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The mirror you VS. The real you

f4209211

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I'm 5'9', 200 pounds at around 15% BF. When people look at me. Their first impression is that i'm bigger and much more muscular than an average person (obviously). I don't have to tell anyone i lift weights and i get asked about my routine all the time.

Then there's the mirror me. When i see myself in the mirror. I think i'm so skinny, i need to put more muscle at least another 20 pounds. Funny thing is when i see a big guy in the gym. I say to some of my friends. Man, i wanna be as big as him and they're like, "you're bigger than him". but i don't see it when i look in the mirror.

Anyone else in here has that problem.
 
You're not alone in the way you are unable to see the "real" you. I'm the same way. I'm supposedly a big mfer, but fail to see it. People don't ask if I work out. They ask how long it took me to get this big and how they can get big. So, needless to say others see something in me that influences thier willingness to converse with me about all things related to being a large human. I, however, look in the mirror and am on my perpetual critiquing mission. For me all the flaws are glaringly obvious and there is always that vision that I am just not near big enough. I have the same problem comparing myself to others as you seem to have. I think a guy is big and he may only be 210 or so whereas I'm 260. I comment to someone that "that guys big", and they simply state, "not really, at least not close to your size". I still fail to see the size differential though. I simply fail to see my true size. I consider it my fuel. That's what keeps the engine of desire cranking so perhaps, phsycologically, it is needed to keep our drive alive.
 
true that, i feel like EVERYONE is bigger than me. I hate it, but as was stated above...it does make me work harder
 
This is an interesting topic hearing that from big guys, I hope I dont think like that later after I put on more mass. I think I have the worst physique from time to time, and sometimes not. I hate the mirror becuase it doesnt lie. Now I wish someone would answer my posts regarding my Omna cycle, help!
 
Muscle Dysmorphia

Oh great....they've gone and made my lifestyle a psycho-pathological affliction. Does this count as a handicap? Can I get special license plates, and parking privileges?


Some Muscle Men View Selves as 98-Pound Weaklings

October 01, 2002 10:32 AM ET


NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Despite having the muscled physique of a Hercules, some men see a pip-squeak when they look in the mirror, study findings show.

The report, published in the September 30th issue of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, adds to a growing body of evidence that suggests that as more men seek muscular bodies, more may be at risk of developing muscle dysmorphia.

Men with muscle dysmorphia have a distorted body image, seeing themselves as having tiny muscles even if they are heavily muscled. This concern can lead to an obsession with gaining muscle and definition at any cost, including over-training and using potentially dangerous supplements such as anabolic steroids.

In the current study, lead author Precilla Y. L. Choi of Loughborough University in the UK and colleagues evaluated questionnaires that measured self-esteem and body image, among other attributes of mental health, for 24 male bodybuilders diagnosed with muscle dysmorphia. Their responses were compared with those from another group of bodybuilders without the disorder.

According to the report, men with muscular dysmorphia reported greater dissatisfaction with their overall appearance, muscle tone and weight. While they saw themselves as less attractive than their peers without the disorder, their appearance was also more important to them.

The findings also suggest that men with the disorder may view themselves to be less healthy than their gym-going peers, but this finding was not statistically significant, the authors note.

"The findings confirm the nature of the disorder in that those with muscle dysmorphia syndrome have poorer body image and are less happy with their bodies," Choi and colleagues write. "Moreover, in addition to a desire for greater muscularity, they are very concerned not to gain fat."

The researchers conclude, "In a changing culture where men's bodies are becoming more visible alongside an increased acceptance of physical exercise as a desirable activity, muscle dysmorphia may be one negative consequence of physical exercise behavior, particularly weight training, being motivated primarily by physical appearance."

SOURCE: British Journal of Sports Medicine 2002;36:375-377.
 
but think of it like this...

if you didn't have that problem would you work out as hard as you do? would you be is dedicated as you are??????

Probably not....So look at the cup as being half full not half empty ;)
 
f4209211 said:
I'm 5'9', 200 pounds at around 15% BF. When people look at me. Their first impression is that i'm bigger and much more muscular than an average person (obviously). I don't have to tell anyone i lift weights and i get asked about my routine all the time.

