TESTOSTERONE is for women

[Realgains]

We all need testosterone. Ladies produce small amounts of test in the ovaries and adrenal glands. A womens test levels are usually okay until menopause when they drop like a stone, however, young women can have a test levels that is too low especailly after having a kid or two.

You may have a low testosterone level if you have the following symptoms........#1 BY FAR.... low to no libido especially if you have never been able to orgasms even with direct clitoral stimulation.
#2. Easily fatigued
#3. Poor muscle tone
#4. Hair loss
#5 Great difficulty loosing body fat even with a low cal diet and cardio.

So if you suspect a low test level then get you doc to check your total test and free test levels. If your total test is 30 or lower and you have a low libido then you probably need some replacement therapy. If you have all the above symptoms then you need test for sure.

The best way for a women to replace test is via test gels or creams. They are applied daily usually to the inner forearm. They are made from natural sources and are available only at "compounding pharacies" The dose is normally 2.5 to 5mg per day.
Some use a larger dose on some days if they expect a particularily stressful day or if they are doing a tough athletic event that day.

You will find that you will gain more muscle and have better muscle tone with replacement therapy but don't expect large gains in muscle as this takes a test level that is well above the high normal range.

RG

 

[Temple]

Will the test gel at this dose lower your natural test production? If it is too low, it really doesn't matter overly much if it does but does the gel simply supplement what you are already making or does it shut your natural production down and you need to get all of your test from the gel or cream?

 

[FitFossil]

Question for Realgains:

I just started the 2% test creme from a compounding phcy. They had me start with 1mg/day. I've been on 10 days and don't feel any different (no change in libido, no difference in energy or stamina, etc.). Do you think my dose is too low, or do I need to give it more time? I'm only doing this to get my test levels in a normal range (not for extra muscle). I also want to be careful about acne - don't know why I have a prob w/ this even though my test level is low and I'm 39 years old. (Total test was 23 ng/dl and they said normal was 49-120.) Any advice would be great - Thanks!

 

[Realgains]

Will the test gel at this dose lower your natural test production? If it is too low, it really doesn't matter overly much if it does but does the gel simply supplement what you are already making or does it shut your natural production down and you need to get all of your test from the gel or cream?

Once the test level gets into the high normal range (if it does) then yes your own natural test production will slow and even stop but that doesn't really matter since it was never enough anyway. For optimal athletic abilty one needs a test level in the upper normal range. For optimal health one doesn't need to go above mid normal. The thing is each person is different in there bodily needs for testosterone so lab normals are not always the best thing to go by. If you are feeling good and have no androgeic sides then you are getting enough.

One thing is for sure...if your levels are above high normal you will certainly get a shitty lipid profile with a depressed HDL and elevated HDL and you don't want that for years on end.

So when you get your levels checked after being on therapy always be sure to check the lipid profile. You may be feeling great and have no androgenic sides but your lipid profile may be getting messed up if the dose is too high for your body.

RG

 

[Realgains]

Re: Question for Realgains:

I just started the 2% test creme from a compounding phcy. They had me start with 1mg/day. I've been on 10 days and don't feel any different (no change in libido, no difference in energy or stamina, etc.). Do you think my dose is too low, or do I need to give it more time? I'm only doing this to get my test levels in a normal range (not for extra muscle). I also want to be careful about acne - don't know why I have a prob w/ this even though my test level is low and I'm 39 years old. (Total test was 23 ng/dl and they said normal was 49-120.) Any advice would be great - Thanks!

Thats a pretty low dose but it may be enough....give it some more time and then get your levels checked. I would think that you would need to increase to 2-3mg per day.

23 is low and needs supplementation if you experienced the symptoms of low test. (#1. Being very low to no libido and a pissed off partner)
49 is decent and but you will probably feel best above 60.

RG

 

[Temple]

Why would a woman's natural test being above high normal give her a bad lipid profile? Is it the other hormones that she has in addition to the high test i.e. estrogen? It would seem to me that even above high normal for a woman would not make her lipid profile any worse than a man's who has more test that she would.

 

[Realgains]

Why would a woman's natural test being above high normal give her a bad lipid profile? Is it the other hormones that she has in addition to the high test i.e. estrogen? It would seem to me that even above high normal for a woman would not make her lipid profile any worse than a man's who has more test that she would.

I am not sure excactly how high a women test levels would need to be in order to mess up lipid profiles but it doesn't need to be as high as a normal non using male. Its not going to get way out of hand until bodybuilding doses are used and that takes about 30-50 mg per of injections. At 50 per week that is still not as much as a normal male produces since a portion of that 50 is in ester weight and assililation is not 100% from injections.

Our endocrinologist is most concerned about a shitty lipid profile and androgenic sides if one levels goes much above the noraml range.

It may have something to do with a womens other hormones being thrown out of balance.

Even if your lipid profile remains normal with a total test of 150 you will certainly get androgenic sides after a long period of use.....its just a matter of time.
A little too much over a years time = androgenic sides.......a lot too much over two months =androgenic sides and a shitty HDL/LDL ratio but this usually requires injections and at least 30- 40 mg per week at that.

RG

 

[w84me]

good info - thanks RG - I'm scheduled to have my blood work & check up this Friday - is there anything in particular that I need to request testing to the doctor, or just ask for a baseline?

 

[Realgains]

I have high test levels and my lipid profile is great. Even on 100mg of test cyp my lipid profile was fine. IMMV

I wish I had your genetics spatts..... even on as little as 400 per week my lipid profile is just terrible. My wifes profile was equally crappy on only 10mg of the mild androgen anavar.


RG

 

[Realgains]

good info - thanks RG - I'm scheduled to have my blood work & check up this Friday - is there anything in particular that I need to request testing to the doctor, or just ask for a baseline?

Get a base line lipid profile for sure..... and liver enzymes too in case you want to take 17 aa roids in the future (like anavar and winstrol)

RG