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Texas Monsters's Monster Cycle Log

Texas Monster

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Hey Guys,

The time is here. Starting Monday I will be starting my new cycle.

Now fair warning this is going to be a Texas sized cycle and is not for the weak willed. Definitely an advanced cycle.

Stats:
Age 26, Weight 240 HT 6,1 BF 10% ( Got it back down before the cycle)
Cycles: Anavar and winstrol cycles, test prop and anavar cycles, tren e, deca, test c, anadrol, and have experience with the longer and shorter cycles.

Pre-bloods:
Test 750
The rest of the values came back in normal range: estro, shgb, prolactin, tsh, creatinine, bun, cholesterol, psa, liver enzymes, blood sugar ranges, blood pressure 110:70

Training:
I train instinctively so I really dont stick to a certain split. I always do something new or switch up my routines to always make gains and not settle for stale days in the gym. For the most part though I will train each body part once a week. Most of the time that will be a 5 day split and some weeks I will have a 3 day split.

Lifting stats:
Bench 365x10
Squat 495x10
Deadlift 585x10

Diet:
I will be anywhere from 3000-5000 calories a day. I know how to listen to my body though and know when to adjust my macros accordingly to match where to fill out and where to cut up. Protein is always high, fats are low to moderate and I match my carbs to my training and intensity. I know how to listen to my body and know how to use carbs really effectively. All my meals will be whole clean foods: chicken, lean beef, turkey, egg whites, oatmeal, beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes, pineapples, apples, almonds, almond butter, whey protein, non fat plain greek yogurt, broccoli, asparagus, etc etc.

Cycle:
Now due to availability there will be a slight change to my cycle plan: I will be using Test c, Test prop, EQ, NPP and Anavar.

Week 1-20 EQ 600mg
Week 1-10 Npp 600mg
Week 1-20 Test c 300 mg
Week 11-20 Mast e 600mg
Week 21-26 Test prop 150 mg eod
Week 21-26 Anavar 60mg

Week 1-10 Prami
Week 1-26 Aromasin 12.5mg eod ( adjust to sides and blood work)
Week 21-26 N2gaurd

HCG/HMG/HCGenerate:

Will blast hcg at 1000 ius a week for 5 weeks on and 5 weeks off during cycle. Then hcgenerate between the 5 weeks blast.

Before PCT HCG 500ius e3d for 4 weeks. HMG 4-6 shots at 75 ius the last 3 weeks.

PCT:

Week 27-28
Clomid 50/50
HCGenerate
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
n2slin
DAA
PCT+UNLeased

Week 29-30
Clomid 25/25
Forma 5 pumps am and pm
PCT+Unleashed
DAA

Week 31-32
Bridge
Forma 3 pumps am and pm
DAA

Week 33-34
Bridge
DAA

Week 35-38
Phytoserms 347

It is time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
you trying to do a show?

that is a seriously long ass cycle.

Just my opinion but I think your test may be a little low with the NPP @ 600. I would just keep an eye out for libido issues, because even tho it isn't the deconate ester doesn't mean it wont immediately murder your gonads. I do see your hcg/hmg/hcgenerate combo there...but I think those first 10 weeks might be difficult.

that is purely theoretical....and you have obviously done your research, so props to you....now I know how to properly start a thread!
Looks awesome tho.....over half the year! man you been savin up for this one
 
Holy phuck bro! Congrats on those stats man I'd be happy if I could do that in ten years time! Def gonna be keeping an eye on this one, good luck
 
Now that's what I am talking about! I like the test where it is... Too much test without GH and you are just going to look bloated unless you are one of the lucky ones. TM not afraid of a big boy cycle!


55 and still fucking dangerous
 
Now that's what I am talking about! I like the test where it is... Too much test without GH and you are just going to look bloated unless you are one of the lucky ones. TM not afraid of a big boy cycle!


55 and still fucking dangerous


Lol. I love oldhead. Like I said, better to check out all buffed in everything than to check out looking like a little b*tch!

I'm in too.. Would love to see pictures of this Texas Monster.
 
I will be throwing up some lifting pics in the next few weeks.

As far as the test dosage I have done higher and lower amounts of test with deca and tren and honestly I have felt little to no difference from running test higher than 400. 500 and above is about the same for me but I get a lot more estrogen. When I stack my Nandralones higher I still do not have labido issues because I keep my progesterone in check.

I will be prepping for a show doing a few npc contests coming through Texas.

Oh and I forgot to mention while I will be with these dosages........I will be pinning on MWF. So for the first ten weeks that is 1ml npp 1ml eq and .4 ml test. Then the next ten weeks is 1ml EQ 1ml Masteron and .4 ml test. Then the last 6 weeks is just 1.5 ml eod.

Now only did I think about the dosages in regards to my stats and goals but I thought a lot about on how much oil I will be injecting as well since this will be a longer cycle.
 
Nice bro looking forward to seeing your progress, although you are already a monster.
 
Thanks Bro... Tell you what I am the biggest most shredded old fuck at the retirement community pool. Just trying to get the old lady panties wet. I know my audience.


55 and still fucking dangerous
 
Thanks Bro... Tell you what I am the biggest most shredded old fuck at the retirement community pool. Just trying to get the old lady panties wet. I know my audience.


55 and still fucking dangerous

Idk why you are still going for the older women when you could easily take care of a few younger broads with some daddy issues. LOL
 
I will be throwing up some lifting pics in the next few weeks.

As far as the test dosage I have done higher and lower amounts of test with deca and tren and honestly I have felt little to no difference from running test higher than 400. 500 and above is about the same for me but I get a lot more estrogen. When I stack my Nandralones higher I still do not have labido issues because I keep my progesterone in check.

I will be prepping for a show doing a few npc contests coming through Texas.

Oh and I forgot to mention while I will be with these dosages........I will be pinning on MWF. So for the first ten weeks that is 1ml npp 1ml eq and .4 ml test. Then the next ten weeks is 1ml EQ 1ml Masteron and .4 ml test. Then the last 6 weeks is just 1.5 ml eod.

Now only did I think about the dosages in regards to my stats and goals but I thought a lot about on how much oil I will be injecting as well since this will be a longer cycle.


I hear you on that oil shit! ive done two seperate shots MWF before when I was using Prop. Looks like a badass cycle tho man.

