The best fat burners available

whitewidow · Oct 20, 2009

What are the best fat burning supplements/aas you guys know legal and illegal?

Spartan2000_ · Oct 20, 2009

RickO'Shea · Oct 20, 2009

Clen and T/3. ECA, and then probably winny or tren

whitewidow · Oct 20, 2009

IM CURIOUS ABOUT TREN.MORE AND MORE EACH DAY. i hear words like transform you body and my ears perk up.at week 10im gonna change things up a bit and run either the tren/prop/masteron combo of 50mgeach with clen,or im also looking into anavar.i mean who doesnt want permanent gains.can anvar and winny be used together succesfully? tren and anavar?im jsut wondering what the best combo would be??? ...also lipoflame and those products seem good too.what to do what to do...i know cardio & diet come first and are the most important.

whitewidow · Oct 20, 2009

RickO'Shea said:
Clen and T/3. ECA, and then probably winny or tren

i dont need to know any more bout t3 just for the record.i dont trust it.not messing with my thyroid :mix:

toxicsambo · Oct 20, 2009

T3, Clen, Bronkaid/mua-hang/aspirin (Yes the asthma meds. 12g of USP grade ephedrine, all lean protein diet w/fresh veggies and nothing else but water.

whitewidow · Oct 20, 2009

conanx said:
never used t3 but hear it works great.

I think strongest to weakest in order is...

Dnp, gh, tren, t3, clen, eca, var, otc shit

i have not used dnp, t3, or gh, but from a few people who have used it this is what i've been told.

Keep in mind that most people combine 2 or 3 of these for some serious fatburning. The best way to burn fat though is seriously doing cardio in the am when you first wake up before you eat. And diet must be spot-on, otherwise you shouldn't even be thinking about a fat burner.

yeah i printed out the tmuscle article on fasted cardio...im gonna start in the am.

Nomadic Dreamer · Oct 20, 2009

whitewidow said:
i dont need to know any more bout t3 just for the record.i dont trust it.not messing with my thyroid

Yeah, I feel the same way...someone recommended T3 to me and I told them to forget about it.

I'm trying a nice combo of EQ, Anavar and clen.....front loaded with winstrol, then switching to anavar.

I need to be careful with the drying of the joints, so that's why I'm making the switch.

PhoenixS · Oct 20, 2009

LipoStim3 + Amplify02 + LipoFLAME:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...uscle-how-agx-fully-shreddedstack-663942.html

period

Nomak666 · Oct 20, 2009

best cutting compound, imo, is clen, t3 burns more weight overall but its just too catabolic, it burns alot of muscle as well as fat, and you have to use some aas to keep the muscle loss to a minimum.

my favorite legal fat burner is lipoflame and lipostim. lipostim is stronger but lipoflame gave me the feeling of good mood when i took it that lipostim didnt. get either of them, or run them together.

i never really notice any fat loss from tren, i do notice tight body and muscles from the low water retention, i ran test @ 500mg and tren @ 250mg and i didnt hold much water.

never used dnp, and i dont think anyone should. its poison, that why you lose so much weight. never had experience but form what i hear, it can make you very sick and the doctors at the hospitol are gonna wonder why your skin is yellow. its the chemicals and dye in the dnp. your better off with clen, t3, eca, hgh, and aas then to run dnp.

but when it comes down to it, i can reach the same level of lean ness with 250mg of test and a proper diet. i actually plan to use only low dose aas maybe test and tren this spring for a cutter and masteron, no clen, no t3, no hgh, no eca or fat burners. i see results faster with those compounds but i hate the way clen makes me have insomnia and the way it makes my heart beat fast, i hate the way t3 makes my body hot and i have to sit in a cool room even in the winter. i hate that eca stacks give me headaches. i hate that hgh puts a hole in my wallet, lol.

OMEGA · Oct 20, 2009

Nomak666 said:
best cutting compound, imo, is clen, t3 burns more weight overall but its just too catabolic, it burns alot of muscle as well as fat, and you have to use some aas to keep the muscle loss to a minimum.

my favorite legal fat burner is lipoflame and lipostim. lipostim is stronger but lipoflame gave me the feeling of good mood when i took it that lipostim didnt. get either of them, or run them together.

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thanks VERY much for the feedback kind Sir

Nomak666 · Oct 20, 2009

OMEGA said:
thanks VERY much for the feedback kind Sir

No problem. its the truth and i also didnt notice a crash with lipoflame like i did with eca and hydroxycut.

