The 1000mg Primo Story.... With Before Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[satchboogie]

now i know many here bash primo for its high price, but you really GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!! and if the below info/pics dont change your mind, nothing will!

the plan was 1000mg a week for 12-16 weeks.
i ended up runnin for 16 weeks.
the only addition was proviron at 50mg a day throught cycle, and a stretch of 3 weeks on clen/t3 in the middle of cycle.

the pic here is taken late february, 2005:

210 pounds
approx 15% bf

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2568/picture3818wb.jpg



these 2 pics were taken july 15th at end of 16 week primo cycle:

222 pounds
approx 10% bf

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7954/standingi8cr.jpg

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9523/totalbodyi0bq.jpg



my diet was fairly clean, although i must admit i could have eaten much much cleaner. lookin back ill honestly say i could have lost more fat if i ate better. but the results are still remarkable to say the least!

training was as usual...
5-6 times per week for 45 minute sessions.

cardio i must have done a total of maybe 5 sessions if that!!!

correct me if im wrong, but this is the first known case of anybody using 1000mg primo per week... id like to get more feedback on this as i truly believe primo at such dose can be a new breakthrough in bodybuilding!

now i know some will still bash primo as they've either never tried it, or havent tried it in a dose that high. they'll do test at 1000mg a week, but NOT primo at 1000mg.. why not? give it a shot!!!

yeah yeah i know its pricy...
primo isnt cheap!
but no test/deca/tren/dbols/anadrol/var/winny will get you teh results of 1000mg primo! I GUARANTEE THAT!!!

im not tryina sell or push anything by this thread!
shit honestly i dont care if people buy turkish primos, BD primos, or any other UG primo.. this is a non-biased thread PERIOD!!!

i even pondered if i could have acheived the same results using different gear? but i've ran cycles before and NONE HAVE EVEN GOTTEN CLOSER to this cycle!!

ok enough said..
ill be glad to reply to all questions on this thread.
thanks.

 

[akita27]

So, you are claiming that you put on 21.5 lbs of pure muscle in 16 weeks? No offense, but I claim bullshit. There is no way you are 222lbs if your avatar is any indication. 22lbs of pure muscle would be almost impossible to obtain on test and tren for 16 weeks and you are claiming that you did it with just primo!!! Come on man, your trying to sell us swamp land in Florida here! And I for one am not buying!

 

[Mr.X]

So, you are claiming that you put on 21.5 lbs of pure muscle in 16 weeks? No offense, but I claim bullshit. There is no way you are 222lbs if your avatar is any indication. 22lbs of pure muscle would be almost impossible to obtain on test and tren for 16 weeks and you are claiming that you did it with just primo!!! Come on man, your trying to sell us swamp land in Florida here! And I for one am not buying!

actually, for new users, 1000mg of primo can do wonders. Primo is an AMAZING product and I think satch brings up some good points on it being almost side-free (other posts).

good man satch, really amazing improvement.

Mr.X

 

[ricorico]

actually, for new users, 1000mg of primo can do wonders. Primo is an AMAZING product and I think satch brings up some good points on it being almost side-free (other posts).

good man satch, really amazing improvement.

Mr.X

ditto.....and he didnt just use primo, he used 1 GRAM of primo.....and hes got pics to prove his gains....

 

[Burning_Inside]

pics wont show anymore

 

[tryn2grow]

just wanted to say congrats on those improvements satch. your before pic is almost like looking at a pic of myself. i'm 5'11 and getting close to 210 myself, 207 right now haven't had bodyfat checked but i would say it is damn close to what you were in that pic. we will see what my 500mg/week of test will do. i hope i get some good results like you.

 

[foobar]

these 2 pics were taken july 15th at end of 16 week primo cycle:

222 pounds
approx 10% bf

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/...talbodyi0bq.jpg

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/...tandingi8cr.jpg

Bummer, couldn't see the after shots. Perhaps due to the ellipsis in the URL.

1g of Primo/week... I and my wallet are jealous!

 

[lilleole]

wasnt this thread just moved?

I'll go down to turkey to get me som primoooo

 

[satchboogie]

ok fixed the links.

 

[Neo22]

so primo or test for a first cycle before someone else asks.

 

[havenlock]

test

 

[Throw2Far]

That would run me just under 2 grand... wow...

Thats $100 per pound of muscle. And some fat loss =). If I had the money i'd be all over that.

 

[Indy]

Hey bro, great progress. I know you know this as we talk often but I will bring it to light for the rest of the EF crew.