If you are doing a show though, I would consider revising it a little bit. Depends on when your shows are at during that cycle, but only a suggestion here....

1.Up the Var to 80mg
2.Keep the Mast E and the Var together (so either start it later, or switch to mast prop 21-26)
3. Throw out the EQ at 16/18 weeks for Tren
4. And since you said you like your test on the lower side....why not keep the prop @ 100EOD...


just some thoughts.....might have to come check you out at these shows. i live in LA
 
Yeah I am gonna stay away from tren because even though it is great it gives me bad shoulder acne and I can not have that in the show.

I might consider running the mast a little later with the inclusion of mast prop with the var test prop. I react well to the 150mg eod dosage for prop though and will stick with that. As far as the var goes I can not tell any difference between 60mg and 80mg but my liver can.
 
Monday First Day of Pinning.........Not too much of a difference but can definately feel tighter in my lifts than I did last week.

Pumped for whats to come.

Chest Workout
Incline barbell:
135x25
225x15
315x10
335x8
355x7

Db Flat bench
80x15
90x12
110x10
130x8

Decline hammer strength
3x20x280

Dips
3x15

Cable fly
4x20

Ab circuit x 3
Oblique crunches x 30
weighted crunches x 20
Russian Twists x 20
 
Monday First Day of Pinning.........Not too much of a difference but can definately feel tighter in my lifts than I did last week.

Pumped for whats to come.

Chest Workout
Incline barbell:
135x25
225x15
315x10
335x8
355x7

Db Flat bench
80x15
90x12
110x10
130x8

Decline hammer strength
3x20x280

Dips
3x15

Cable fly
4x20

Ab circuit x 3
Oblique crunches x 30
weighted crunches x 20
Russian Twists x 20

That's a monster incline bench :)
 
Cant believe I missed this. I'm in for sure. Love the cycle layout bro.

If I had to say one thing...well...two things.... 1) I'd use some N2slin during cycle. I think you could really take advantage of it to help pack on even more mass.
2) I'd add Ipamorelin in there too. 100mcg a.m. and pre bed. Right through the end of PCT.

But thats your call. Love the layout and looking forward to pre cycle pics.
 
Cant believe I missed this. I'm in for sure. Love the cycle layout bro.

If I had to say one thing...well...two things.... 1) I'd use some N2slin during cycle. I think you could really take advantage of it to help pack on even more mass.
2) I'd add Ipamorelin in there too. 100mcg a.m. and pre bed. Right through the end of PCT.

But thats your call. Love the layout and looking forward to pre cycle pics.

I never thought about using N2slin on cycle and was just gonna use that post cycle to help keep gains. As far as Ipamorelin I have not done too much research into it but I will be on for a while so there is a possibility.

Thanks for the advice!!!!!!
 
Yeah I am gonna stay away from tren because even though it is great it gives me bad shoulder acne and I can not have that in the show.

I might consider running the mast a little later with the inclusion of mast prop with the var test prop. I react well to the 150mg eod dosage for prop though and will stick with that. As far as the var goes I can not tell any difference between 60mg and 80mg but my liver can.

yea tren can fuck with your cardio too.
I would def think about the mast. It would be great to have the mast var combo heading right into the show.

good luck though man! Looks good and you have thought it out pretty well.
 
Today Was Back DAy!!!!!!!!!!! Had some sick back pumps and it felt like someone tied a 2x4 to my back hahahahaha

TM's Back Bomb:

Lat Pulls:
135x25
200x12
240x10
285x8
Drop Set

Straight arm pull overs
3x20x100

Dead Lift:
3x10x405 (with shrug lift at top)

Bar bent over Row
3x10x275

Close Grip Cable Row
3x10x220

Super Set
Trap Pulls
DB Rear Pulls

Hyper extensions
3x50
 
I never thought about using N2slin on cycle and was just gonna use that post cycle to help keep gains. As far as Ipamorelin I have not done too much research into it but I will be on for a while so there is a possibility.

Thanks for the advice!!!!!!

If you ever need any ipam help or info just shoot me a pm.

As for the n2slin, my thoughts were using it in almost the same way one would use real slin pre workout then amonios, carbs intra w/o ect..... But obviously its a lot safer. Just something to think about bro. Any good insulin manipulation win all that AAS (especially with a gh peptide added) will just be extra bonuses.
 
Yeah I was thinking about adding in some igf and some other peptides as well.......Just not sure on which ones to add.

And yeah I am not going to ever take slin just because of the risks greatly outway the benefits and have had some guys collapse on me in the gym from going into a coma after taking to much of it......just to scary
 
Yeah I was thinking about adding in some igf and some other peptides as well.......Just not sure on which ones to add.

And yeah I am not going to ever take slin just because of the risks greatly outway the benefits and have had some guys collapse on me in the gym from going into a coma after taking to much of it......just to scary

Right. Which is why I suggested trying the same concept but with supps. The new supp Nelson help put out recently, super pump I think....would also fit into that equasion.
 
peptide-wise you could look at GW for sure.....just insanely helps the cardio.

is need2slin a supplemental insulin 'clone' for lack of a better word, or does it help deal with insulin sensitivity for dieting purposes?
Just curious....
 
Forgot to post on wednesday.................

Leg Workout:
Leg Extensions
4x20
Drop set

Squat
225x10
315x10
405x10
Drop Set (Starting at 495)

Leg Press
3 working sets
Heaviest weight 1600
Drop set

Ham culrs
4x20

Bar lunges
4x40 yards

Thursday
Shoulders:

Cable Rear Delt
6 sets 3 different angles (rep range 15-30)

Db rear delt fly
2x20

Standing Arny Presses
55x10
75x10
100x10

Standing db upright row
3x10x100

Superset:
Db rear delt row
DB side row

Bar shrug
2x36x225 (Head in 3 different positions)

Flies till you die: on lat fly machine
50x50
40x75
30x100
20x110
10x115

Complete Muscle Failure:

My weight is already up 1 pound. No bloating at all.

The plan for next week is to change the split order and decrease intensity. Gonna give my body the deload time in order to grow. Main focus next week will be on tension and just achieving a nice solid pump.
 
