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doogle

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need help on starting new cycle really want to try tren but worried on sides, I did try fast rip version years ago what I can remember it messed with my head a bit not to bad. i also remember probably the best shape ive ever been in ever vascular ! im 32 n ow 6ft 2 lean many test prop cycles also test cyp , one cycle a year

what I have is testmastren this has in below
test enanthate 200 mg
trenbolone 100 mg
masteron enanthate 100 mg

or rip 200
test propionate 70mg
drostanlone propionate 65mg
trenblone acetate 65mg

so here we go ive 2 options ive read the short ester the prop will be easier to stop if you have bad sides as itll be out your system quick
 
I keep my doses little Contran I don't get very many size 40 mg every day seems to work well for me I wasn't 100 every other day and I noticed a roller coaster ride because my levels were not to stable

Start your dose of low and work your way up see how you react to side effects when I stayed about 250 mg of Trent we can do the work well for me I like to stay on the lower end of that and just run different compounds in addition
 
Prob my best stack was test p tren ace mast p

Ran them all at 250 a week except mast I ran at 600
 
maybe add extra mast into multi vile this may make jab less painful also ? ok bro theres one person advising short ester any one else with any good advise please post
 
If ur muscles are not virgin-month-old you should have no problem with the short Ester pip

Although it does depend on what labs you're running as well I've had some labs hurt a lot more than others but I don't get any tips on test p

But I'm sure it is different for every person I injected all of my three compound at one in the same syringe

It was a pretty big injection but I didn't get any pain at all
 
Pro Chem is rip 200 bro multi vile Some people say painful jabb. Could I add a test Cyp with this cycle may be 250 mg per week
 
Shit dude u can do what u wanna do lol

I prefer short esters myself because I like my levels to mimic the natural test levels of rise and decline through the day I feel better my body has less sides etc

I jan every morning right when I wake up when on cycle

If I'm on my normal Trt it's eod

But natural test levels are high in the am and decline through the day

So i like to keep my body and hormones as natural as possible with the flux

When I do cyp or other long esters I break out really bad I guess cuz of the high level and slow decline not sure but I know plenty of ppl that have used long ester test as the base and added short compounds to complement it
 
Shit dude u can do what u wanna do lol

I prefer short esters myself because I like my levels to mimic the natural test levels of rise and decline through the day I feel better my body has less sides etc

I jan every morning right when I wake up when on cycle

If I'm on my normal Trt it's eod

But natural test levels are high in the am and decline through the day

So i like to keep my body and hormones as natural as possible with the flux

When I do cyp or other long esters I break out really bad I guess cuz of the high level and slow decline not sure but I know plenty of ppl that have used long ester test as the base and added short compounds to complement it
 
Bro I like to run and do boxing with some hard circuits Is this fine well on tren ? Also do you jabb am ?
 
Depends on how u react
Tren was fine with my cardio for 6 weeks but come 7 and 8 weeks I got out of breath walking up the stairs

I hear of most guys really suffering with cardio running and boxing especially cuz it's high intensity

Yes I jab first thing in the morning before I do anything

I love keeping my levels at peak first thing


U gotta think naturally when we were in our teens we would get "morning wood" shit I still do cuz of my test levels year round

But the reson is because ur test levels are the highest in the am

When I got my test levels checked years ago I had been asked to do the labs first thing in the am I did not listen and got my test total and free done at 3 pm when dr got labs my test levels were at like 200 he asked why I got them done in the afternoon I said I did not thinnk it mattered
That was when I was young and stupid
Then I got them don't again per dr orders early in the morning my levels were 700 ish so the flux was a huge difference for me not sure how others are but natural hormone levels do decline dramatically through the day

So after I go out on Trt I hated that the dr wanted to put me on a long Ester that would taper over a week or weeks

So I did my homework for 3 years finally found a compound pharmacy that made test p for me ( standard protocol in the us test p is not prescribed )

I talked to dr brought a endocrinologist test book to her and told her my reason for waning short Ester

I honesty can say I felt great on test cyp but when I got on test p and kept my dose eod the difference was night and day

So most PPP with say no difference in long and short esters but I will tell ya from personal experience everyone's body is different
 
So yes all hormones. Wether it's tren mast npp I will always run short esters Ed or eod it is what works best for my body keeping it as natural with the flux as possible
 
Good info bro thanks for that. I think tren will effect my fitness. When I do long esters I struggle running Im thinking shirt Ester here bro. The tren side I was worried was fucking with my head. With jabbing short ester am do you think this will make you more chance of sleeping on a night with you tapering down ? Also on the shorter Estér would you do 8 or 12 wks ?
 
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I have hgh also I'm going to add that I'm waiting on Dylan to help me put something together he's moderator on here He has helped me with pct and also my cycles for along time . He's not been on line since this January. Wondering where this dude is. Hope all is ok
 
Yea tren can mess with ya if ur not careful

8 weeks will yield good gains if u can stick it out for 12 then go for it

But if u reacted poor to tren then 12 weeks might not work what did u say ur dose was last go around ?
 
Regardless ur Ester if u can't sleep in a compound then ur not gonna sleep on it

Tren ace or tren e u will still have sleep issues

What's ur bf?
 
Stats? Did not get ur info should have asked earlier

How many cycles u have under ur belt ? Age? training experience ?
Height ?weight? and bf?
 
