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Test prop or Test E for first cycle?

Test Prop or Test E for first cycle?

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tryna get hench

tryna get hench

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What are your guys opinions. Thinking test prop due to the much shorter half life easier to control. But test e is less painfull from what ive heard. Pain is not an issue for me but depends if the pain will effect performance at the gym that will really piss me off.

What do you think guys? Experienced users opinions would be a great plus :D.
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I'd run test-e, prop is kinda painful specially if your a virgin to pinning.

I suggest a kicker as well because I know I hate waiting four weeks to feel the effects
 
it just depends on your goals for the cycle and if you think you can handle all the pinning... test e would probably be easier with the less pinning but my vote goes to prop... more my style... =)
 
Test E would require a longer cycle right? As it take around 4 weeks to really kick in im guessing a 10 week cycle of test e is equivalent to a 6 week cycle of test prop. Am I right in saying this?
 
If I was to run this I would only run test alone. No need to complicate things, I would rather wait 4 weeks for the test to kick in rather than put the unnecessary strain on my liver. Im planning on running a few cycles of test alone and see how it goes. I prefer slower solid gains.
 
Test E is generally better for a first cycle. Because of the longer esters, you don't have to pin nearly as often as with test prop, and it is less painful. It would be best to keep it simple and as painless as possible when getting your feet wet. No need to make things any more difficult than you have to
 
Test E, did it for my first cycle and gained a nice clean 15lbs that I was able to keep.

Plus like others have said, pinning ED or EOD for first time might be literally a pain in the ass.
 
King 604 said:
Test E, did it for my first cycle and gained a nice clean 15lbs that I was able to keep.

Plus like others have said, pinning ED or EOD for first time might be literally a pain in the ass.
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What dosage did you run your test at? And for how long? What sides did you experience and what ai's did u use?
 
I only did 400mgs for 8 weeks and this was a long time ago when clomid and nolva were the norm.

I didn't get any sides, my diet was clean so I didn't gain too much water weight. If I had the choice I would have run it longer, maybe 10-12 weeks. Some of the more experienced vets can help you on that.
 
moya said:
use prop... if you cant handle the pain that it gives (not bad) then you cant handle the pain from a heavy workout and shouldnt be juicing...
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I would require to be pointed in the right direction of how to run a prop cycle not many ppl use it from looking through the forums
 
King 604 said:
I only did 400mgs for 8 weeks and this was a long time ago when clomid and nolva were the norm.

I didn't get any sides, my diet was clean so I didn't gain too much water weight. If I had the choice I would have run it longer, maybe 10-12 weeks. Some of the more experienced vets can help you on that.
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Have you ran any cycles since then?
 
tryna get hench said:
Have you ran any cycles since then?
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No man, had a bad back injury (car accident) lost 30lbs but managed to gain it all back just be eating like a mofo and hitting the gym hard again.

I have a thread about my new cycle going to running var/primo/test E, was going to do it without the test but after doing a million and one searches on the forum I realize there is no option but to use test a base. I'm be dumb not to. I'm 180lbs at 11%BF, I was thinking of using prop but I'm running at least a 12 week cycle so I don't think it will be my best choice.
 
Lol sorry thought ive been here long enough to not have to keep posting stats lol

21yrs
180lbs
5ft8
Training seriously 1 and a half years.
Before you tell me im too young for roids bro im not planning on running a roid cycle for another year or so bro.
 
King 604 said:
No man, had a bad back injury (car accident) lost 30lbs but managed to gain it all back just be eating like a mofo and hitting the gym hard again.