So Friday I did Arms.......................Tricep Rope, Cable Curls 3 Ways, Weighted Dips, Bar Culrs, Incline Skull Crusher, Incline Curls, Preacher Machine, Hercules Curls, and Cable Kick Backs......insane Pump.

My weight is up 2.5 pounds in the first week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love that I am jump starting this cycle just with straight oils. The NPP is filling me out very nicely and since I am on a low dose of test I have no bloat. It is still the first week but I can definitely feel the rush coming on.

My Diet Has been on point every Day. 3500-4000 calories every day. Today I had my refeed day with steak and sweet potatoes!!!!!!! So the Calories jumped to around 4500-5000.

Gonna change my routine again next week. It will be a 3 on and 1 off schedule to help fill out my back and traps a little bit more.

Day 1 Delts and Traps
Day 2 Chest
Day 3 Back (width)
Day 4 off
Day 5 Legs
Day 6 Back (Thickness)
Day 7 Arms
Day 8 Off
Repeat

Then after this I will drop down into a 2 on 1 off and work the comp muscles.

Example
Day 1 Chest
Day 2 Back
Day 3 off
Day 4 Legs
Day 5 Shoulders
Day 6 off
Day 7 Arms
Day 8 Calves Abs
Day 9 OFF

Still keeping at least 7 days between body parts just trying to mix up my rest days to keep up with the muscle confusion.
 
I am digging the log Texas, I like how your keeping the muscles guessing I may need to change things up a little more.. Keep killing it I'm interested to see what the next few weeks bring ::)!
 
I post very little on this site, but this log has me captivated!! I will never attempt anything like this but I respectfully applaud your dedication. Your cycle would and should make most into a monster but your knowledge and instinctive training techniques is what will set you apart. I wish I could offer some advice but as your growing, Im learning. Good luck brother. Im rooting for you.
 
Quick Update...............

The NPP is in full kick. I have experience with peaking levels of deca and I can allready feel the full effects of the npp. I am getting insane pumps already and it is only the end of the 2nd week.

My weight has stayed right around 242 but My bf has dropped i would say around 1 %.

Pictures are soon to come.
 
Thought I would make an update............

This morning I weighed in at 246......that is 6 pounds in 3 weeks!!!!! And they are quality gains. I notice that my endurance has increased exponentially and my strength gains are slowly upping.

On top of all this I am starting to get some nice definition along my back and legs. Body fat is down another half percent this week. Idk where another 23 weeks is gonna take me.

Pictures will be soon. Have patience. I am waiting to when I can have someone take pics of me so that I can get critiqued correctly ie pointing out lagging body parts etc. I don't want to have just the typical ( no offense ) Dylan side arm front shot because that does not show the whole package so to speak. It is good for estimating bf percentage but not good for judging on symmetry, proportions, definition versus other body parts etc.
 
Yeah me either. Sounds huge!


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Thought I would make an update............

This morning I weighed in at 246......that is 6 pounds in 3 weeks!!!!! And they are quality gains. I notice that my endurance has increased exponentially and my strength gains are slowly upping.

On top of all this I am starting to get some nice definition along my back and legs. Body fat is down another half percent this week. Idk where another 23 weeks is gonna take me.

Pictures will be soon. Have patience. I am waiting to when I can have someone take pics of me so that I can get critiqued correctly ie pointing out lagging body parts etc. I don't want to have just the typical ( no offense ) Dylan side arm front shot because that does not show the whole package so to speak. It is good for estimating bf percentage but not good for judging on symmetry, proportions, definition versus other body parts etc.

Yea i definitely agree on the picture aspect. Especially when competing, you have to be able to get a good look at every bodypart from a few different angles. Not sure how experienced you are with posing, but just make sure you use the same room and stand in the same place each time bc lighting changes everything. And if u can get ur hands on some pro tan, its what i used on stage, but its messy. Jergens makes a lotion called natural glow. And it tans you without goin to the tanning bed. Im red haired and freckled, so u can only imagine the issues i had with color lol.

Id be glad to help you out with your posing if you want. If im overstepping my boundries, i apologize. Im just very enthusiastic about bodybuilding. And im injured right now, so i cant compete myself and that just makes me wanna help others out. Good luck Tex
 
Yea i definitely agree on the picture aspect. Especially when competing, you have to be able to get a good look at every bodypart from a few different angles. Not sure how experienced you are with posing, but just make sure you use the same room and stand in the same place each time bc lighting changes everything. And if u can get ur hands on some pro tan, its what i used on stage, but its messy. Jergens makes a lotion called natural glow. And it tans you without goin to the tanning bed. Im red haired and freckled, so u can only imagine the issues i had with color lol.

Id be glad to help you out with your posing if you want. If im overstepping my boundries, i apologize. Im just very enthusiastic about bodybuilding. And im injured right now, so i cant compete myself and that just makes me wanna help others out. Good luck Tex

I already have help in that department! Thanks though.......

I still have a few weeks though before I have to shave down, tan, etc............
 
I already have help in that department! Thanks though.......

I still have a few weeks though before I have to shave down, tan, etc............

I hate shaving my legs( i dont compete). It looks great but its such a pain in the ass to get everything. But then I always look like a freak because i refuse to shave my ass because it fucking breaks out terrible.
 
So everything is still going well........

I am still slowly gaining and my strength is up in the gym every day. My vascularity is starting to be a lot more noticeable just resting during the day......

I have run into one problem though......

I feel very lethargic during the daytime. Like I have to have a 90 minute nap anywhere from 2-4 pm during the day.

I sleep 8+ hours during the night.
I have tried taking my prami in the am and pm.
I have added in extra rest time ( currently on two on 1 off split) ps fucking love this split!!!!! Get killer pumps
I have tweaked my diet by adjusting macros plus/minus.
I have even tried supplementing with extra vitamins

Has anyone else ran into this problem before? Is it because maybe my test dosage is not high enough? Even though I think I am running it at the perfect dose ( Bumped it up to currently 1.5 ml a week 375 mg)

Is there anything else I can do? Maybe take a 4-5 day lay off? But I am making too many gains right now to be close to a lay off period.

In my years of BB I have never experienced this before.
 
Run by me what compounds and doses youre running and maybe i can help out some. Dont remember if ur running tren, i think its deca though. But if its tren then that may be why
 
So everything is still going well........