I also ran 1gram of primo/week with great results. I only ran 10 weeks but the change in the way my body looked was unreal. I have never been harder, and more vascular than I am now. At 800mg/week I had no sides what so ever...at 1000mg/week I got only small amount of acne starting on shoulders and chest, that's it, blood pressure was great and was 158/89 on the cycle prior with test and deca so I needed the break. I am preparing for another 1gram/week primo cycle and this time will take before and after pics.

Why would I spend this kind of money on another primo cycle when I have a safe FULL of test/tren/winny/deca you name it, I got it and in large amounts too....Well been off the primo for 3 months now, retained all my gains, and never got that crash effect when going into PCT, NEVER !!! Very easy to recover from. I know everyone thinks Satch is in it purely for the bucks, and hey it's his business, but I did what he said, used the primo and he told no lies, that's for sure !!

Thanks Satch,
you da biatch !

 

[Beachboy6294]

Satch, Bro you only did 5 sessions of cardio and got like that? That's AWESOME!!!

 

[Indy]

Satch, Bro you only did 5 sessions of cardio and got like that? That's AWESOME!!!

By the way, while on Primo, I did NO CARDIO at all, I hate it, and still got leaner and meaner and more vascular. I lowered total caloric intake while on primo, and it made me leaner, but lean mass went up, the shit is like magic, hope my next primo cycle goes nearly as well.

 

[maldorf]

I think those results, from the pictures, are awesome. I would consider the high dose primo if I knew how easy those gains were to maintain once you go clean. Are you going to go clean now Satch, and for how long? It would be great if you could keep us posted on how you are able to maintain those gains.

 

[wayneboard1]

what the basic reason why primo is so high in price? is it because of it's proposed benefits or the lack of manufacturers or what excatly? Thanks!

 

[satchboogie]

I think those results, from the pictures, are awesome. I would consider the high dose primo if I knew how easy those gains were to maintain once you go clean. Are you going to go clean now Satch, and for how long? It would be great if you could keep us posted on how you are able to maintain those gains.

yes ill surely keep everybody updated on PCT.
ended cycle at 222 pounds so lets see what happens

 

[rnch]

outstanding results, satch!

 

[hawaii50]

after i graduate and get a good "high paying" job i'm gonna be all over that!

Satch you look awesome!

 

[DieselGunz]

Current Cycle 1000mg Primo/Week, 100mg Var/Day, 75mg Proviron/Day


Indy, that would be my dream cycle, i am only on 40mgs of var for my first banger and i feel amazing.

I can not comprehend primo and var at those dosages.

 

[van_wilder]

Just wondering... i thought i remember reading on another thread that you've only been training for 2-2.5 years? Isn't 1g of primo pretty aggressive?? How many cycles have you run previous to this?
VW

 

[FISHTALES]

what % of gains and vascularity do you expect to keep (obviously maintaing good diet and training)

 

[criffer]

What kind of results would you guess could be achieved at half that dose, would 500mg primo per week produce half the results or is there a point of diminishing returns with primo like other roids. i must say primo is a very enticing option especially for the low risk of sides and the high percentage of keepable gains, which in reality makes it more cost effective, especially if the cost of you PCT is ...say cut in half (just a guess). satch were you running only primo?? If not what else??

Also if you are getting those kinda results without alot of hours of cardio, it has to be considered too because time is money and time i can save from having to do tedious cardio every day to get the physique i want is time I can be out there enjoying life or making more money....I guess bottom line is you have to look at quality/maintainable gains per $$$ , and the satch experiment has me very interested...but would like to know the opinions out there on a cycle of say 500-600 mg/wk primo, with maybe 50mg ED of Var and 200mg /week test........

 

[Indy]

Current Cycle 1000mg Primo/Week, 100mg Var/Day, 75mg Proviron/Day


Indy, that would be my dream cycle, i am only on 40mgs of var for my first banger and i feel amazing.

I can not comprehend primo and var at those dosages.

Yea that's abit outdated, that was my last cycle, I am clean right now and PCT has ended. As a matter of fact next monday (week from today) is my blood test so I cant wait to see how that comes out.

Satch told me that cycle would be amazing and he surely did not lie, I sent him pic's of my arms during that cycle and I could just hear him drooling over the MSN Messenger

 

[Makavelli]

OK guys...with all due respect to Satch, I like the guy as he's stand up, so don't take this personally. But cardio is a must to get down to around 4-5% BF while retaining muscle. Satch is lean in those pics compared to most people. 10% is low when most are 20, but I don't think it's that lean. Lean to me means 6% and under. That impresses me. So if he got down to 6% w/o cardio, then I'd be impressed. I'm sure Satch would agree that if he would have done cardio he would have been much leaner.

