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[Tweakle]

another solid addition to the EF roster.

is Satch coming back as a COB anytime soon?

 

[Ross]

another solid addition to the EF roster.

is Satch coming back as a COB anytime soon?

Thank you bro!

 

[tshoot]

What PCT did you use?

Used nolvadex/clomid last time. This time, I am giving Dermacrine Sustain a run - with clomid on hand if I feel I need it.

I am only into week 1 of my PCT but so far I am happy with how I feel like I am recovering. Knee joints are a little more sore than normal but I am not sure if that is from runny Winny for the last couple of weeks or if it is from the anti-estrogens in the Dermacrine Sustain.

 

[Ross]

Used nolvadex/clomid last time. This time, I am giving Dermacrine Sustain a run - with clomid on hand if I feel I need it.

I am only into week 1 of my PCT but so far I am happy with how I feel like I am recovering. Knee joints are a little more sore than normal but I am not sure if that is from runny Winny for the last couple of weeks or if it is from the anti-estrogens in the Dermacrine Sustain.

No aromatase inhibitors?

Cabergoline for Prolactin? B-6, anything?

Good review.

 

[tshoot]

No aromatase inhibitors?

Cabergoline for Prolactin? B-6, anything?

Good review.

Derm Sustain supposed to have AI in it. Never used Cabergoline during PCT before although I do have Cabaser tabs on hand. Why do you think that it would be needed for Prolactin during PCT if it wasn't needed during a cycle? I take B6 (125mg) as part of my regular supplement regime. What benefit are you saying it has as part of PCT?

 

[Ross]

Derm Sustain supposed to have AI in it. Never used Cabergoline during PCT before although I do have Cabaser tabs on hand. Why do you think that it would be needed for Prolactin during PCT if it wasn't needed during a cycle? I take B6 (125mg) as part of my regular supplement regime. What benefit are you saying it has as part of PCT?

Just about every steroid increases PROLACTIN.

PROLACTIN is EVIL. Even more EVIL than Estrogen.

Eliminating PROLACTIN during PCT will not only greatly enhance your libido and sex-drive, it will also facilitate a MUCH faster recovery, as PROLACTIN exerts a tremendous negative effect on the HPTA.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Just about every steroid increases PROLACTIN.

PROLACTIN is EVIL. Even more EVIL than Estrogen.

Eliminating PROLACTIN during PCT will not only greatly enhance your libido and sex-drive, it will also facilitate a MUCH faster recovery, as PROLACTIN exerts a tremendous negative effect on the HPTA.

The role of prolactin is controversial.

Besides having inhibitory effects it also has very positive effects on the leydig cells. Smashing prolactin to the ground for any significant length of time is a bad idea for sure – same deal with estrogen.

All hormones have a necessary purpose.

-Pp

 

[Ross]

The role of prolactin is controversial.

Besides having inhibitory effects it also has very positive effects on the leydig cells. Smashing prolactin to the ground for any significant length of time is a bad idea for sure – same deal with estrogen.

All hormones have a necessary purpose.

-Pp

Stop nitpicking...

Estrogen and Prolactin SUCK!

Of course, every hormone has it's function silly...

 

[needtogetaas]

Your comparing the actions of 17aa and non-17aa’s again. They are totally different monsters with completely different pharmacokinetics. Mg per Mg 17aa orals are WAY more suppressive… no mater what hypothalamic receptor you think they are activating. A 40mg dose of ANY 17aa oral is way to suppressive to even mention in the same breath as "recovery".

Your pre-PCT plan would hold way more ground if you removed your recommendation of Dianabol, Winny and Avavar.

-Pp

FYI for others - I posted my thoughts on this in Ross's other thread.

good point

 

[needtogetaas]

Stop nitpicking...

Estrogen and Prolactin SUCK!

Of course, every hormone has it's function silly...

I tend to like to nit pick when it comes to my body and what I do to it...derma works great for pct....