I am still slowly gaining and my strength is up in the gym every day. My vascularity is starting to be a lot more noticeable just resting during the day......

I have run into one problem though......

I feel very lethargic during the daytime. Like I have to have a 90 minute nap anywhere from 2-4 pm during the day.

I sleep 8+ hours during the night.
I have tried taking my prami in the am and pm.
I have added in extra rest time ( currently on two on 1 off split) ps fucking love this split!!!!! Get killer pumps
I have tweaked my diet by adjusting macros plus/minus.
I have even tried supplementing with extra vitamins

Has anyone else ran into this problem before? Is it because maybe my test dosage is not high enough? Even though I think I am running it at the perfect dose ( Bumped it up to currently 1.5 ml a week 375 mg)

Is there anything else I can do? Maybe take a 4-5 day lay off? But I am making too many gains right now to be close to a lay off period.

In my years of BB I have never experienced this before.

How old are you bro? I noticed at even mid 30's with good natty test levels a nap can be had at any time during the day if i were to dedicate 60 seconds to trying to fall asleep.
Adding AAS to this regardless of age makes me tired.

Only other thing on a medical note...maybe the AAS is making your thyroid a tad sluggish. IF that were the case then a very nominal dose of T4 should help. Like 50mcg ED. (and no, its nothing like taking T3)
 
I am running NPP EQ TEST. I am 26.

I have never felt lethargic on deca or tren before. I am pretty sure it is just my body is wanting that extra time to grow.

I will go get a blood test to check on the thyroid but I am pretty sure that is not the case because I have ran deca and tren together without a t4 supplement and felt fine.

I am also suspecting that the culprit might be that my aromasin dosage might be too high.

I have been doing 12.5mg eod but I also have been doing 5-10 pumps of forma enbetween the days for extra ai protection. I am gonna drop the forma and see how I feel.
 
dude it could be the EQ.....
I no longer run EQ because of the RBC count going up and blood being thicker. I was always tired and had major anxiety on it.}
I would think this COULD be your problem.

but also yes probably stop the forma in between days.....and if you are still tired go to aromasin E3D but on that stack I wouldn't want to go too low with it.
But right now since you are growing and 'semi' bulking i would cut out the AI's as much as possible....that estrogen will help you grow and since you have prami you will be good to go. so def EOD or E3D w/ aromasin.

not sure how prami works, but you could be high on that doing it AM and PM....
but on the test aspect, how is your libido? Taking Hcg? I like higher test dosages.....I'd say try out going higher and see how it feels (but maybe try all the other aspects first before you do that)......

just some thoughts
 
dude it could be the EQ.....
I no longer run EQ because of the RBC count going up and blood being thicker. I was always tired and had major anxiety on it.}
I would think this COULD be your problem.

but also yes probably stop the forma in between days.....and if you are still tired go to aromasin E3D but on that stack I wouldn't want to go too low with it.
But right now since you are growing and 'semi' bulking i would cut out the AI's as much as possible....that estrogen will help you grow and since you have prami you will be good to go. so def EOD or E3D w/ aromasin.

not sure how prami works, but you could be high on that doing it AM and PM....
but on the test aspect, how is your libido? Taking Hcg? I like higher test dosages.....I'd say try out going higher and see how it feels (but maybe try all the other aspects first before you do that)......

just some thoughts

Eq has the same effect on me. I just can't use it
 
No I do not think it is the EQ............

I dropped the forma and today I felt like I had my energy back................I even did an awesome back workout and still went the whole day without needing a nap!

I am gonna just keep the aromasin at 12.5mg eod.

My labido is through the roof.........I fucked my girl so many times that we had to stop because I rubbed her raw hahahaha. She now has to wear sweat pants to bed with the tight pull strings on them because she knows I am going to do everything in my power to rip em off.

Prami is dosed .5mg eod in the am. I worked up to that dose though because the first week I felt like dog poop on it.

I am gonna up My test dose after I run out of NPP.
 
My labido is through the roof.........I fucked my girl so many times that we had to stop because I rubbed her raw hahahaha. She now has to wear sweat pants to bed with the tight pull strings on them because she knows I am going to do everything in my power to rip em off.

That's great lol.

Glad you got your energy back though.
 
Ok Guys so It is at the End of week 4.

The npp blew me up faster then I expected. I weighed in this morning at 250. So that is 10 pounds in 4 weeks. ( This is dry weight too after going to the bathroom.....not retaining water).

My training split is going right where I want it to go. Right now I am on a 2 on 1 off split. I filled my upper back out a little bit more to comp for my delts. I am trying to fill my arms out a little bit more now.

Day 1 Shoulders Arms
Day 2 Back
Day 3 off
Day 4 Chest Arms
Day 5 Legs
Day 6 off

I am going through my mini blast and prime phases for my diet. As an example.

Day 1 cals 4000 moderate to high carbs low fats
Day 2 cals 4000 moderate to high carbs low fats
Day 3 cals 2500-3000 very low carbs moderate to high fats

Just something I do to always keep my body in confusion. Not only in my training split but also with nutrition. Since I am "carb sensistive" this also helps on my training days to absorb all the carbs I can.

I will be on this schedule for another 2-3 weeks then I am gonna go back to my 5 on 2 off split, then 3 on 1 off, then 2 on 1 off.......There will be some deload weeks to come too for extra growth where I will do 1 cable exercise per body part 2x in that week and the rest of the days are low intensity yoga and cardio.

A few things that I am noticing though with this stack...........

My libido is perfectly fine even though I am running my test dosage "low".

My hunger has stayed at bay but still havent felt the full effects of EQ yet so maybe in a few weeks it will start to spike ( I have a healthy appetite anyways so IDGAF)
 
Today Is chest arms workout......and here is the road map

decline bench press
135
225
315
365
405

incline db press
100
110
120
140

cable flys
4x15

weighted dips
25xbody weight
45lb
90lb
135lb
180lb

close grip bench
225
275
315

tricep rope
3x15

barbell curls
4 working sets

preacher curls
3 working sets

cable curls
3 working sets

1 super set
tricep kick back
hammer curls

Idk how many reps i will be getting at the weights but I always aim for at least 8 maybe 6 if it is really heavy
 
Monster fucking lifts bro.