Then there's the mirror me. When i see myself in the mirror. I think i'm so skinny, i need to put more muscle at least another 20 pounds. Funny thing is when i see a big guy in the gym. I say to some of my friends. Man, i wanna be as big as him and they're like, "you're bigger than him". but i don't see it when i look in the mirror.

Anyone else in here has that problem.


same exact shit hear brother.....:)
 
This is silly.. I don't have that problem. I just need to get my arms a little bigger......And lose a bit more fat. If I could gain 20# and add to my chest I'd be perfect. see I'm not like you guys.. honest
 
ROLGOR said:
This is silly.. I don't have that problem. I just need to get my arms a little bigger......And lose a bit more fat. If I could gain 20# and add to my chest I'd be perfect. see I'm not like you guys.. honest

hahaha,sure ya are bro, you're just in denial right now...:)
 
Yep i am the same...People are like man your big but when I am looking at me in the mirror i look small...

Its like the other night I went to a club with my friends and I have met old friends there that I have not seen since last year. The first thing they said was man your shooting steroid aint you?

So I guess The hardwork show but we dont see it....
 
Its why we're all on this board.

When others look at me they see a big dude. When I look in the mirror I see arms and legs like this.....
:dance2:
 
Festo said:
I have met old friends there that I have not seen since last year. The first thing they said was man your shooting steroid aint you?

So I guess The hardwork show but we dont see it....

lol same thing happened to me the other night... i was laying on the couch watching TV and an old buddie stopped by just to chit chat (his girl lives across the street from us so thats why he was around) anyways... first thing he said was "man, you on steroids or somethign?"
 
It is strange. I am probably by far the smallest guy in here weight wise. 5 weeks into my first cycle, new diet and every single person that knows me makes a comment of how much weight I have put on. Yes some say roids, but they are joking. Someone of my size-- one would never think is juicing lol...but I truley don't see myself changing so dramaticaly. Maybe I am just hard on myself???
 
the thing I hate is thinking every dude is bigger, I don't know what it is but I will look across the room and see a guy and be like "damn now thats big" then walk up close to him and see that I am bigger.

weird:freak:
 
Where

is the support group. I need to start a yahoo group for this disease because I have it.

I'm supposed to be a 'big as fuck', but don't see it. I tell some women this and they laugh, like yeah right. My friends always make the 'if I was your size comment'. Or they ask how did I get all that muscle. I also am the strongest guy in my gym, but get depressed because i'm not like 150lbs stronger than the other strongest guy. If 5 people don't comment on how huge I am I see the little guy in the mirror, when people comment and I walk by a mirror I think I see the true me for a nanosecond.

I don't want to get any bigger. but god forbid I get any smaller.

I know I got it bad.
 
Speaking of the mirror you and the real you.....

Have you guys ever noticed how a photo of yourself looks so much different than what you see in the mirror? Or maybe it's just me.
 
I go through cycles (no pun intended :)) on this issue. I'm certainly "reverse anorexic" much of the time. I'm scared not to eat every two hours and I think I'm physicaly punny. I often look at guys smaller than me as if they were bigger. However, sometimes when in a social setting, I feel like I'm king Kong in comparison to others.

I'm going through a shift in my mentality though. Deep down I know I'd rather be healthier and fitter than others than simply display more bulk.
 
HighIntensity said:
the thing I hate is thinking every dude is bigger, I don't know what it is but I will look across the room and see a guy and be like "damn now thats big" then walk up close to him and see that I am bigger.

weird:freak:


I do the same thing bro, but like you said when i walk by them and realize that i am much bigger although i'm still a little guy only 5'6 216 prob 10% bf a runt and i hate it :bawling:
 
nice post bro...i feel like that all the time---it actiaully causes me anxiety when i look in the mirror. i dont think any of us will be satisfied.....keep lifting though;)
 
Thaibox said:
Its why we're all on this board.

When others look at me they see a big dude. When I look in the mirror I see arms and legs like this.....
:dance2:
Do you really dance like that in front of the mirror? If so I think that you need to see with that issue first bro :D
 
granby140 said:
Mirrors dont show progress, they show how much more there is to do............

This is so true...its the people around you(friends,girlfriend,parents) that help me guage my progress!
 
Hey it's better to be bigger and think you look smaller than be a little due with the inflated lat spread thiniking he's big.
 
