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drgoodbody
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No flames from me... I couldn't agree more. And I like to look like a BB even when off, not like some fat ass football linemen.
DrG
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The case against bulk cycles
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Agree'd but I assume once they've reached a certain level of fatness, as long as they don't exceed that during the next cycle no 'new' fat cells will be created, just old ones will become larger again with fat....
Anyway I know exactly what you mean, I listened to people that said eat everything in sight, I did that and I went up from like 9% to about 15% bf in like 3 months, then when cutting I lost a bunch of muscle..
At the moment I'm eating around 3000 calories per day, and staying around 8% bodyfat while making gains, I eat mostly clean, sugar almost never.. but occasionally I'll have some.. carbs are mostly low-med GI and I usually center them around exercise so I have energy to perform... or after.. when my stores are depleted.. and never within 3 hours before bed.. it works well.
I've found atleast with myself that once a certain type/amount of calories is exceeded it's almost completly useless for muscle gains and fat is being un-nescaserrily gained...
I think the eat everything in sight statements are said by fat people that wish to make it seem as though they are practicing these methods for a greater benefit, when really perhaps not enough discipline is there to stop eating junk.
Anyway I know exactly what you mean, I listened to people that said eat everything in sight, I did that and I went up from like 9% to about 15% bf in like 3 months, then when cutting I lost a bunch of muscle..
At the moment I'm eating around 3000 calories per day, and staying around 8% bodyfat while making gains, I eat mostly clean, sugar almost never.. but occasionally I'll have some.. carbs are mostly low-med GI and I usually center them around exercise so I have energy to perform... or after.. when my stores are depleted.. and never within 3 hours before bed.. it works well.
I've found atleast with myself that once a certain type/amount of calories is exceeded it's almost completly useless for muscle gains and fat is being un-nescaserrily gained...
I think the eat everything in sight statements are said by fat people that wish to make it seem as though they are practicing these methods for a greater benefit, when really perhaps not enough discipline is there to stop eating junk.
My god this is a good post....This is what I usually do, But my last cycle I ate to much shit...Burger King, etc... and believe it or not maltodextrin mad me very bloated and fat...I was consuming WAY to many carbs in the from of maltodextrin...WAY overrated supplement...I would use it post workout only...The funny thing is is I got up to 240-245 and I'm actually a good bit stronger at 220-225 than I ever was then...Karma to you DT....GREAT ADVICE
This is such a good post. I fell into the whole bulk till you are fat thing, and ended up being really fat. Still trying to "cut" after so long. Almost a whole year wasted on this idea, just cause I brought into this.
Also, I had never heard about the "new fat cells get created," wish I had as I would have never done this stupid experiment on myself.
-sk
Also, I had never heard about the "new fat cells get created," wish I had as I would have never done this stupid experiment on myself.
-sk
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c3bodybuilding
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I fell into the same trap SK did. If I remember correctly we even ended up with a similiar look.
I have since learned my lesson. I took a 5 week break and during that time I ate good foods, but in 'normal' amounts. I lost a few inches off my waist, and felt better for it. I had let it get up to 36/8 inches. Now that doesn't seem too big for a nearly 6'4 guy, but when I am very lean, I can get into a 30/31 no problem at all, so that was a BIG increase.
Now I have cut out all the bad stuff. No cakes, no sweets. I only eat icecream once a week, a small bowl. The rest of the time it's quality carbs (and not in crazy amounts like before), and tons of protein. I even mix most of my shakes in water now, except for the bedtime one which is now mixed in half milk, half water.
Tp is my base from now on as well. No more mega bloat from the eth and cyp!
I have since learned my lesson. I took a 5 week break and during that time I ate good foods, but in 'normal' amounts. I lost a few inches off my waist, and felt better for it. I had let it get up to 36/8 inches. Now that doesn't seem too big for a nearly 6'4 guy, but when I am very lean, I can get into a 30/31 no problem at all, so that was a BIG increase.
Now I have cut out all the bad stuff. No cakes, no sweets. I only eat icecream once a week, a small bowl. The rest of the time it's quality carbs (and not in crazy amounts like before), and tons of protein. I even mix most of my shakes in water now, except for the bedtime one which is now mixed in half milk, half water.
Tp is my base from now on as well. No more mega bloat from the eth and cyp!
paramuscle
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Rock on brother !! good post!!
Great Post. Ive never actually done a bulk due to the fact that Ive been playing football but I was thinking about it for this winter. I cant imagine eating that much food every day. I think as long as u r providing the excess clean calories growth should occur with minimal fat gain. My last cycle I shot for lean mass and it worked great. Lowered my bf from 9 to 7 and still went up in weight about 10 pounds.