You're doing the 3 day diet split you posted in conjunction with your 2 on 1 off spit correct? Meaning your off day is the high fat day right?

Yes My "off" day is the day where I go a little bit higher on the fats.

But then again on my off day I am still in the gym getting my cardio and yoga on.

It will be just for this 3 week cycle though.....when I switch it up to the 5 on 2 off that is when I will have deplete days during the middle of my training.

This cycle is almost like a prep for when I start going low carb during the 5 on 2 off.

So as an example one of my weeks will look like this.

Day 1 chest
Day 2 legs
Day 3 shoulders
Day 4 back
Day 5 arms

As far as carbs go it will look like this

Day 1 low
day 2 high
day 3 low
day 4 high
day 5 high
day 6 low
day 7 very very very high

It all depends on how I am shaping out. Right now my delts are very overpowering so I will deplete on delt and chest day to help fill out in my legs and back more.

Then every other week to every 3 weeks will be a keto style 5-6 day deplete with a 1-2 day refeed.
 
Way too much deca/EQ for that lil bit of test.
 
So I started to notice that I looked a little bit bloaty today........I am thinking it is because this weekend I took in too much sodium. Had around 4-5 lbs of beef in a short amount of time due to super bowl.

So for this week I am going to really watch my sodium levels and see if the bloat goes down.

If the bloat does not go down I am looking at 2 options:

A) Drop the test dose
B) Up the AI dose

What do you guys think?

I might just be getting a little bit paranoid because I looked bloaty after a high sodium weekend because up to this point I have not noticed any bloat or sides like that.
 
I would give it a little bit of time. Your body may readjust.
i wouldn't do either of those options tho. because 1. your test dose is pretty low 2. you run the risk of getting tired again like you were

a little bloat isn't a bad thing...just keep your hormones consistent and don't make adjustments based off a couple of days.
and bloat would only be bad if you had too much estrogen or progesterone...but you are taking support supps to keep those down.

i notice that I bloat a little bit on the days off of Aromasin..............but I think that this is necessary to keep somewhat normal/constant estrogen levels (don't want to kill it all by taking it ED)
 
I would give it a little bit of time. Your body may readjust.
i wouldn't do either of those options tho. because 1. your test dose is pretty low 2. you run the risk of getting tired again like you were

a little bloat isn't a bad thing...just keep your hormones consistent and don't make adjustments based off a couple of days.
and bloat would only be bad if you had too much estrogen or progesterone...but you are taking support supps to keep those down.

i notice that I bloat a little bit on the days off of Aromasin..............but I think that this is necessary to keep somewhat normal/constant estrogen levels (don't want to kill it all by taking it ED)


Solid ok that is what I was looking for......gonna just keep the sodium down this next week or so and see what happens.

It was most likely too much sodium because today I feel it just slipping off so to speak.
 
Solid ok that is what I was looking for......gonna just keep the sodium down this next week or so and see what happens.

It was most likely too much sodium because today I feel it just slipping off so to speak.

Cool, well that is good news. Like i said the days I don't take aromasin I do feel bloated somewhat (not to the degree it would be if i werent taking it tho) and then the days I do take it I feel absolutely no bloat. killing E at 80 percent-ish on that day, makes me feel like the day off is necessary to allow your body to have some estrogen to function. just my own theory here....could be wrong tho....

you could watch your Blood pressure too tho....it may be a good indicator of estrogen or increased sodium intake. if it stays in a good range then it could be neither.
 
I have a bp monitor and check it quite frequently....but yeah when I get high estro I get all red in the face hahahah and high bp is definately up.

Yeah I agree with you on the days off enbetween to let some estrogen come back up.
 
Good luck with hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life and lifetime dialysis from kidney failure. I'm in medical and it's sad when I see people go overboard. Had a 30 year old in here for dialysis and testicular cancer from steroid abuse at a young age. He was a wreck. Just saying. You are going overboard IMO. And unless you are training for a pro sport, you are killing yourself
 
Good luck with hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life and lifetime dialysis from kidney failure. I'm in medical and it's sad when I see people go overboard. Had a 30 year old in here for dialysis and testicular cancer from steroid abuse at a young age. He was a wreck. Just saying. You are going overboard IMO. And unless you are training for a pro sport, you are killing yourself

Thanks I get my bloods checked frequently :)

Before this cycle I had everything come back fine......I have had extensive testing and am currently under the care of a physician.

I think it is cute that you worry about me though xoxox
 
Thanks I get my bloods checked frequently :)

Before this cycle I had everything come back fine......I have had extensive testing and am currently under the care of a physician.

I think it is cute that you worry about me though xoxox

Hey it's your life and your body. Most people don't thjnk they are hurting themselves until you are laying in ICU with all your organs shut down. It's not cute being on HRT for life or intubated brah
 
Hey it's your life and your body. Most people don't thjnk they are hurting themselves until you are laying in ICU with all your organs shut down. It's not cute being on HRT for life or intubated brah

What is the purpose of your posts in this thread? To raise awareness that one takes risks when using aas? You are wasting your time as the vast majority of users on this site are well aware of the potential risks, and Texas takes more precautionary measures than most I almost guarantee.
 
What is the purpose of your posts in this thread? To raise awareness that one takes risks when using aas? You are wasting your time as the vast majority of users on this site are well aware of the potential risks, and Texas takes more precautionary measures than most I almost guarantee.

Hey I wasn't the first to mention the intensity of his cycle. I'm just stating from seeing someone in their 20s in the hospital from steroid abuse and not knowing limits. Everyone on this board stresses experience and safety so why are you blasting me for talking about an actual example? So does me not telling you about the story of this kid not make you more cautious and aware of your steroid use? If it does then I got my point across. Plain and simple
 
Hey I wasn't the first to mention the intensity of his cycle. I'm just stating from seeing someone in their 20s in the hospital from steroid abuse and not knowing limits. Everyone on this board stresses experience and safety so why are you blasting me for talking about an actual example? So does me not telling you about the story of this kid not make you more cautious and aware of your steroid use? If it does then I got my point across. Plain and simple

Didn't mean to come across as " blasting you" but it felt as If you were going out of your way to put down Texas and his cycle even though he is well aware of what he is doing. That's all.
 