Lots cycles bro I'm 32 started cycles early 20s nothing heavy ,1 cycle a year maybe 2 some years. I've done prop mast. Test Cyp. Tried ripp fast years ago had great gains. That had tren in Im 6 ft 2 pretty lean.
 
Good stuff

Shit all I say is if tren does not work well with ya don't run

I would recommend looking into npp been doing my research for about 6 months now and I like what I see

Gonna start cycle April 15

Shit
What are you really looking to accomplish with your cycle
 
Bro sorry sound dum what is npp? My goal is just to get ripped as much as possible. I remember when I did the fast ripp years ago very vascular. I know diet is king also. That's why I was thinking of running this ripp 200 short Estér test prop tren Mast along with 1 shot test Cyp a week. If the ripp 200 doesent go well with me I can stop and carry on with Cyp ?

Rip 200
Test prop 70 mg
Drostanlone prop 65 mg
Trenacetate 65 mg
3 Shots per week (eod)

Test Cyp 1 mill per week (250mil)

When I've been doing little research I've read you have to keep tren more than test or you'll have problems. So maybe I'm wrong above

Pct to add
 
doogle said:
Bro sorry sound dum what is npp? My goal is just to get ripped as much as possible. I remember when I did the fast ripp years ago very vascular. I know diet is king also. That's why I was thinking of running this ripp 200 short Estér test prop tren Mast along with 1 shot test Cyp a week. If the ripp 200 doesent go well with me I can stop and carry on with Cyp ?
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Nandralone phenyl propionate
 
Deka bro my experience years back major shut down with sex drive ! May be different now with help on here with pct
 
Shit high tren low test works for some

But u wanna talk about shut down tren is right up there with npp ( short Ester deca )

I would give it a go if u wanna accomplish the goals u just told me if I start to notice sides from tren drop it that's the beauty of tren ace
 
Are you could throw some EQ and they are EQ in mast p is a good combo

The eq Will really help keep you vascular side effects are very mild with the eq

You need to run a long cycle though minimum 12 weeks preferably 16 to 20

But honestly you're going to stay pretty vascular on any gear you put your body the leaner you are

But eq is good for ur goals and think at a dose of 500-600 mg with the mast u should be good it's a long Ester though
 
I think a pretty good cycle would be keeping a nice test base around three or 400 and having EQ and mast p at the same ratio 600 mg a week
 
I'm not telling you not to do the tren
Just giving u other options to not get the tren sides
 
ive heard good things on this eq ill do some research on this did you mean do this instaed of tren or add it

also what did you think of that stack I posted a couple messages before rip 200 with 250 mg cyp per week have a look bro
 
Not sure rip 200 is is it a tri blend test p mast p and tren ace doses all the same mg pr ml?

Also I was saying at the EQ instead of the tren if u have tren sides

But if the rip 200 is a blend it's good

I have done a tri blend
The only thing I don't like about that is the mass drowned in my opinion is underdosed I like to keep that at the higher end and I like to keep my test at the lower end

Test 175 week
Tren 259 week
Mast p 400-600 week

That's what I prefer

I found what works well for me is always keeping my tester low just enough to keep all my functions going I always like to run compounds higher so I really see how they work on their own

Unless I'm doing a test heavy stack then my test is always higher but normally when I go that route I just do a test only cycle


I'm just telling us what works for me


I really dislike in the triblends how the mass drown is the same dosing as the other compounds you really have to have a higher dose of that to see it work well

Example is I had a blend that was 50 mg/mL of test TREN and MAST

The test tren is fine with me but why would u wanna run maste at the sane dose unless ur running them all at 600 mg and I have no need to run tren that high

U really like low dose cycles it just aids my training I hate to rely on high doses of gear to get me where I wanna be
 
I just gotta see how u react to high test low tren

Might work better for ya .. But might not

If u say u had a go around with tren and ur doses were all same and it messed with ur head only three things u can do

1) low test high tren

2) hight test low tren


3) skip tren run something else


Since you had a ratio of all compounds the same those are ur other options but from what u have told me I feel that tren might not be a good compound for ya


But to answer ur question add the test cyp in see how ya feel
 
I just notice physique looks different with high tren low test much more vascularity and definition for myself
 
But my high tren is low compared to most that is a factor

I never go above 250 on tren it becomes to much for me
 
Bro tren doesent look like it's going to work with my boxing circuits and I do little running. I've read all this out breath shit. Really I've got a really decent test Cyp so maybe looking for a good stack to go with it to cut me up Any one know where Dylanjamelli moderator has gone ???
 
I have always run my test lower

I prefer to run it lower on most stuff

If I run high test it's usually on its own


I like eq at 400-600

That's still low compared to most guys

Most i see run from 700- a gram

But I am big on all doses low I like to have the gear to aid my lifts and diet not make it
 
Yer I think 350 mg on Cyp will keep levels good. Also what's your thoughts on running equipoise in its own in start cycle ?
 
what ive decided to cycle below

1-16 test cyp 350 mg per week

1-16 EQ 600 mg

1-6 anavar 60mg

1-16 gw 20mg per day (sarms)

1-16 aromasin 12.5mg eod

1-16 n2gaurd

pct

liquid clomid 50/50/25/25
liquid aromasin 50/50/25/25
test stack 17
ostarine 25mg (sarms)
 
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