the anavar poll

[tonyroma]

LOL nah bro you're not a girl. I didnt mean it that way. I wasn't putting down anyone that uses var. Just my opinion. That, and it seems that all the spring break/summer time juicers choose var to get "shredded" (yeah right) because of their lack of knowledge. That is, they think it's safe at high doses and doesnt suppress HPTA. And I agree 100% money should not be a factor. But when you compete and are on GH pretty much year round, it makes the decision easier whether or not to get a bunch of winny versus much less var for the same $$. Also, I mentioned this in another var thread, all the buzz var gets on these boards is not good for you guys that use it. It allows the labs to keep their prices nice and high due to demand. Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.

How much do you think they underdose/cut Var (UG labs) 20%,30%,50%?
Lets say you got 30ml's of var -50mg/ml. You think it would be more like 20-40mg per ml?????? Thats some bullshit if true....

 

[52_21_30]

How much do you think they underdose/cut Var (UG labs) 20%,30%,50%?
Lets say you got 30ml's of var -50mg/ml. You think it would be more like 20-40mg per ml?????? Thats some bullshit if true....

I know the BD 10 mg tested at 7 mg. As far as liquid prep's I have no idea. Makes you wonder why people swear by these high doses (100 mg/day). If it were pure you wouldnt need anywhere near that dose. UG labs that use powder to make caps are what you have to worry about. I tried GTP's winny caps once and i got bloated with a lot of acne. It was probably underdosed dbol powder.

 

[tonyroma]

I know the BD 10 mg tested at 7 mg. As far as liquid prep's I have no idea. Makes you wonder why people swear by these high doses (100 mg/day). If it were pure you wouldnt need anywhere near that dose. UG labs that use powder to make caps are what you have to worry about. I tried GTP's winny caps once and i got bloated with a lot of acne. It was probably underdosed dbol powder.

Wow, that might explain why I never really felt the Var until I bumbed it up to 75 ed. I didn't realize that it was sold like coke.

 

[52_21_30]

Wow, that might explain why I never really felt the Var until I bumbed it up to 75 ed. I didn't realize that it was sold like coke.

It's not just var. Any powdered capsule may be underdosed. But var is the most notorious due to its popularity and price. If anything it's usually cut with some winny, or may very well be straight winny.

 

[bbkingpin]

I loved it!!!!

The cholesteral issue concerns me though.

Does anyone have any good links on the effects Anavar has on cholesteral?

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01828yf.jpg

This is what it did to me, lowered good cholesterol (HDL) quite a bit which threw off cholesterol/HDL ratio. Bad cholesterol (LDL) was still in normal range and total cholesterol was still in low-normal range, but the fact I had virtually no bodyfat, was exercising and doing a lot of cardio at the time, shows how much anavar can screw up your blood cholesterol levels despite otherwise doing all the right things (like diet, exercise, and weightloss).

I was taking 50mg/day of BD var. Nothing else (no test, nothing). I would never again take a mild anabolic without at least maintenance level test (250mg/week or 250mg/two-weeks). Low test means low libido and aggression, etc.

 

[iHulk]

Also, unless you're getting pharm grade oxandralone, you are getting ripped off. I have not seen an UG lab that sells var at the dose advertised. The chinese powder used to make the capsules is underdosed right out of the gate, then the labs underdose it a little more. Even BD var when tested was underdosed.

But hey, to each his own. Best of luck to all with whatever you choose to run.

TRUEST STATEMENT ON EF THUS FAR>
Right now there are only a handful of Pharm Grade Oxandrolone products that have quality powders made from India and tested to USP (United States Pharmacopeia) or BP (British Pharmacopoeia) standards. If you took far over 50mg and did not get more vascular, stronger, ripped, shredded and harder, you got some way underdosed or possibly mislead bottle of var.

The powder per kilo is more expensive than most any other AAS, but its shouldn't 'break your bank.'

 

[iHulk]

and if you get a powder capsule of anything I'd be totally suspect of it!!
Oxandrolone tabs come in 2.5mg thru 10mg tabs. There are NO labs currently making quality Var above 10mg tabs.

30mg/day for men is often considered a very high dose for prescriptions.
Women, 5mg /day.

Some pro BB'ers have been using upwards of 150mg/day on cycles. This is an extremely high dose is often short lived. Others I know use 30-50 mg ed with prolonged cycles.

http://www.genesismeds.com/product_details.asp-mcat=3&pidx=11.htm

 

[bbkingpin]

TRUEST STATEMENT ON EF THUS FAR>
Right now there are only a handful of Pharm Grade Oxandrolone products that have quality powders made from India and tested to USP (United States Pharmacopeia) or BP (British Pharmacopoeia) standards. If you took far over 50mg and did not get more vascular, stronger, ripped, shredded and harder, you got some way underdosed or possibly mislead bottle of var.

The powder per kilo is more expensive than most any other AAS, but its shouldn't 'break your bank.'

That's all fine, so in this reality you have to figure that if the guy who's claiming to get phenomenol results with 100mg/day of an UG lab would get the same results on less if he was using BTG, a human grade USA certified pharmaceutical company. Just keep the dose higher if it's UG. That's why I say fuck all these UG companies. The worst thing that happened was when the Mexican vets were shut down. They were by far the most consistent of non-human-grade labs.

 

[marshallmadman]

Whoa there fellas! There ARE some extremely honest small UG labs out there making quality Var caps from USP26 grade powder that is tested. Their businesses are so small that word of mouth advertising is the only thing they have going for them. If they were to underdose/mislead their customers, they wouldn't be in business very long.
I agree to some extent with the views on some of the large UG's. Those guys start out with the best of intentions, but pretty soon, there is so much money to be made that they forget the real reasons they got into it in the first place.

For what it's worth, there's a feeling you get when the UG you are dealing with cares about what they do, and they appreciate your business. You get personal service, and attention to detail. If you don't get that from your UG, then it's time to shop somewhere else.

 

[georgie24]

and if you get a powder capsule of anything I'd be totally suspect of it!!
Oxandrolone tabs come in 2.5mg thru 10mg tabs. There are NO labs currently making quality Var above 10mg tabs.

30mg/day for men is often considered a very high dose for prescriptions.
Women, 5mg /day.

Some pro BB'ers have been using upwards of 150mg/day on cycles. This is an extremely high dose is often short lived. Others I know use 30-50 mg ed with prolonged cycles.

http://www.genesismeds.com/product_details.asp-mcat=3&pidx=11.htm

ok ive had enough of these types of posts!!

Im sorry but you dont know WTF your talking about man,

nobody make's quality var tabs huh?


LMAO your funny