@ Luda

I am well aware of the potential risks of AAS use. I am well aware of the effect that it will have on me when I do get older and yes eventually I will probably need to be on HRT but come to think about it..........even if I do need HRT in my later years I would rather still be pumping those high levels of test and living life to the fullest rather be a limp body old aged man who cant even enjoy the skin of a beautiful women.

It is all about how you want to go out in life........some choose to live fast and die young while others are more conservative but the point is that we have our own paths.

And as far as your concern of my "over dosed" and "abusive" cycling....I think you would really shit your self if you knew what that this cycle wouldnt even constitute half of the amount of drugs that top top top name BB use today........

I know many IFFBB pros who workout in my gym and we talk openly about our AAS use.....kinda like how they did back in the old days when no one really gave a fuck and people could talk openly about it becasue we didnt have 19-20 year olds running around blasting 1g of tren ace and slin at the same time etc.

These pros I talk to have cycles that last year round and involve a lot higher dosages than what I am using. They also stack in HGH and slin too.......

Now I am fully aware of the effects of abusive cycling......that Is why I take full precaution by getting frequent blood tests and am under the care of a physician who is a family friend I pay under the table to keep the insurance company out of my ass......

Now this cycle log is not to promote my style of cycling......everyone is different and has different goals. This cycle fits me for what I am wanting to do.....

Ps I will be competing in the pros and my fellow athletes actually applaud me for being conservative with my compound and dosage choices.

Having said all of this if you want to stick around and see the results of this cycle log then be my guest......but if your only goal is to stay in this discussion thread just in a small hope to be captain hindsight then you are really taking away from the other subscribers that are here to help and learn along the way.

Again I appreciate your concern and input but you really need not to worry about me because I have all the cognative ability to know what is use and what is abuse......Thank you for your medical stories though.....( I have heard tons like them and that is why I cycle what I can handle)
 
Texas - I have a whole new respect for you after that last post. I've been reading along and enjoying the log but that post shows a level of maturity and understanding that this board needs more of. Thanks.
 
UPDATE TIME!!!!!!!!

Alright guys I am 5 weeks in and I can say in these 5 weeks I have noticed a very drastic change. Everything just feels tighter all the time.....my libido is through the roof......I am hitting on all cylinders so to speak.

I weighed in this morning at 255 and I got the little bit of bloat down that I had at the start of the week (approx 5 lbs).

I am very happy with the results so far. I have neted 3 lbs a week. Now I know about 5 is due to extra gylcogen and nutrient storage so I will say about 10 lbs lean muscle in 5 weeks. ( Cant be more satisfied).

Now I am coming into the 5,6 week mark I am going to be taking a mini lay off. I have noticed that even though I am feeling a lot tighter etc I have been not focusing on stretching as much as I need to be. I am very very flexible and the other day on my cardio and yoga day I tried a few positions and had a harder time getting to my end positions etc.

So in order to keep gaining I know I am going to have to give my tendons and cns a little break before blasting another 5-6 weeks. Now I am not taking time off in the gym. I am just taking some time to let my tendons and joints heal a little bit so they can burden the stress of even more muscle :) Think of it as prepping for more gains.

So the Next 3-4 days ( probably only 3...... I get the itch to lift bad) I am going to focus on nothing but my yoga, foam rolling, and cardio ( not too much though).

After this mini lay off my trainer and I have decided to put me back on the 3 on 1 off split because it is still a little bit too early to be hitting the 5 on 2 off.

My split will be like before where I hit back once in each rotation. Gonna flip the chest and shoulder days though to look something like this.

Day 1 chest
Day 2 Back (Thickness all out back bomb)
Day 3 Shoulders
Day 4 off
Day 5 Legs
Day 6 Back (width/ touch up/ tension exercises)
Day 7 Arms
Day 8 off

I want some input from you guys too though.........I need to mix up my back workouts.

So What exercises do you guys like to do for your.

A) Back thickness
B) Back width / tension specific exercises
 
A. I love me some deadlifts. you can do different variations of deads as well....and could consider it similar to doing Bench, incline bench, decline bench on the same day if that makes sense. So you could do sumo deads, regular deads, half deads (where the bar is about right below or at the knee), and then you could do deads on a platform so you can go farther down and get more hamstring too.

I also like to do a seated plate loaded row machine, and do a bunch of sets. keeping adding plates, and adding plates (1 arm at a time for the reps)

seated cable rows

barbell bent over rows (both grips)

dumbell rows (heavy heavy)

tbar rows

B. I like to change up the bar I use for lat pull downs. sometimes I really enjoy the flat bar with handles on both ends.
bent over triceps pull down/push backs (to hit the front lat)
standing flat bar straight arm pull downs


just some....not sure if you do those already or not
 
Well My Typical Back workouts look like this.......

Workout A) Back Thickness
Dead lifts
Bar row
tbar row
Seated cable row
seated plate row
High Shrug

Worktout b) Back width
Pull over machine
Lat pulls
DB rows
seated cable ( with rope )
concentrated pull ups ( Basically a pause at the top and pretend I am posing )
Hyper extensions
 
Well My Typical Back workouts look like this.......

Workout A) Back Thickness
Dead lifts
Bar row
tbar row
Seated cable row
seated plate row
High Shrug

Worktout b) Back width
Pull over machine
Lat pulls
DB rows
seated cable ( with rope )
concentrated pull ups ( Basically a pause at the top and pretend I am posing )
Hyper extensions

ya i mean you pretty much have every excercise known to man haha

How is doing back twice a week working for you?
If you are getting results, then I would stick with it.
If not, then I would probably just go to a once a week type training. Or skip a week to get some rest, and then come back killing it.

I think that with back there aren't too many secrets.
heavy weight, heavy weight, heavy weight, and genetics.
 
ya i mean you pretty much have every excercise known to man haha

How is doing back twice a week working for you?
If you are getting results, then I would stick with it.
If not, then I would probably just go to a once a week type training. Or skip a week to get some rest, and then come back killing it.

I think that with back there aren't too many secrets.
heavy weight, heavy weight, heavy weight, and genetics.

Well for every staple exercise there are a dozen other ones to target the muscle as well.

Yeah Hitting back twice a week works for me. I get good results But I always like to switch up my routine so my gains do not get stale to quick.