Anyway, I'm interested in trying Primo out at a G a week. Just have to wait until I can afford it.

 

[ass_face]

Best cycle I every did was 700mg of Primo a week/500 Tren Enathate/ 400 EQ/ 200 Cyp. Did a 6 week cycle and I dropped from 11% to 7% and went from 221 to 234 in body weight. Primo rocks... among others...

 

[sweed]

Satch, you can sponsor my 1g primo cycle in a few years. lol
great results bro.

 

[little chris]

primo is an amazing drug. granted it is expensive and most be used in higher dosages but if you work hard with primo, primo will work hard for you. I'm considering using the British Dragon primobol tabs at 100mgs ed next cycle.

 

[nishnish]

primo is an amazing drug. granted it is expensive and most be used in higher dosages but if you hard with primo, primo will work hard for you. I'm considering using the British Dragon primobol tabs at 100mgs ed next cycle.

primo tabs won't give you half the results of the injectable bro.... best to save up, bite the bullet, and load up on the oil based.


primo tabs are best left to the birds

 

[satchboogie]

VAN WILDER..

i ran about 5 proper cycles so far.

FISHTALE..
during my PCT, i go on creatine and high cals.
that pretty much helps to maintain all the muscle i gained..
but i may add a few pounds of fat.. its all good though..
its part of the pct plan.
if you DONT eat well on PCT youll kiss most gains goodbye!

CRIFFER..

i suppose at 500mg a week youll see solid results.
but double it and perhaps double the results???

INDY69CAMARO...

youre a guru!!!!!!! lol

MAKAVELLI...

yes bro i agree.
10% is not lean as can be.
i suppose 8% and under is lean.
5% is extremely lean!

 

[UA_Iron]

That would run me just under 2 grand... wow...

Thats $100 per pound of muscle. And some fat loss =). If I had the money i'd be all over that.

under a 5th of that price if you go UG lab

 

[criffer]

under a 5th of that price if you go UG lab

What UG labs have good quality and good prices on primo?????

 

[Indy]

What UG labs have good quality and good prices on primo?????

Only one I would trust to be legit is British Dragon, while I have never tried their Primo, their products have been top notch in the past for me. With that said I added the bucks needed for a cycle of Shering vs. BD, and the diff was only about $10 per 10ml vial needed from BD. So an extra $40 to $50 per cycle you can go human grade vs. UG......that's why I have never tried BD.

 

[view]

What UG labs have good quality and good prices on primo?????

orbits and supra.

 

[gettinkrunkd]

orbits and supra.

forget UG, when its primotime for me....I'm going to the boss

 

[Bozwell]

what kind of streanth gains could you expect from such a high dose of primo
cheers

 

[The Terminator]

***EDITED***

This board has gotten kind of "loose" with what is allowed here nowadays

 

[BIGJAKE]

This board has gotten kind of "loose" with what is allowed here nowadays

agree with Term No shit slow down with these kind of post fellas.

 

[little chris]

agree with Term No shit slow down with these kind of post fellas.

think before you type boys

 

[rnch]

SO true! discretion, guys..............discretion..........

 

[Indy]

This board has gotten kind of "loose" with what is allowed here nowadays

Edited, only shows in your quote now

 

[havenlock]

So what's the verdict Schering or BD for quality?

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Great Job brother. I wish i could get my hands on some primo. I have gotten primotestin but not the real goods.
I got your back i dont care what others say....some K for you!

 

[Indy]

So what's the verdict Schering or BD for quality?

I think the point is why gamble with quality, when for only $10 more you can get Shering, the real deal ??

 

[havenlock]

That was my question. Schering is better quality then... given that it's the 'real deal'l.

 

[Advisor_x]

Can't see the pics but are the same from sunday contest........

 

[will b huge]

ditto.....and he didnt just use primo, he used 1 GRAM of primo.....and hes got pics to prove his gains....

That before and after pic is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING in only 16 weeks....

Holy shit, you look like you put 5 yrs of muscle on your ass.........


Very impressive mate....

 

[exclusive]

to be honest with you i think you look better before...now you look burnt way to dark no offense man..you should of just worked on cutting and eating...and never of gone on primo...thats just my opinion but i shit u not the other before pic is so much better bro you look all plastic and euhhh in this 1 sorry

 

[will b huge]

MAKAVELLI...

yes bro i agree.
10% is not lean as can be.
i suppose 8% and under is lean.
5% is extremely lean!

