but up from here. Life is very fluid and things can change in a blink of an eye. It's just a new chapter in your life. However you write it is completely dependent on you
 
hey you new beginnings peeps, would you mind telling what your fix was?
i can't envision nerf or txbondsmen being addicted to things, it goes
against their e-personalities


addiction's genetic component means you really can't make any assumptions based on anything. There are a lot of good and apparently normal or successful people that struggle with addiction.

Not only that, addiction just doesn't come in the form drugs or alcohol. Food, internet, video games, sex, gambling. Addiction can literally be anything that inspires compulsive use of something or activity that is detrimental to daily life, despite knowing it is negatively effecting your day to day to life.
 
Can one be part of the New Beginnings even if they have no addictions like myself?

No. In 12 step group language, it's a "closed meeting."

Bino, I've talked about my crap here a bit. I've struggled with bulimia off and on for about 8 years now. I know it's not something a lot of people associate with addiction, but it's all the same demons, just different words for it.
 
addiction's genetic component means you really can't make any assumptions based on anything. There are a lot of good and apparently normal or successful people that struggle with addiction.

Not only that, addiction just doesn't come in the form drugs or alcohol. Food, internet, video games, sex, gambling. Addiction can literally be anything that inspires compulsive use of something or activity that is detrimental to daily life, despite knowing it is negatively effecting your day to day to life.
i'm dealing a bit with a tweaker right now, it's a friend of a friend sorta deal.
walking dead for the most part, once a tweaker always a tweaker i don't see how anyone comes back from that shit
 
It's possible to never do meth again - and not even want to - even if you have done it for a while..........but some people, like my ex, will always want to do it if they get the chance - he's an addict, through and through..... I guess it does just depend on if you have an addictive personality or not. I have been lucky.....my addiction, if I have one, is adreniline. Could be worse, I guess.....
 
Woman have always been my addiction. It is the reason I would drink when I was single.
 
hey you new beginnings peeps, would you mind telling what your fix was?
i can't envision nerf or txbondsmen being addicted to things, it goes
against their e-personalities

Very often it's those you'd least expect to be addicts/alcoholics. The "disease" does not discriminate.

Many are/were extremely skilled at hiding it.
 
It's possible to never do meth again - and not even want to - even if you have done it for a while..........but some people, like my ex, will always want to do it if they get the chance - he's an addict, through and through..... I guess it does just depend on if you have an addictive personality or not. I have been lucky.....my addiction, if I have one, is adreniline. Could be worse, I guess.....

yeah i agree it's possible to never do meth, and to completely recover and have no ill effects.
but i think when you get past a certain point, when your body has rotted just too much and your brain fried too many times,
there is no complete recovery.
you may never do meth again, but you'll always have tweaker characteristics (complusive behaviour, fidgeting, acting like a space cadet, etc).
at least that's what i'm noticing, norcal is chock full of tweakers that only come out at night
 
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I have to agree with you on that - I think there is definitely a point of no return due to permanent damage.
Sounds like Apache Juntion and North Phoenix here in AZ.......tweakers everywhere.
 
I have to agree with you on that - I think there is definitely a point of no return due to permanent damage.
Sounds like Apache Juntion and North Phoenix here in AZ.......tweakers everywhere.

real life zombies
 
hey you new beginnings peeps, would you mind telling what your fix was?
i can't envision nerf or txbondsmen being addicted to things, it goes
against their e-personalities

I drank a beer once and wanted a second one.
 
I'm supposed to do a write up of my "story" for my church support group....maybe I'll type it and print it so I can copy and past in new beginnings.

yes mam, that would be cool! thanks.

it wasn't TOO long ago that you would barely even speak of your addiction/disorder to anyone, now your puttin it out there on C&C, that's progress... :-)
 
Wow, had no idea what you were going through, but I'm happy to see you here. You have my best wishes.:)
 
holy shit, nope didn't have a clue that group existed. In fact I can't recall ever clicking on that "groups" link even once.

then that's MY fault. Sorry, RW. When I got the riot act read to me for being on EF, and a D-vorse almost ensued, but I promised never to go to EF again, ( yes, that makes me a lieing ass big fucking dawg) I had to rely on others to take over. And they did, I was lucky to have the support. I'm still not around nearly as much as I was to keep an eye out for people who may need/want some help.

Now you can tell others when you see the need.....

TxB
 
(my name is andrew
i like smoking weed, long walks on the beach, and discount moist smokeless tobacco) <<<< who is this? lol

alcohol, coke of any kind, meth if there wasn't any coke.... to answer your question Andy. 30 years worth.....
 
Sounds like a lot of people have never heard of New Beginnings.
This has been a great thread.
17 yrs sobriety and going strong.
 
I would say I can be a problem drinker most of the time, which is not an alcoholic to my understanding. Problem drinking means I dont crave alcohol or need to drink, it means when I start to drink its hard to stop before getting drunk. I go weeks without drinking and its no big deal.