As far as training theory in back I could not disagree with you more........it is not just about going heavy. Yes there is the time and place for going heavy but there also needs to be the time and the place for "kai greene" sets so to speak. With over concentrated negatives and contractions to really bring out the striations.
 
Today Was shoulders.......ouch that is all I have to say

Rotator Cuff Warm up
Rear delt cable flys
Bent over DB flys
15x40
15x50
12x65
10x75

DB military
12x80
12x90
10x110
8x130
8x140

Upright Row
20x95
12x135
12x145
10x155

DB shrug ( 10 sec hold x 10 reps) x 3 sets at 100lb

Cable flys all sorts of directions

100 rep monster drop set db standing fly
 
Hey man,
Just wanted to give you an update. I changed my aromasin to 12.5 ED rather than EOD and it made a substantial difference. Not tired, libido up, and estrogen in check. Just wanted to say you could try that if you still having that bloat issue. I read on a thread from needto about dosing like this and it has been so much better.
 
Hey man,
Just wanted to give you an update. I changed my aromasin to 12.5 ED rather than EOD and it made a substantial difference. Not tired, libido up, and estrogen in check. Just wanted to say you could try that if you still having that bloat issue. I read on a thread from needto about dosing like this and it has been so much better.

No the bloat I was having was due to too much sodium intake.....I have gotten it down since then.

I have kept My aromasin dosage at 12.5mg eod.......I was having problems in the beggining of my cycle because the test I was taking was not converting to estrogen quite yet so it dropped my estro just a little bit lower than need be..

I have had no bloat or no estrogen sides and currently considering upping my test dose for the second 10 week part.
 
Week 7 update........

Alright guys so I am 7 weeks in. All I can say is that the NPP is very powerfull stuff and love every minute of it.

My weight is starting to peak out around 255...........and I could get that up higher but the gains would be sloppy......so I am just going to be patient and keep letting the EQ work its wonders in the Background.

The EQ btw is making me very vascular......almost comparable to masteron (but not as good as mast prop at 200 mg eod....talk about spider man)

Everything is up, energy, libido, lifts, appetite ( EQ appettite really starting to kick in)

On my refeed day I knocked down around 10 cups of brown rice and 50 + ounces of white fish.

Speaking of DIET:

Diet is going to get changed up a little bit in the next few weeks......going to have to start working in some lower carb days. Still playing around with the macros a little bit to see just how low I can go but so far I have noticed that 150g carbs is the lowest I can go.........lower than that I flatten out.

Juice:
I have 3 weeks left of NPP. Then I am going to be switching gears to masteron E at 600 mg. I am also either going to bump up my test c dosage or mix in some test prop and pin eod along with the long esters so it would look something like this. ( ps I dont care about pinning so dont chime in that eod pins for a long time are a no no)

Test prop 100mg eod (1ml)
EQ 200 mg eod (1ml)
Mast e 175 mg eod (.8ml)
Test c 125 mg eod ( .5 ml)

Now I am wanting to set it up like this just in case I run into estrogen sides I can drop the test prop real quick. Then go back to my 1.5ml a week test c schedule.
 
ya man I like how in tuned to your cycle you are.

EQ definitely is crazy sick vascularity wise. adding that mast in will im sure be the kicker.

running any orals in here? and you should check into those transdermals....could add something to your cycle without having to have extra pinning. (good for the week or so before the show when you cut out the injects)
 
ya man I like how in tuned to your cycle you are.

EQ definitely is crazy sick vascularity wise. adding that mast in will im sure be the kicker.

running any orals in here? and you should check into those transdermals....could add something to your cycle without having to have extra pinning. (good for the week or so before the show when you cut out the injects)

Thanks Man ( Everything always looks good on paper at first anyways hahaha)

Speaking of which I have decided just to drop the test cyp completely and just save what I have for later.....( In previous cycles week 8-10 is when I noticed the long estered test getting to me so to speak).

So I will just be doing
Test prop 100mg eod
EQ 200mg eod
Mast e 200mg eod

And loving every minute of the nice lean gains........

As far as orals or transdermals go I have not really planned to much ahead into that.

For the polisher on the back side I know I will be using either winny or anavar.

I jump started this cycle with NPP in hopes to stay away from orals but I am thinking about throwing in some tbol......but then again I really do not like orals too much because imo those results are very short lived.
 
Ya I would onlyfinish up with an oral, for the show.

I'm running tren and test transdermals and by day 2 I have superhuman tren strength again. They are fire. Already love them.

Their winstrol one would be less harsh on the liver. And you can run it much longer than oral form. it is similar to injectable since it avoids first pass thru the stomach. And from what I read super drol is actually a pretty sick compound.

But tbol you could run longer too and more reliable gains.
 
Protein is always high

I take in around 400-500 g protein every day

Calories stays around 3800-4500 (sometimes 5000).

I do have lower calorie days but that just depends on my body......( I know how to listen very well)

But the lowest I every go in a day is something like 2900-3000.
 
UPDATE TIME!!!!!!!

End Of week 8

Gear:
So there has been a little change up here in there in the cycle but currently running.

test prop 100mg eod
EQ 200 mg eod
Mast e 200 mg eod
NPP 200 mg eod ( only two weeks left of npp)

The reason for this is that test c gives me bloat at around 8-10 weeks so this time I have decided to switch up to prop ( probably end up bumping up the dose to 150 mg eod).
I also got some tbol ( most of my gear is free anyways ) so I will be doing tbol for about 6-8 weeks starting in the next couple of weeks.

Diet/weight
I am still around 4000 cals a day average. I am still leaning out and still making gains........remember it is a very slow process prepping for shows that happen in july, august, sept ( especially septemtber Mr O time)

Weight is at 260.........right where I wanted to be after about 8 weeks. All quality gains and in the places where I wanted them.

Training:

My lifts are through the fing roof!!!!!!!!!!! Never thought my strength would increase like this without running tren but it feels that way.

Was repping out 6 plates on the dead lift like it was my day job.

Everything else is gtg.....no sides
 
UPDATE TIME!!!!!!!

End Of week 8

Gear:
So there has been a little change up here in there in the cycle but currently running.

test prop 100mg eod
EQ 200 mg eod
Mast e 200 mg eod
NPP 200 mg eod ( only two weeks left of npp)

The reason for this is that test c gives me bloat at around 8-10 weeks so this time I have decided to switch up to prop ( probably end up bumping up the dose to 150 mg eod).
I also got some tbol ( most of my gear is free anyways ) so I will be doing tbol for about 6-8 weeks starting in the next couple of weeks.