SLAT1 is only 7% bodyfat at like 240lbs and NEVER DOES CARDIO!!!!!! If you manipulate your diet and eat clean enough-properly.....It will bring your abs in....

 

[granby140]

links wont work for me

 

[LVTitan]

So, you are claiming that you put on 21.5 lbs of pure muscle in 16 weeks? No offense, but I claim bullshit. There is no way you are 222lbs if your avatar is any indication. 22lbs of pure muscle would be almost impossible to obtain on test and tren for 16 weeks and you are claiming that you did it with just primo!!! Come on man, your trying to sell us swamp land in Florida here! And I for one am not buying!

have you done primo before ? if not then dont call bullshit. i have used it before, and i only got thru 6weeks of it at 400mg/week and was thoroughly impressed. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND IF I RAN A GRAM OF PRIMO FOR 4 MONTHS I COULD EASILY PUT ON 20LBS... NO FUCKING DOUBT !!
AND IF A CERTAIN PRIMOGOD CARES TO HELP ME MAKE THAT AN AFFORDABLE CYCLE I WILL DO IT AND POST PROGRESS PICS ALONG THE WAY.


BY THE WAY SATCH, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME PRIMO SIDES HIT ME UP PLEASE...

 

[LVTitan]

Just wondering... i thought i remember reading on another thread that you've only been training for 2-2.5 years? Isn't 1g of primo pretty aggressive?? How many cycles have you run previous to this?
VW

vw, Primo is a very mild compound. most people told me it was a waste to only run 400mg/week. they recommend 6-800mg/week

i am very impressed with primo.

 

[small but working on it]

nice results. I did hear or have read that the main side for Primo is hairloss ? Is that corrrect ? That is a pretty big side if you ask me.

 

[LVTitan]

nice results. I did hear or have read that the main side for Primo is hairloss ? Is that corrrect ? That is a pretty big side if you ask me.

that's what i was curious about, because satch always had a full head of hair in every pic i've ever seen of him, and these contest pics show that something has definitely happened upstairs
was it the primo satch, or the proviron maybe ?

 

[gettinkrunkd]

pics still arent working boogieman, can someone post them up?

 

[Tweakle]

from my limited experience primo will chew up hair like a moth at a versace buffet (less than 75mg tren ED & test a week on top of that)... but those are some solid results and if you're gonna go bald from MPB anyway you might as well be big and lean with it

 

[gettinkrunkd]

no one in my fam is bald, when you say mpb, you think i should worry anyways bout some drugs fellas?

 

[TraxZBT]

have you done primo before ? if not then dont call bullshit. i have used it before, and i only got thru 6weeks of it at 400mg/week and was thoroughly impressed. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND IF I RAN A GRAM OF PRIMO FOR 4 MONTHS I COULD EASILY PUT ON 20LBS... NO FUCKING DOUBT !!
AND IF A CERTAIN PRIMOGOD CARES TO HELP ME MAKE THAT AN AFFORDABLE CYCLE I WILL DO IT AND POST PROGRESS PICS ALONG THE WAY.


BY THE WAY SATCH, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME PRIMO SIDES HIT ME UP PLEASE...

20 lbs yes... of muscle... no. Takes years, not months,for true hypertrophy to occur. Primo is not a wonder drug... and I hate the fact that this thread is making it sound like it is..

 

[khemix]

Satchums, I honestly don't think primo would make me look like this:
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1350074
(these were for that contest we had here on elite. No wheels due to the fact that she dropped the f'ing digicam in my pool.)

Thats test and tren, gained 29lbs, 4-5%bf, with very mild night sweats as the only side effect. No elevated values whatsoever (I'm on accutane and i get bloodwork). Tren is just a much more potent steroid, mg for mg. I personally believe it's all in how your body reacts to things. Granted primo is a much safer drug, I honestly don't think it could have given me the same gains and at such a low bf.

Anyone see what I'm saying, or am I just retarded?

 

[akita27]

have you done primo before ? if not then dont call bullshit. i have used it before, and i only got thru 6weeks of it at 400mg/week and was thoroughly impressed. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND IF I RAN A GRAM OF PRIMO FOR 4 MONTHS I COULD EASILY PUT ON 20LBS... NO FUCKING DOUBT !!
AND IF A CERTAIN PRIMOGOD CARES TO HELP ME MAKE THAT AN AFFORDABLE CYCLE I WILL DO IT AND POST PROGRESS PICS ALONG THE WAY.


BY THE WAY SATCH, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME PRIMO SIDES HIT ME UP PLEASE...