RickO'Shea · Oct 20, 2009

I used Katanadrol, and holy shiz it incinerated my fat! I was pretty lean before at 9% but geez it really did transform My Body. Only Downfall was I am very prone to the prolactin induced gyno. ah well 6.5% is a pretty good tradeoff

Nomak666 · Oct 20, 2009

RickO'Shea said:
I used Katanadrol, and holy shiz it incinerated my fat! I was pretty lean before at 9% but geez it really did transform My Body. Only Downfall was I am very prone to the prolactin induced gyno. ah well 6.5% is a pretty good tradeoff

prolactin induced gyno from katanadrol?

HAYEZ · Oct 20, 2009

best way to cut?
this cycle
prop
mast
tren
var
gh
doesnt get better then that
t3 i dont like i ended up fatter at the end...clen made me feel like shit

whitewidow · Oct 20, 2009

nomak666 said:
prolactin induced gyno from katanadrol?

really?why?

goal245 · Oct 20, 2009

I have friends that used propylamphetamine the last 4 weeks before a show and it let them do 3-4 hours of cardio a day without getting tired. burned off a bunch of fat

Nomadic Dreamer · Oct 20, 2009

HAYEZ said:
best way to cut?
this cycle
prop
mast
tren
var
gh
doesnt get better then that
t3 i dont like i ended up fatter at the end...clen made me feel like shit

what did the clen make you feel like?

Nomak666 · Oct 20, 2009

goal245 said:
I have friends that used propylamphetamine the last 4 weeks before a show and it let them do 3-4 hours of cardio a day without getting tired. burned off a bunch of fat

Isnt that basically a weaker version of adderall?

OMEGA · Oct 20, 2009

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RickO'Shea · Oct 21, 2009

Yeah, isn't it a progestin? Maybe I'm confused on my terminology.....anyways Dostinex cleared it up. Na worries

ArmaniAK47 · Oct 21, 2009

I didn't believe in the T3 fucking up thyroid talk either.. I even started low low dose and the shit really fucked me...

I used stimulants before also.. was a /little/ luckier on that..

As I said in another post..You're handling snakes fucking with stimulants and thyroid drugs.. Your heart does enough to adjust to your heavy workouts and body composition changes..

Clenbuterol KILLS heart cells... perhaps they grow back...? but fuck.. is it worth it?

Tren however does not kill heart cells.. I've read that it lowers thyroid levels while you are on it.. which actually makes me less anxious, but "may" reduce fat loss.. (on the flip side less thyroid means eating less of your own muscle..)

It makes up for it though.. Tren kicks fuckin ass.. and if thyroid levels are important to you take iodine and tyrosine.. these two things are what your thyroid makes T3, T4 and T7 with, and unlike pro testosterone crap like zinc it is -for sure- what makes these hormones.. [Radioactive iodine is used to treat hyperthyroidism...]

GH is also good for heart function unless you take too much and it ends up enlarging the heart considerably..

Your choice bro.. I think you would actually do better with Trenbolone/Anavar and Test with diet and high intensity cardio..

whitewidow · Oct 21, 2009

yeah im juggling the tren,anavar,winny,clen balls and im thinkn of what im gonna do.too early to decide.i really want to see some before and after photos related to differnt combos and jsut see how it worked for others.i laready know the results of the winny,clen,tprop combo on my body.something tells me tren and anavar may be the path for me.but im still curious about primo as i do wan those permanent gains.anavar does this as well.what about ANAVAR,PRIMO,TREN AND LOW TEST?COULD I DO WITHOUT ONE AND WHY?

ArmaniAK47 · Oct 21, 2009

My good friend used primo once.. only 100mg a week with test and he felt great, he loved it.

From what I have read primo is really safe too.. If it wasn't so damn expensive I would give it a hardy try myself.

Also; I think all gains are permanent.. it's how well you keep your diet and hormone levels..

Water weight can leave and that can make people think they lost muscle..

Usually steroids with the "permenant gains" ratings are ones that shut you down less and/or cause the least water retension...

-Keep your test levels high enough with a good diet and your workouts and you wont lose muscle after a cycle.. [imo]

baxitek · Oct 21, 2009

100mg ED of dnp + 250 test e EW + cardio + great diet = burn fat.

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