Diet/weight
I am still around 4000 cals a day average. I am still leaning out and still making gains........remember it is a very slow process prepping for shows that happen in july, august, sept ( especially septemtber Mr O time)

Weight is at 260.........right where I wanted to be after about 8 weeks. All quality gains and in the places where I wanted them.

Training:

My lifts are through the fing roof!!!!!!!!!!! Never thought my strength would increase like this without running tren but it feels that way.

Was repping out 6 plates on the dead lift like it was my day job.

Everything else is gtg.....no sides
Texas, this is a great log pal., I am definitely looking to do this same cycle at some point. Thanks for posting this for all of us to learn..
 
Sadly no on the pics....... :( I am still trying to find time where I can get one of my good friends to get some pics of me ( then photo shop of course.....tattoos are a dead give away so to speak) Worse case scenario I might post a video at the end, of this really big body builder I know ;)

And @Arabian

This Cycle is really fun so far......the first few weeks were still good but now I am noticing that the EQ is starting to build to a respectful level.....you know that point in any cycle where you just feel on top of the world. (the other day was super setting 315 close grip bench for triceps with 65 lb concentrated curls)

If I were you though I would definately want to kick start it with an oral and also throw in some primo for 16-20 weeks instead of the mast. ( I wanted to do that in the first place but sources were limited ).

Forgot to also mention that after the tbol run will probaly give in and start running tren a at 30 mg ed
 
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Ok so it has been a crazy 3 weeks. Update for all you Nig Nogs.......

This is the end of week 11....and all I have to say is HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS THIS EQ IS FUCKING INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!

My weight is at 260 now which is only a 5 pound increase since the last post but the BF is now starting to just slide right off.....I am about 20 weeks out from comp and still on target for where I want to come in at weight and BF wise. It has dropped around 1.5 %

The weight has been placed mainly on my back and traps.....which I am embarrassed to say that those were my lagging body parts. Hitting back twice a week though has really brought that up to par.

My diet has changed only slightly now is when I start mixing in a few more protein/fat meals to start to come down in BF slowly......( I hate cutting weight and it is pointless because it only makes me look flat....imo) Calories are still high ( lowest cal day is 3000).

I have also started doing some fasted cardio before breakfast.....20 minutes medium resistance and pace......this really gets me going and it is what I have done for a while now when trying to get leaner and it works for me.

Now on to the fun stuff.........
Currently ON
Test prop 100mg eod
Mast E 100 mg eod
EQ 100 mg eod

The EQ is hitting right about the time every one said it would and the best part is that I still have weeks of it left.
The pumps are out of this world and cant wait to see what week 16-20+ brings......just being on the stationary bike and I get a crazy pump all over.......EQ two thumbs way up.

The Mast is helping a lot with bloat/estrogen as well.....had to back down the aromasin to 12.5 mg eod. Not to mention making me hard as a rock and vascular.

Everything is still going fine and no sides........For all those worried about the health related aspects of my cycling:

Blood pressure 110/70 average fluctates to highest 120/75 and lowest 105/66

Got Bloods taken as well and here are a few numbers to toss out for you......after 10 weeks on

RBC 5.43 G/DL on scale 4.10-5.7
creatinine 1.0 MG/DL on scale .8 - 1.4
LDL 50 MG/DL Normal Range <100
HDL 78 MG/DL Normal Range >39
LDL/HDL risk Ratio .64 Normal <3.55

Also Since I took a nandralone
TSH 2.6 UIU/ML scale .3-5.1

Everything checks out......

Test BTW was 1500+++++++ off the charts hahahaha
Estrogen was 15 on scale of 10-40

GTG and LOVING THIS FUCKING CYCLE!!!!!!!!!
 
Ok so it has been a crazy 3 weeks. Update for all you Nig Nogs.......

This is the end of week 11....and all I have to say is HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS THIS EQ IS FUCKING INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!

My weight is at 260 now which is only a 5 pound increase since the last post but the BF is now starting to just slide right off.....I am about 20 weeks out from comp and still on target for where I want to come in at weight and BF wise. It has dropped around 1.5 %

The weight has been placed mainly on my back and traps.....which I am embarrassed to say that those were my lagging body parts. Hitting back twice a week though has really brought that up to par.

My diet has changed only slightly now is when I start mixing in a few more protein/fat meals to start to come down in BF slowly......( I hate cutting weight and it is pointless because it only makes me look flat....imo) Calories are still high ( lowest cal day is 3000).

I have also started doing some fasted cardio before breakfast.....20 minutes medium resistance and pace......this really gets me going and it is what I have done for a while now when trying to get leaner and it works for me.

Now on to the fun stuff.........
Currently ON
Test prop 100mg eod
Mast E 100 mg eod
EQ 100 mg eod

The EQ is hitting right about the time every one said it would and the best part is that I still have weeks of it left.
The pumps are out of this world and cant wait to see what week 16-20+ brings......just being on the stationary bike and I get a crazy pump all over.......EQ two thumbs way up.

The Mast is helping a lot with bloat/estrogen as well.....had to back down the aromasin to 12.5 mg eod. Not to mention making me hard as a rock and vascular.

Everything is still going fine and no sides........For all those worried about the health related aspects of my cycling:

Blood pressure 110/70 average fluctates to highest 120/75 and lowest 105/66

Got Bloods taken as well and here are a few numbers to toss out for you......after 10 weeks on

RBC 5.43 G/DL on scale 4.10-5.7
creatinine 1.0 MG/DL on scale .8 - 1.4
LDL 50 MG/DL Normal Range <100
HDL 78 MG/DL Normal Range >39
LDL/HDL risk Ratio .64 Normal <3.55

Also Since I took a nandralone
TSH 2.6 UIU/ML scale .3-5.1

Everything checks out......

Test BTW was 1500+++++++ off the charts hahahaha
Estrogen was 15 on scale of 10-40

GTG and LOVING THIS FUCKING CYCLE!!!!!!!!!

Damn man that's some healthy test values .. Pics? Lol
 
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