No offense buddy, but you are only 145lbs soaking wet. I am 230lbs at 5'10''. Keep doing your Primo only cycles!

 

[akita27]

nice results. I did hear or have read that the main side for Primo is hairloss ? Is that corrrect ? That is a pretty big side if you ask me.

Look at Satchboogie. It looks like Primo hasn't been kind on his hairline. Primo is a derivative of DHT.

 

[akita27]

20 lbs yes... of muscle... no. Takes years, not months,for true hypertrophy to occur. Primo is not a wonder drug... and I hate the fact that this thread is making it sound like it is..

No kidding bro. I can't believe people actually are buying satchboogies bullshit claim of adding 22lbs of LEAN MUSCLE in 16 weeks!

 

[ricorico]

No kidding bro. I can't believe people actually are buying satchboogies bullshit claim of adding 22lbs of LEAN MUSCLE in 16 weeks!

if your taking a gram of gear for 16 weeks and you cant put on at least 20 lbs, then your doin somthing terribly wrong with your training or diet....i dont see why 22 lbs is so hard to belive....i know poeple who have gained more on less gear....why is his gains so hard to believe>?????....22lbs is a totally obtainable goal on that much gear

 

[TraxZBT]

if your taking a gram of gear for 16 weeks and you cant put on at least 20 lbs, then your doin somthing terribly wrong with your training or diet....i dont see why 22 lbs is so hard to belive....i know poeple who have gained more on less gear....why is his gains so hard to believe>?????....22lbs is a totally obtainable goal on that much gear

bro 22lbs is attainable... but this claim is 22lbs of muscle.. For me personally I can't put on that much muscle no matter what I take. Maybe, maybe...I can put on 10lbs of muscle if it was my first cycle... but 22lbs of pure solid lean mass?????? Don't know how far you are to your genetic limit... but you can see where i'm coming from if every good cycle you net 5-6lbs of lbm.

 

[The Terminator]

bro 22lbs is attainable... but this claim is 22lbs of muscle.. For me personally I can't put on that much muscle no matter what I take. Maybe, maybe...I can put on 10lbs of muscle if it was my first cycle... but 22lbs of pure solid lean mass?????? Don't know how far you are to your genetic limit... but you can see where i'm coming from if every good cycle you net 5-6lbs of lbm.

Maybe for someone who is 135 lbs and just started working out and is taking a gram of gear you could probably expect to get those kinds of gains
(BUT those kind of people I just described are THE LAST ones who should be taking steroids )

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

correct me if im wrong, but this is the first known case of anybody using 1000mg primo per week... id like to get more feedback on this as i truly believe primo at such dose can be a new breakthrough in bodybuilding!

OMG. LMFAO!
Yea bro you're officially the first one to pump 160 amps of Primo in you during 16 weeks and still look ALMOST natty

 

[maldorf]

OMG. LMFAO!
Yea bro you're officially the first one to pump 160 amps of Primo in you during 16 weeks and still look ALMOST natty

Lets see you post some before and after pics of your progress on this site where thousands of people can view it! It is getting old watching you make posts like this. Satch has the balls to do this, and you have to respect him for it. I think most of us would agree that he looks very good for the short time he has been bodybuilding. I am sure as he gains more experience in the gym his gains will get even better. It takes a long time to learn what works best for your body.

 

[gymratforlife]

Heh I know for me to put on 8-10 lbs of lbm on a 16 week run is hard and I kill muyself in the gym eat like a horse and take more gear than a gram of primo.

 

[criffer]

Im not seeing where he claimed to gain 22 pounds of muscle, he stated starting weight at 210 and ending weight at 222, thats 12# gained and a 5% loss in BF% is that how the 22 pounds of muscle was calculated????

 

[ricorico]

Im not seeing where he claimed to gain 22 pounds of muscle, he stated starting weight at 210 and ending weight at 222, thats 12# gained and a 5% loss in BF% is that how the 22 pounds of muscle was calculated????

hahaha, lol....good point, maybe we should do the math before discussing this

 

[gymratforlife]

Im pretty sure thats were the 22lbs add up though.To gain 22lbs of muscle and a bunch of fat along the way is pretty much incredible.To gain 22lbs of muscle while cutting and losing a bunch of fat on restricted calories is pretty much a miracle imo.If this is the case and I can see hard proof I will throw away my whole stash and buy primo only no matter what the price is its worth it if it can do that.

 

[natty]

No kidding bro. I can't believe people actually are buying satchboogies bullshit claim of adding 22lbs of LEAN MUSCLE in 16 weeks!