I know everyone here is totally shocked by this revelation on my part.
 
I would say I can be a problem drinker most of the time, which is not an alcoholic to my understanding. Problem drinking means I dont crave alcohol or need to drink, it means when I start to drink its hard to stop before getting drunk. I go weeks without drinking and its no big deal.

I know everyone here is totally shocked by this revelation on my part.

sorry to break the news SD, but your one of us. The clincher is, the phemomina of "craving" after alcohol is ingested.... 1's to many and a 100 isn't enough, that old addage....

Yes Ricco, we needs to get out more I see. I may ask N2/ Letto if it's OK if I bump the old announcement thread. Or, it would be just as easy to make another.....either way.

(If I do the old link, my old SN and avi is still there, she's hawt!)

Oh yes, btw I have 10 years clean and sober. That's after 30 years of drinking...
 
Very often it's those you'd least expect to be addicts/alcoholics. The "disease" does not discriminate.

Many are/were extremely skilled at hiding it.


I had 15 people in my group at rehab

2 lawyers (both alchs)
nascar truck driver (pills)
small time radio host in pittsburg (opiates)
3 successful 40+ yo's with great families (pills/opiates/alch)
4 kids that were all hooked on pills/heroin

What suprised me was the amount of kids in there that were heroin addicts, it was unbelievable. now that Oxy's have that gel in them where you can't crush em, the dope use is gunna sky rocket

About 200+ men and women, 50/50 Narcs + Alchs, i'd say 90% of the NA group was heroin/opiate, the rest coke + benzo's, only met 2 for meth. I thought there would be alot more crack/meth addicts
 
And I sincerely appreciate all the kind responses and K, seriously means alot. I've read them all and none went unnoticed. It's great EF has a support group here I can share on, makes me feel less of an outcast. Hopefully I can get back to posting more, just jammed up right now trying to hit all these meetings and floating my resume around to all these companies.
 
Sounds like a lot of people have never heard of New Beginnings.
This has been a great thread.
17 yrs sobriety and going strong.

The Groups function I think is too well hidden in vBulletin. I've been here so long I guess when that function was added somewhere along the line I never noticed it.
 
yeah i agree it's possible to never do meth, and to completely recover and have no ill effects.
but i think when you get past a certain point, when your body has rotted just too much and your brain fried too many times,
there is no complete recovery.
you may never do meth again, but you'll always have tweaker characteristics (complusive behaviour, fidgeting, acting like a space cadet, etc).
at least that's what i'm noticing, norcal is chock full of tweakers that only come out at night

I wish that were true. IME it's not. If you smoked glass for any length of time at all there's damage that never gets fully remediated. Once you work past the first year clean your brain has healed it's physical addiction, or so the docs say. But depending on your age, overall health, and any detoxing/cognitive support supps you take, it can easily take 3 or 4 more for cognitive and emotional stuff to begin to approach real normalcy. I believe the contaminants in that filch fuck your brain up as much as the drug itself. Very toxic stuff.
 
I would say I can be a problem drinker most of the time, which is not an alcoholic to my understanding. Problem drinking means I dont crave alcohol or need to drink, it means when I start to drink its hard to stop before getting drunk. I go weeks without drinking and its no big deal.

I know everyone here is totally shocked by this revelation on my part.
honestly rob, im the same way....

I can go to a party and not drink. But if there's a shitload of people, and the party is off the hook, I can't drink more then three beers.... Or else I turn into frank the tank.

I don't crave it, I can go forever without it. But if i'm in the situation, its hard to not get super drunk....
 
lambro - browns are going to smash the bengals this weekend. it will be a close game but we'll pull off....

and if you want to, we can grab a couple of heat - cavs tickets and steal cw's idea of wearing delonte west masks to scare lebron.
 
lambro - browns are going to smash the bengals this weekend. it will be a close game but we'll pull off....

and if you want to, we can grab a couple of heat - cavs tickets and steal cw's idea of wearing delonte west masks to scare lebron.

lol, or just go to Miami when they play the C's and D West is on the floor
 
hey you new beginnings peeps, would you mind telling what your fix was?
i can't envision nerf or txbondsmen being addicted to things, it goes
against their e-personalities

over the last twenty years, almost anything mood altering. It went in stages.
benzos/downers from 14-17 (age) I still have major memory loss from those days due to blackouts- mixing alcohol and Valium/Halcion
pcp from 17-19 (snorted)
ecstacy from 19-33- off and on, I generally puked on it, and I felt too out of control on it, so it was never my favourite
powder cocaine from 19-33 (my drug of choice, used almost every day)
alcohol remained a constant and I always drank to get drunk from 14-33
weed was a constant too, from 14-33
dabbled in opiates, but they never really did it for me
tried crack about ten times, again I never really "clicked" with it.

