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That Nagging Gut

Kabeetz

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I know a ton of people have a problem with this and have asked this question but I need help...

I have been cutting hard for about 3 months... I am 6'1.5", on December 1st I was 214 pounds I am now 183. I have actually gained muscle in the process, or actually seen major improvements in strength and also muscle hardness and vascularity. However, though the measurements are shrinking.. I feel as though I am gettign too skinny and still not seeing any major ab results. I see some rib shadow when I raise my hands in the air, but the gut is flabby still.

I have to get this by summer, I'll do whatever it takes with regards to gym work, cardio and diet.

I just feel a tremendous sense of plateau the last couple weeks....

Please help with any advise.
 
^^ What our neigborhood Bunny said :)

And/Or... after you've dieted RIGHT for months, ran your ass off, and lifted the weight of the world.... GH (growth hormone) melts fat... must be taken for 3 months at least for results though. Do some research on it. Don't ask here cuz it's the "Diet Forum."
 
If you have been cutting "hard" as you put it, and progress has stalled for a while, it may be time for a break. The body is smart, and will percieve what it determines at some point as starvation, and will slow metabolism, thyroid output therefore, etc. to offset this.

You may need to take a week and up your calories 10% or so toward your prior maintenance, and "reset" your metabolism. Then hit the diet again.
 
Lifterforlife said:
If you have been cutting "hard" as you put it, and progress has stalled for a while, it may be time for a break. The body is smart, and will percieve what it determines at some point as starvation, and will slow metabolism, thyroid output therefore, etc. to offset this.

You may need to take a week and up your calories 10% or so toward your prior maintenance, and "reset" your metabolism. Then hit the diet again.
Maybe even a good carb rotation will help ;)
 
*Bunny* said:

My diet is very strict and simple...

8:45 am (as soon as I jump out of the shower) 2 eggs 2 slice of whole wheat toast

12pm Lean Turkey or Chicken breast burger (from lean ground breast), on whole wheat, 1 light dannon or columbo yogurt

3pm 1 servingEither Cashews or peanuts (unsalted) OR cottage cheese, two slices whole wheat or 1 serving oatmeal

5:20pm - 7:20pm gym

7:30pm - Protein shake consisting of(2 servings designers, 1 serving ANPB [if did not eat peanuts at 3pm], 1 light yogurt, 1 serving glutamine)

8:30 pm - Steak, chicken or turkey burger on whole wheat

Lots and lots of water throughout the day, no soda or anything else

bed

If anything I am eating too little..I am certainly not eating too much I think?
 
At a quick glance you are not eating enough cals. Loose the whole wheat and replace with sweet potato or ezekiel bread. Loose the the anpb pwo stick with just whey and dextrose or maltodextrin or a combo of both. Start eating veggies. There are NO veggies in there at all. Start eating way more veggies or green salad. Put your stats in pincota calculator and find out how many cals you need. Figure out how many onces of meat you are eating in each meal. It just says Steak, chicken or turkey burger, that could be 4oz or 8oz big difference in cals there.
 
Kabeetz said:
My diet is very strict and simple...

8:45 am (as soon as I jump out of the shower) 2 eggs 2 slice of whole wheat toast **... drop/limit the bread, maybe add oatmeal for carb source?

12pm Lean Turkey or Chicken breast burger (from lean ground breast), on whole wheat, 1 light dannon or columbo yogurt **... drop the yogurt & bread, add better carb source, brown rice, sweet tater? Maybe simply a small granny smith apple or green veggie

3pm 1 serving Either Cashews or peanuts (unsalted) OR cottage cheese, two slices whole wheat or 1 serving oatmeal **what kind of oatmeal? Old fashion slow cooked or instant? ... Use raw almonds or walnuts in place of nut choice ... again drop the bread, add better carb source, brown rice, sweet tater, etc .. but I wouldnt eat the carb with the fat, maybe eat the carb source at 12, eat the serving of nuts here with a Protein source ... there is a 4 1/2 hour break til your next meal, the fat will help keep you full or you can maybe munch on a small granny smith apple before training

5:20pm - 7:20pm gym

7:30pm - Protein shake consisting of(2 servings designers, 1 serving ANPB [if did not eat peanuts at 3pm], 1 light yogurt, 1 serving glutamine) **... drop the yogurt, are you adding to shake? May sub fresh berries instead in needed, blue/rasp/strawberries

8:30 pm - Steak, chicken or turkey burger on whole wheat **... drop the bread, .. is meat processed? add green veggie

Lots and lots of water throughout the day, no soda or anything else
**... Great :) I drink 2 gallons minimum a day :jarswim:
bed

If anything I am eating too little..I am certainly not eating too much I think? **... enter cals into cal counter for basic breakdown ... www.fitday.com is free
Suggestions in red, with the goal of cutting and cleaing up to get over the plateau & lose Gut ... There is nothing wrong with some nuts, breads & yogurt, they have their place, but see what happens if you drop them ... maybe it will be the help you need. Add veggies somewhere... green ones, broc, green beans, spinach , etc.
 
*Bunny* said:
Suggestions in red, with the goal of cutting and cleaing up to get over the plateau & lose Gut ... There is nothing wrong with some nuts, breads & yogurt, they have their place, but see what happens if you drop them ... maybe it will be the help you need. Add veggies somewhere... green ones, broc, green beans, spinach , etc.

Good stuff!
 
I appreciate your help and input all, I will work on modding my diet and post some revisions tonight or early tomorrow and then let u know how I am doing through next week.

To answer some quick questions.. the meat is 4oz-5oz (I create the patties myself from lean ground meat, usually a 1.25 pound package divided by 5 or a 1 pound divided into 4)...

I did the yoghurt and whole wheat bread so much because its so easy..the veggies and brown rice involve a lot more prep and doing pots/pans/tupperware(i dont have a dishwasher and work two jobs/go to school so i carry a giant bag around with all my meals all day) but I will make the extra effort if it will get the results I want. I'll definitely check out the calculators suggested and modify calories accordingly.

I appreciate ur help. I will have a six pack for the first time in my life this summer.... bottom line.
 
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