What was your old EF name I know your not new to this site so why do you have to hide behind a new name. So you make a new name to hide like a bitch. No one who just registered in July and has 7 posts and is already bashing is new. I'm not even trying to defend satch, I haven't talked to him one time on this site and I voted for carth. But I think there is alot of pussys hiding behind new names so they can talk shit.

 

[Outtlaw]

Hmm... I wonder what all these guys who run grams of primo would look like if they ran grams of test and deca??

BTW, good job Satch. As long as you keep improving, that's all that matters. I'll see you on the other side at 240lbs.

 

[borg4902]

Im sorry, I dont want to talk shit or offend. But if this contest was suppose to be like a real body building competition Satch looks like shit! 16 weeks is a lifetime he could have gotten to the sub 4% range with 16 weeks and that kind of gear. I was extremely dissapointed with the pics.

 

[The Terminator]

Primo may give the least amount of sides at lower doses (but I dont know that a gram of primo/week would qualify)

And DONT ask me to run that amount of Primo suckas lol...
My hair is ALREADY coming out without using any DHT derived drugs ...So NO WAY will I chance speeding that up with Primo (or Winny, or Proviron, or Masteron, etc...)

 

[Smokescreen]

I have removed my posts on this thread. The reasons as to why are between me and Satch. Thank you! Please...continue with your posts to this great thread.

 

[khemix]

Satchums, here's my honest take:

Compairing your before pic to your after pics, i honestly don't think you look good enough to be making a thread about this 'story', ESPECIALLY for running 16 weeks of 1000mg of Primo! It really doesn't look like you gained 22lbs either, but thats through my eyes. If anything I think you look slightly smaller. Granted you lost a lot of bodyfat (which takes hard work, no doubt!), but you shouldn't look that much smaller if you gained 22lbs. Sure, you've got a vein or two popping out and they look great, just not to the degree I expected from the amount of drugs you involved.

I would expect someone who uses such a high dose of ANYTHING to look much better than you turned out. Maybe I was expecting more out of you?

Also what weighs heavily into it is the cost. Not everyone is rolling in money and has $2000 to spend on a single compound that only did that to you. You give me $2k for cycles and I'll gurantee I will look bigger, better, and more ripped than you did. The ONLY reason I can think of someone dropping that kind of cash is if they were completely terrified of side effects or their body just can't handle anything and needs a safer compound that will still yield moderate results.

I'm looking at it the logical way. The most cost effective, gain yielding aspect.

I in no way mean to offend or disrespect you and I'm most definantly not ripping on you. You look good, but not for the amount of drugs you take.

Chris

 

[satchboogie]

i knew the HATERS will get a hard on when they see this thread.
but fuck em...

my next cycle is 1000mg per week.. never again will i touch another steroid other than primo!

next run, though, will try harder to cut up.
so less cals and more cardio!

shit.. i didnt even do any cardio on this cycle and STILL lost fat!


WHEN YOURE ON TOP OF THE WORLD, THEY'LL TRY TO THROW YOU DOWN.

 

[khemix]

i knew the HATERS will get a hard on when they see this thread.
but fuck em...

my next cycle is 1000mg per week.. never again will i touch another steroid other than primo!

next run, though, will try harder to cut up.
so less cals and more cardio!

shit.. i didnt even do any cardio on this cycle and STILL lost fat!

I'm not hating, I'm simply pointing out what seems very obvious, to me atleast. Someone with your training experience should not be using the amount you do. What are you gonna do after this coming cycle? 1200mg? Then 1400mg? Theres just too much drugs involved man, and you put too much emphasis on them.

 

[satchboogie]

I'm not hating, I'm simply pointing out what seems very obvious, to me atleast. Someone with your training experience should not be using the amount you do. What are you gonna do after this coming cycle? 1200mg? Then 1400mg? Theres just too much drugs involved man, and you put too much emphasis on them.

bro i hear ya completely..
and yes i did gain about 22 pounds of lean body mass!!!!

as far as the dose being high..
you do realize that i had an agenda runnin primo at 1000mg a week.

it had never been done before and i was curious to what it would do!

i can show you more before pics bro if youd like.
the transformation was seriously AMAZING and im not tryina push anything here!!!

thanks bro i appreciate your feedback.

 

[Outtlaw]

I'm not hating, I'm simply pointing out what seems very obvious, to me atleast. Someone with your training experience should not be using the amount you do. What are you gonna do after this coming cycle? 1200mg? Then 1400mg? Theres just too much drugs involved man, and you put too much emphasis on them.

It's not that, but when you use something like primo you have to do those kind of doses to get the similar effect like you would on other compounds. Show me the guy who's blowing up on the 500mg primo only cycle and I'll give them serious props.