I have a thread about my new cycle going to running var/primo/test E, was going to do it without the test but after doing a million and one searches on the forum I realize there is no option but to use test a base. I'm be dumb not to. I'm 180lbs at 11%BF, I was thinking of using prop but I'm running at least a 12 week cycle so I don't think it will be my best choice.
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Ahhh i see goodluck with it bro. Ye i see what your saying primo takes a long time to show its effects therefore needs a longer ester test to run it with. However since im running test alone then test prop seems to be the better option. If your worried abt injection pain you shouldnt be taking roids in the first place. My uncles a diabetic and he has to inject himself 3 times a day with insulin. If he can take the pain then so can i :)
 
tryna get hench said:
Lol sorry thought ive been here long enough to not have to keep posting stats lol

21yrs
180lbs
5ft8
Training seriously 1 and a half years.
Before you tell me im too young for roids bro im not planning on running a roid cycle for another year or so bro.
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Dammit you said what I was going to say. :supercool

Most guys will tell you to wait until you are 25.

I was 25 when I popped my cherry. (and no no the cherry you guys are thinking :nerd:
 
tryna get hench said:
loool I read minds bro
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lmao.....I guess you can.

I was going to use prop for my first cycle but I was able to find some nice non UG test E and the only prop I could find was UG at the time I wasn't cool with trying UG stuff, didnt know enough about gear back then to trust some random dude in the gym.


In the future I'm thinking of prop/fina stack mmm....yummy
 
I was going to use test and deca for first cycle but decided to hold off and just went with test 400.. Into week 3 now and starting to notice strength gains, I would go with the test e if I was you, I know I wouldn't want to be pinning more than twice a week for first cycle good luck bro!!!
 
Eddie-jnr said:
I was going to use test and deca for first cycle but decided to hold off and just went with test 400.. Into week 3 now and starting to notice strength gains, I would go with the test e if I was you, I know I wouldn't want to be pinning more than twice a week for first cycle good luck bro!!!
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Definitely don't want Deca for a first cycle
 
For a 1st cycle I agree, test e is easier. But a few cycles in, I personally prefer prop. If nothing else the noticable less amount of bloat wins with prop.
 
I did 12 weeks of test e. 250mg/week for my first cycle Low dosage but it worked well with no side effects. I had bad acne as a teen so I was scared of that but nothing but a few zits once in a while. I gained 15 lbs and kept most of it. My strength went through the roof. The week before my first pin I was benching 225 for 4-5 reps and a max of around 275 After the first month I was doing 225 for sets of 10 and maxed out over 300.

Don't need a lot of test e on your first cycle for great results.
 
Apczone said:
I did 12 weeks of test e. 250mg/week for my first cycle Low dosage but it worked well with no side effects. I had bad acne as a teen so I was scared of that but nothing but a few zits once in a while. I gained 15 lbs and kept most of it. My strength went through the roof. The week before my first pin I was benching 225 for 4-5 reps and a max of around 275 After the first month I was doing 225 for sets of 10 and maxed out over 300.

Don't need a lot of test e on your first cycle for great results.
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That is a great approach to take on cycling, but unfortunately not enough people go that route. You should always use the smallest "effective" dose that you can to get your results, and that is what you did. There are so many people nowadays that try to run as much gear as they can take or afford...
 
Apczone said:
I did 12 weeks of test e. 250mg/week for my first cycle Low dosage but it worked well with no side effects. I had bad acne as a teen so I was scared of that but nothing but a few zits once in a while. I gained 15 lbs and kept most of it. My strength went through the roof. The week before my first pin I was benching 225 for 4-5 reps and a max of around 275 After the first month I was doing 225 for sets of 10 and maxed out over 300.

Don't need a lot of test e on your first cycle for great results.
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It's great to see someone post that. That's exactly what I did. Just wanted a nice boost and see how my body would handle it. Did 12 weeks of Test E at 250mg and I loved it. Kept all my gains and recovered very fast from.

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test e is a better first cycle.. all that pinning and possible pain is enough to drive a noob away sometimes.
 
I'm finishing up my first cycle, did Test P, going to be honest, if I had my time again, I'd try and get some Test E. The pip wasn't never terrible in my quads, but my shoulder workouts really struggled most of the cycle due to the pip from pinning them, even ventroglute had some decent pip to it. Only running 6 weeks instead of 8 now as well, just sick of feeling like I have knots everywhere, but the pinning EOD didn't bother me, looked forward to it, but can see why some of the vets on here bash test prop.