Man, I can totally relate to this too!! What a great thread as it is somewhat comforting to know that I am not the only person afflicted with this craziness. My friends, girlfriend, they all say the same shit, but it doesn't matter. I hear what they say, but it doesn't change anything. Some of my friends told me they wanted to hold an intervention for me! Now, I have a pretty good idea why I think like this and when it started...have any of you guys ever considered why or when it started for you? Just curious...By the way, someone said something about pictures looking better than the mirror. I agree with that!
 
prime22
Speaking of the mirror you and the real you.....
Have you guys ever noticed how a photo of yourself looks so much different than what you see in the mirror? Or maybe it's just me.

Yeah bro. I have looked at a pic and thought "who is that? he's big. Then I realize it's me. I kind of like that because it gives me the chance to see what others see.
 
I have the same exact problem...I dont think im as big as people tell me that I am. Best thing to do is have someone take a video camera and tape you with other people that are big...that will give you a better feel for your size than just looking in the mirror.

I was working out at my gym in a room with mirrors on every side, and saw this one guy who looked huge, then I saw that he was wearing the same clothes as me...and when I looked at his face I realized it was me. I heard this is some kind of disorder...
 
prime22 said:
Speaking of the mirror you and the real you.....

Have you guys ever noticed how a photo of yourself looks so much different than what you see in the mirror? Or maybe it's just me.

That's because your face is not perfectlly symmetric. THe subconcious mind is very good at picking up tine differences like that. The mirror you is not the real you. It's a reflection. If you look into a corner lined with mirrors, you will see the "you" that other people see.

JC
 
joncrane said:
The mirror you is not the real you. It's a reflection. If you look into a corner lined with mirrors, you will see the "you" that other people see.
It's interesting to note that, upon using the double mirror trick to see their "real" image, many people become markedly disturbed.
 
I don't have it as bad as I used to but I still got it. I am 6'5 and 292 down from 320. People call me Beef, Meat, Ya Monster and stuff like that. But When I look in the morror I am just too skinny! I am always saying to myself okay, just 15 more pounds. But I don't think I will really look good until I am about 345 and 8% BF. (4 Years to go)
 
yes people tell me I am big, but big compared to what? a guy that doesnt work out? I think the prob is we compare ourselves to what we see in magazines, so my definition of big is different from what my friends and others definition is. just wait until I am big by my definition of big :-) that will be the day!
 
i can def relate to this post.all my friends and family think im nuts, which im not arguing lol.they make fun of me because my food bill for the week could feed a family of four.i must eat every two hours and always carry food around with me.
everywhere i go people call me diesal, or tell me that they want too be my size.even people i dont know appoach me and ask me how long did it take to get that big.but the problem is i dont feel big at all.i look in the mirror and see all the flaws that i have and when i try too show then too other people they say im crazy and its all im my head.
i dont think ill ever be totally happy with myself.i feel like im on never ending quest for satisfaction.
i do agree on the picture thing.i look at the pics and say shit thats me.
ive also done the thing with the mirror.i though i was looking at someone else and i said too myself that guys huge, untill i realized it was my reflection lol
pitbull im catching up too you 5-6 205
maybey ill be happy at 220-230 8%
 
In a way, never being happy with ones physique is a good thing. Would you keep lifting hard day in and day out if u were "satisfied" with how you looked? I dont think the same movtivation would be there in every workout.
 
classic BIGorexia.
im a victim also, but like others said, its not neccessarily a bad thing. keeps me motivated.
haha, reminds me of the last time i was in local hooters bar, it was closing time and a few of my freinds knew the girls there. we walk in and they come up to us and are like "damn, so whos the vin diesel looking mofo there?" i turn and look behind me, they start laughing, and say "ok muscles, play it off then." shit, put a smile on my face.
 
It really hits home when you see yourself on film, or video. I was just in L.A. for an acting gig and after seeing myself on film I couldn't believe how bulky I looked...and I'm only 5-10, 210. I almost wanted to lose weight...naahhhh. Your mirror image is never what others see...
 
Just today I came back to my old town (I'm away at school) and hit my old gym. Seeing some of the regulars there that used to impress me with their size, I realized that I'm much bigger than them! I'm not bragging, but especially now that I'm at the tail end of a cycle, I was getting plenty of envious stares!
 
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