 

[khemix]

It's not that, but when you use something like primo you have to do those kind of doses to get the similar effect like you would on other compounds. Show me the guy who's blowing up on the 500mg primo only cycle and I'll give them serious props.

Good point, primo is just a weaker drug.

I suppose the reason I'm bothered by this situation is the fact that he's using so much gear after working out for such a little amount of time. Hell, I had worked out longer than he has by 11th grade! And STILL take less drugs than him!

I'm also tired of him advocating primo so much and trying to make it seem like a wonder drug, that it will do all the work for you and all that shit. I'm worried about a bunch of nieve newbies thinking that primo is the one and only drug. That it will shred off all your bodyfat while adding so much mass, and that simply isn't the case! Primo is a rather weak steroid, plain and simple. Thats the reason is has so few side-effects and has to be taken in such high doses to get moderate results.

I've never seen someone advocate primo in a such a way, and I think I know why.

You motherfuckers here on elite constantly tell people to build a good base before you juice, and seriously emphasize how important that really is, and look at him! You are contradicting everything you guys say by cheering him on with his abuse! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would consider a 2.5yr training history and using 1000mg's of ANY single compound abuse. It doesn't matter if you have an agenda because you dont KNOW OF ANYONE who has done it before, its still abuse!

Again, no offense satchums, you're a great guy and nice and respectful to everyone, I'm simply defending my reasoning, I suppose you could say. I don't mean to disrespect you if thats how you take it. I just honestly believe I have a good point.

Chris

 

[thelion2005]

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[satchboogie]

KHEMIX...

you do have a valid point and im glad you brought it up!

1000mg primo isnt the same as 1000mg deca or 1000mg test.
its weaker!
but very effective!

would i recommend such dose to a newbie? NO FUCKIN WAY!

i think that 500mg a week should be just fine!
the point was that primo ALONE will yield amazing results without var,winny, or test!!

and such point i proved.. at least to myself!

 

[khemix]

KHEMIX...

you do have a valid point and im glad you brought it up!

1000mg primo isnt the same as 1000mg deca or 1000mg test.
its weaker!
but very effective!

would i recommend such dose to a newbie? NO FUCKIN WAY!

i think that 500mg a week should be just fine!
the point was that primo ALONE will yield amazing results without var,winny, or test!!

and such point i proved.. at least to myself!

Great reply bro, I'm surprised you didn't get pissed like most bitches on here

You did get good results, but I suppose I'm cheap and prefer the crazy veins tren helps give me. Most other simple cycles will yield very similar results, but likely a few more side effects and cost much less. I guess I'm just ranting and raving cause I got absolutely exceptional gains on simple test and tren with very very minimal sides. I just can't justify spending that kind of money...hell...I'd rather drop $2k into my crotch rocket and drop $350 on a cycle!

Chris

 

[LVTitan]

No offense buddy, but you are only 145lbs soaking wet. I am 230lbs at 5'10''. Keep doing your Primo only cycles!

none taken , but for the record i was bone dry when i clocked in at 145 yesterday !! and i've only done a primo only once, and it was cut short due to other circumstances. everyone who knows me already knows that deca is my compound of choice. if there were only one gear i could take for the rest of my life it would be deca. i'm just saying i would not mind giving the primo challenge a run to see the results, i dont think i would be disappointed.

it would take me many years of sauce to get up around 200lbs, i'm just a hair over 5 7" and to be honest i think i'd be happy in the 160-170 range, other than that i would look freaky for sure.

 

[LVTitan]

Lets see you post some before and after pics of your progress on this site where thousands of people can view it! It is getting old watching you make posts like this. Satch has the balls to do this, and you have to respect him for it. I think most of us would agree that he looks very good for the short time he has been bodybuilding. I am sure as he gains more experience in the gym his gains will get even better. It takes a long time to learn what works best for your body.

DTTB has posted his pics here before many times, and i'd say he looks better than most here. carth and satch included

 

[quadkilla31]

Good point, primo is just a weaker drug.

I suppose the reason I'm bothered by this situation is the fact that he's using so much gear after working out for such a little amount of time. Hell, I had worked out longer than he has by 11th grade! And STILL take less drugs than him!

I'm also tired of him advocating primo so much and trying to make it seem like a wonder drug, that it will do all the work for you and all that shit. I'm worried about a bunch of nieve newbies thinking that primo is the one and only drug. That it will shred off all your bodyfat while adding so much mass, and that simply isn't the case! Primo is a rather weak steroid, plain and simple. Thats the reason is has so few side-effects and has to be taken in such high doses to get moderate results.