Gained 17lbs btw, time to see how PCT goes!
 
Honestly being that young and only at 180 pounds you still have a lot of room to grow and develop naturally. DO NOT START JUICING YET EVEN IF IT IS JUST TEST. Naturally you should be able to put on 20 pounds without any side effects or health issues. Of course it will take you a few years but it is well worth having a solid base before you start juicing. Think about it like this. You have to have a solid mind muscle connection along with years of training and experience before you can get the most out of your cycle. Since you have been training seriously for only a short amount of time you probably do not have the full cognitive recognition of your body yet. You could start using test but during your cycle you will find ways to improve your diet and training or maybe even realize the mistakes you been making. The harsh part of the lesson comes when you realize the mistakes you have been making and realizing you been making them while fucking around with your hormones, wasting your time and money, and possibly deteriorating your health.

Try this out first. Go a few more months training. Focus on your diet and goals ie gaining weight or loosing fat. During your workouts if you can get to the point in your workouts where it feels like your muscles will pop off your bone, you can not walk because there is so much blood pooled in your quads, you push yourself to failure on every muscle group, you vommit from doing a god set of ham curls, etc etc etc

Then and only then would I give my consent that it would be time to start juicing. If you can not get to that point in your training naturally you will not be able to have really any good gains from a cycle.

That is just my two cents worth though. Just trying to prevent another sporty spice from hopping on too soon before realizing that all of these "gains" come from the gym and not just the juice alone.
 
RickRock13 said:
Test E is generally better for a first cycle. Because of the longer esters, you don't have to pin nearly as often as with test prop, and it is less painful. It would be best to keep it simple and as painless as possible when getting your feet wet. No need to make things any more difficult than you have to
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Exactly !!!
 
tryna get hench said:
Test E would require a longer cycle right? As it take around 4 weeks to really kick in im guessing a 10 week cycle of test e is equivalent to a 6 week cycle of test prop. Am I right in saying this?
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Yes,no. With enanthate, it takes a little longer to see it in the mirror, but physiological changes start to happen quickly. If you have spent a lot of time in the gym you will notice the little things within a week. Energy, appetite, libido etc... It grows steadily from there but by week 3-5 its in full swing and you're probably standing 10lbs heavier on the scale. Prop works faster and I prefer it over E purely for the fact I typically run shorter cycles.
 
digit0x said:
Yes,no. With enanthate, it takes a little longer to see it in the mirror, but physiological changes start to happen quickly. If you have spent a lot of time in the gym you will notice the little things within a week. Energy, appetite, libido etc... It grows steadily from there but by week 3-5 its in full swing and you're probably standing 10lbs heavier on the scale. Prop works faster and I prefer it over E purely for the fact I typically run shorter cycles.
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I just got prop and going to get bloods tomorrow before i get started but a buddy of mine is also running the prop and getting pip. Is there any way to minimize that. Would ED be more forgiving or EOD? Going to 100mg EOD for right now but a little worried about it now. 2 buddies on the same prop are having pip issues

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Texas Monster said:
Honestly being that young and only at 180 pounds you still have a lot of room to grow and develop naturally. DO NOT START JUICING YET EVEN IF IT IS JUST TEST. Naturally you should be able to put on 20 pounds without any side effects or health issues. Of course it will take you a few years but it is well worth having a solid base before you start juicing. Think about it like this. You have to have a solid mind muscle connection along with years of training and experience before you can get the most out of your cycle. Since you have been training seriously for only a short amount of time you probably do not have the full cognitive recognition of your body yet. You could start using test but during your cycle you will find ways to improve your diet and training or maybe even realize the mistakes you been making. The harsh part of the lesson comes when you realize the mistakes you have been making and realizing you been making them while fucking around with your hormones, wasting your time and money, and possibly deteriorating your health.