My sobriety date is May 27, 2007.
 
well lambro were glad to see you clean and admitting your problem. keep up with the meetings and stay on the right path. its very hard to do. i had 2 cousins in your same shoes. they never made it. one died on 7/2/08 at 19 years old and his older bro just died 7/17/10. sam the older one was out of rehab for a couple months but started drinking very heavily and started doing xanies again. then he relapsed for the first time and overdosed and his mom found him dead. she lost both her babies in the last 2 years.

stay strong roma, you are winning the war handily now.
 
well lambro were glad to see you clean and admitting your problem. keep up with the meetings and stay on the right path. its very hard to do. i had 2 cousins in your same shoes. they never made it. one died on 7/2/08 at 19 years old and his older bro just died 7/17/10. sam the older one was out of rehab for a couple months but started drinking very heavily and started doing xanies again. then he relapsed for the first time and overdosed and his mom found him dead. she lost both her babies in the last 2 years.

stay strong roma, you are winning the war handily now.

That's the cold, hard truth. trajic. very sobering, pun intended. Now you see why some of us find no humor in the "Xannies forever threads" that pop up with some regularity.

thanks for the post DM, maybe someone will see it and benefit.
 
hope not

on my 'friends' way out he had to break through those times

thats when the sharks come ( when u go back)

cold turkey is the only way bro
 
Lambruh, please check in bro and let us know how you are feeling.
Good or bad
Silence is not a good thing.
 
I hope you are doing good bro, and remember there is no such thing as "doing just a little" that is BS and we all know it, like Omega said, cold turkey is the way to go.....
 
doing great thanks!

i'm not going to lie though, I had a few brews watching some football so I guess technically my sobriety run ended, havn't used drugs though. I'm not a big drinker, it's just the cool fall weather, halloween, the leaves, sunday afternoon fb. Stupid mistake

OFF TOPIC: Are the Longhorns even ranked? (lol)
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Been laying low alot, hanging with this chick I met at NA. She's got skeletons but is sweet. Good to hang with someone who can relate to what you're going through. Were not fucking

That's about it, i'm just being a lazy ass collecting Obama money for right now, I don't know how people (pmunk) do it, I get so bored not having a job. No structure, I want to get back to work, any work. Maybe get my masters, it's nice being able to start over, so many new options, no longer institutionalized, free.

Love u guys 8=====D
 
longhorns are gonna be ranked again after beating nebraska i think. but their offense is pretty wack this year with freshman qb, no more shipley, and the same weak ass running game they've had for the last 5 years
 
Cool , good to hear.
Urges will come and go
I'm all about marijuana maintenance, so don't harp on yourself for drinkin a couple brews on a Sunday afternoon. As long as you can handle yourself and not binge.

You workin out?
 
Cool , good to hear.
Urges will come and go
I'm all about marijuana maintenance, so don't harp on yourself for drinkin a couple brews on a Sunday afternoon. As long as you can handle yourself and not binge.

You workin out?
I cant say I agree, not so soon after recovery.....
 
doing great thanks!

i'm not going to lie though, I had a few brews watching some football so I guess technically my sobriety run ended, havn't used drugs though. I'm not a big drinker, it's just the cool fall weather, halloween, the leaves, sunday afternoon fb. Stupid mistake

OFF TOPIC: Are the Longhorns even ranked? (lol)
.
.
.

Been laying low alot, hanging with this chick I met at NA. She's got skeletons but is sweet. Good to hang with someone who can relate to what you're going through. Were not fucking

That's about it, i'm just being a lazy ass collecting Obama money for right now, I don't know how people (pmunk) do it, I get so bored not having a job. No structure, I want to get back to work, any work. Maybe get my masters, it's nice being able to start over, so many new options, no longer institutionalized, free.

Love u guys 8=====D

Im glad you are doing well too :)
just take it one day at a time, don't beat yourself up for having a couple beers. Generally speaking, those of us with addiction issues aren't great with handling alcohol either though.
Addiction is a cunning, powerful, and baffling disease, and it may try to suck you in through the drink, so be careful.
For me, a drink will only lead to hunting down drugs. Guaranteed.
Recovery is a whole process, it is not an overnight thing. It is a lifestyle, and as long as you just focus on the next 24 hours, you have a chance at sobriety. Forget about the past, and don't think about tomorrow.
It is good you have a sober friend, I recommend finding sober male friends too though to hang out with.
 
Im glad you are doing well too :)
just take it one day at a time, don't beat yourself up for having a couple beers. Generally speaking, those of us with addiction issues aren't great with handling alcohol either though.
Addiction is a cunning, powerful, and baffling disease, and it may try to suck you in through the drink, so be careful.
For me, a drink will only lead to hunting down drugs. Guaranteed.
Recovery is a whole process, it is not an overnight thing. It is a lifestyle, and as long as you just focus on the next 24 hours, you have a chance at sobriety. Forget about the past, and don't think about tomorrow.
It is good you have a sober friend, I recommend finding sober male friends too though to hang out with.
Listen to this very wise woman
 
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