I've never seen someone advocate primo in a such a way, and I think I know why.

You motherfuckers here on elite constantly tell people to build a good base before you juice, and seriously emphasize how important that really is, and look at him! You are contradicting everything you guys say by cheering him on with his abuse! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would consider a 2.5yr training history and using 1000mg's of ANY single compound abuse. It doesn't matter if you have an agenda because you dont KNOW OF ANYONE who has done it before, its still abuse!

Again, no offense satchums, you're a great guy and nice and respectful to everyone, I'm simply defending my reasoning, I suppose you could say. I don't mean to disrespect you if thats how you take it. I just honestly believe I have a good point.

Chris

Nicely said. Straight to the point. Totally agree.

 

[small but working on it]

none taken , but for the record i was bone dry when i clocked in at 145 yesterday !! and i've only done a primo only once, and it was cut short due to other circumstances. everyone who knows me already knows that deca is my compound of choice. if there were only one gear i could take for the rest of my life it would be deca. i'm just saying i would not mind giving the primo challenge a run to see the results, i dont think i would be disappointed.

it would take me many years of sauce to get up around 200lbs, i'm just a hair over 5 7" and to be honest i think i'd be happy in the 160-170 range, other than that i would look freaky for sure.

Always remember bro, most of us like that FREAKY look ya know. I know some here dont but most of us would love to be huge like that. I love that look personally Cheers

 

[Little Boy]

Good point, primo is just a weaker drug.
You motherfuckers here on elite constantly tell people to build a good base before you juice, and seriously emphasize how important that really is, and look at him! You are contradicting everything you guys say by cheering him on with his abuse! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would consider a 2.5yr training history and using 1000mg's of ANY single compound abuse. It doesn't matter if you have an agenda because you dont KNOW OF ANYONE who has done it before, its still abuse!
Chris

Funny how that happens here huh? I've noticed the same thing.

It depends who's popular and liked, etc. If some random newb signed up and said he was lifting for a year and wanted to take a gram of juice, everyone would bash the hell out of him.

No disrespect to Satch or anyone here.....just saying, the hypocrites are lame.

 

[khemix]

Funny how that happens here huh? I've noticed the same thing.

It depends who's popular and liked, etc. If some random newb signed up and said he was lifting for a year and wanted to take a gram of juice, everyone would bash the hell out of him.

No disrespect to Satch or anyone here.....just saying, the hypocrites are lame.

So true my friend. It's a shame things are like this, its pathetic.

 

[viciousness]

Indeed a shame but wtf can ya do about it yannow, hypocrites will always be around............

 

[_Yossarian_]

none taken , but for the record i was bone dry when i clocked in at 145 yesterday !! and i've only done a primo only once, and it was cut short due to other circumstances. everyone who knows me already knows that deca is my compound of choice. if there were only one gear i could take for the rest of my life it would be deca. i'm just saying i would not mind giving the primo challenge a run to see the results, i dont think i would be disappointed.

it would take me many years of sauce to get up around 200lbs, i'm just a hair over 5 7" and to be honest i think i'd be happy in the 160-170 range, other than that i would look freaky for sure.

umm, dude...you're really only 145lbs and that's after gear???

 

[satchboogie]

Funny how that happens here huh? I've noticed the same thing.

It depends who's popular and liked, etc. If some random newb signed up and said he was lifting for a year and wanted to take a gram of juice, everyone would bash the hell out of him.

No disrespect to Satch or anyone here.....just saying, the hypocrites are lame.

what if this newbie was 230 pounds at 7% bf.
would he still get bashed for 1g juice???

 

[gjohnson5]

Satchboogie , It's now K TIME!

 

[gjohnson5]

Damn , that ended pretty quick , but I think Khemix and little boy have a point. You haven't been training long enough Satch. I've been training since 6th grade and I'm 32! You need to learn hypertrophy, 5x5, and maybe some dinosaur work to build those legs. Gt a good diet and maybe the drugs will work better for ya

 

[khemix]

what if this newbie was 230 pounds at 7% bf.
would he still get bashed for 1g juice???

You've dropped 3% since the contest pics???

 

[gjohnson5]

K time now resumes...

 

[gjohnson5]

And K Time will need to resume tomorrow.
Khemix... lightup tough guy

As far as the 3% , that's diet and I have yet to see a posted diet in terms of calories , macronutients in percentages, and timings. Meaning how many and what type of calories at breakfast , lunch , afternoon snack, before and after workout , bed time.