Try this out first. Go a few more months training. Focus on your diet and goals ie gaining weight or loosing fat. During your workouts if you can get to the point in your workouts where it feels like your muscles will pop off your bone, you can not walk because there is so much blood pooled in your quads, you push yourself to failure on every muscle group, you vommit from doing a god set of ham curls, etc etc etc

Then and only then would I give my consent that it would be time to start juicing. If you can not get to that point in your training naturally you will not be able to have really any good gains from a cycle.

That is just my two cents worth though. Just trying to prevent another sporty spice from hopping on too soon before realizing that all of these "gains" come from the gym and not just the juice alone.
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Agreed^^^^ Great advice!
 
Well after much deliberation on what to start out with, I've learned i was going way too far overboard. Being an aspiring noob to AAS, this place seems to have the most reliable source of information. I'm ready to light this firecracker

not all those who wander are lost
 
hey bro, as a first timer its always better to do test e, prop is out of the question here, not only its painful but it also requires frequent injections, that means injection site rotations (unless you are a RN you are not going to really know how to pin yourself) so keep it simple test e 500mg for 12 weeks feel it out then plan you next cycle. good luck
 
Prop gets my vote, I always have clients start on prop because that way due to the short ester if something goes wrong or they get a bad reaction and they need to pull it the gear doesn't take forever to flush out of their systems
 
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Nah prop, it might hurt but at least it kicks in quicker , if your younger I would also run prop because you can run a shorter cycle and less hpta shutdown, run hcg with it also, really helps smooth transition into pct and you want that if your under 28 especially, even if your older you always want the smooth transition

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So what do you plan on running for a basic Test-e cycle and what do you planning running for PCT? I really want to follow a first timers basic cycle to get my feet wet
 
Back from the dead. Lots of good opinions in this thread. Thanks! I have the same question. Perhaps opinions have changed over the years.

34, 200lb, 13%BF

Construction by day, gym 4-6 days a week
 
if pinning doesnt bother you then test prop is fine but it bothers alot of people,especially people that are just learning how to pin.
 
Myself strait test E. All 5 runs I have done. Any the reason is cause every time my gain are great. So don't fix it if it's not broken.. Good luck bro...



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I do find test P to be a more efficient way of keeping a steady blood level, and I make better lean gains with the propionate ester, and once you get used to pinning, its really no big deal. But before that get used to pinning in left glutes and left quads, you are going to be rotating sites quite often.


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Apczone said:
I did 12 weeks of test e. 250mg/week for my first cycle Low dosage but it worked well with no side effects. I had bad acne as a teen so I was scared of that but nothing but a few zits once in a while. I gained 15 lbs and kept most of it. My strength went through the roof. The week before my first pin I was benching 225 for 4-5 reps and a max of around 275 After the first month I was doing 225 for sets of 10 and maxed out over 300.

Don't need a lot of test e on your first cycle for great results.
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So you do 1 shot a week at 250mg?

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I am going for test prop as my first cycle no need for a kick starter unlike with test e which is good for first cycle as less stacking the better.

Also you dont know how your going to react to it so again that was why i chosen prop as it would be out my system much quicker than enanthate if i had a adverse reaction :) very unlikely lol but something to consider. For me a few extra pins is no problem for faster gains and less risk being a first cycle.
 
Thing about first cycle is you want to feel something quick to get you motivated...so prop is the way to go...but it hurts...lol..so for me I quickly move to test e. But I started with prop to give me the confidence that it was going to help. Once I moved to e and there zero pain....I never looked back.


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Keep it basic bro for your first cycle, if you are not used to being a pin cushion you will find the EOD injections for Prop tedious. Test E 500mg/week for ten weeks with a good PCT.

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tryna get hench said:
If I was to run this I would only run test alone. No need to complicate things, I would rather wait 4 weeks for the test to kick in rather than put the unnecessary strain on my liver. Im planning on running a few cycles of test alone and see how it goes. I prefer slower solid gains.
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I am running my first cycle of test c ... I am on week 3 I have felt some strength but more happy go lucky attitude so far
 
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