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Test Labwork while On Gear-HELP

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Power36

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Lets say someone was on:
300mg Test E weekly
200mg Deca weekly
40mg Var daily
HCG 250iu EOD
GH
T-Cream nightly


Last Test E+Deca shot was Monday. In 10 days, a week from this upcoming Monday, have to get labwork for insurance company purposes on everything, including Testosterone levels....said person is on HRT but not the Deca/Var obviously, and T is only supposed to be 150mg week....if said person went cold turkey on everything starting now, would the T levels be dropping down in 10 days to be somewhat acceptable on lab results?????????????
 
So my best bet is to just cross my fingers, cease and desist all Test, Deca, Var, and HCG for the next 10 days? Im supposed to be on the GH so I can keep that going through the week with no worries.

Damn...anyone else have experience on what their T levels were while on a cycle or shortly thereafter? Im normally only 300, got shutdown from other health problems...but on only 4 weeks of 150mg I shot up to 1300....and I started hitting the 300mg Test E+200mg Deca+40mg daily Var for the last three weeks...new doctor wants new bloodwork...
 
You're fucked bro... I have to take those damn tests too..

I tried to dupe my test by (just kidding, right? I would never....anyways:) stopping my androgel 5g/day FOUR DAYS ahead of time.. since it isnt time released I thought I'd be low for sure.. nope, 750.

I say quit NOW and hope that it goes down..
--If anyone else has tips for me or this guy on showing low test on bloodwork please let me/him know..
 
The half life (which is debatable) is anywhere from 10-14 days from last injection. Your test levels will decrease at this point in time
 
You already know the answer is you have to stop taking everything...and just hope for best cause there is no way you can go in the while still shooting on schedule. maybe try not sleeping and eating well a few days before...anything might help.
 
I heard that theirs some kits or something you use that allows you to pass tests... saw it online.. most likely not reliable source , just putting it out there if anyone else heard about it...


GOOD LUCK bro, I feel your pain...
 
Fudge Tunnel said:
The half life (which is debatable) is anywhere from 10-14 days from last injection. Your test levels will decrease at this point in time
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Your test levels will start decreasing as soon as you stop injecting.

Remember, half life just means HALF the substance has been eliminated from the body. HALF. Not ALL. It is constantly being absorbed by his body.


If he stops now, his levels WILL drop immediately, but slowly. (Because of the ester)

I don't think 10 days will be enough to get you down to where you *should* be. Having said that, there is no rule of thumb that says your test levels should be 'x' if you take 'y' amount of Test. It differs from person to person, obviously.

As long as you aren't way outside the expected range, I think you will be fine.


I think the HCG is the biggest problem. Taking 250mg EOD can potentially really jack up your test levels.
 
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Man I appreciate all the posts...Im running to an appointment now but will check and digest these posts this weekend when I return...

Today only Var...but from now on until labs nothing except GH....and cross my fingers...
 
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK of this post from another forum...makes it seem I could keep shooting Deca and it would have me show low T levels? Or am I reading this wrong, or its bad info? I really do not want to do the binge drinking or staying up all night...Ive been eating clean and making great gains, strides in my training and health-I dont want to piss it away by partying and sleep deprivation....

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Power36 said:
Found an article, in lab rats narcotics did supress serum T levels 4 hours after administration....
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Umm...will they be testing for recreational drugs in your blood work? You could just mess yourself up even more with the insurance company if you choose that route.
 
Nope, not testing for recreational drugs. STrictly T levels, IGF-1, pregnenolone, thyroid, cortisol, estrogen. Besides Ive had plenty of recent surgeries and never used up all the meds.
 
So does Deca and Test work in a manner which shows a higher natural T level? Or by other methods? I know Ive read about Class I or Class II, and some do not work directly on the receptor site like T or something....confusing to try to figure it out, but wondering how the other stuff shows up as far as free T levels....

Var should lose effect in a few days, Test E is longer acting so might hurt, same with Deca...
 
They are going to be testing for insurance purposes? I'd be more worried that they think your going to have a heart attack or something like that due to the shot-to-hell lipid profile from the Var. Good luck!
 
Nope, no lipid profile....

Pregnenolone
IGF-1
Free T4
Free T4
Test free and total
DHT
E2
Cortisol
DHEA
CBC
Hemoglobin
PSA
TSH

Lipid profile box is not checked
 
oh... fuck bro... hemoglobin and dht and e2 and cortisol could also fuck you here..

try phosphatidylserine at 1000mgs/day up untill day before for cortisol (I've read that is lowers it)

donate blood a few days prior.. do not tell them you use..

as for e2.. an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex could work..
 
oh but before I get ahead of myself...

I was just being a silly bastard.. I didn't recommend any of that...especially duping your medical test.. !
 
I have Arimidex, but was going to take next week off to avoid it contributing to higher T.

The doctor knows I was supposed to be on HCG, and 150mg Cypionate a week, plus GH daily. So if my E2 levels are high Im not worried about him being upset at that, plus Ive been on Arimidex up until this past mid week when I found out Im gonna be tested so soon.

My cortisol is already way way way low...they keep checking it just in case they need to give me some orally because I have adrenal fatigue in a bad bad way....

As for DHT, imagine my other levels from labs were high even before I hit up the stuff...I got a lot of weird shit going on with my blood....all before I started HRT, and the reason multiple doctors all agreed I should be on HRT.....so its just a glitch with insurance that I saw a new doctor who agrees I should be on GH, Test, Thyroid, etc....so he isnt suspicious, just wants to see what my levels look like at 2 months into HRT....I started at 300 TT, after a month of HCG and 150mg Cyp, it jumped to 1300....and I didnt think Id be checked for another 3 months, so started the Test E 300mg and Deca 200mg week with Arimidex, figuring I was good to go for 3-4 months, so I could hit it for 10 weeks and taper down before the next test....

This doc is going to be my long term one, and his intent of this test is to see where I am 2 months into HRT, to make sure the dose is correct long term....Im cold turkey on everything, sucks I was kicking ass in the gym....but next week will continue to train hard, and Sunday night as much as I dont want to, might have a 6 pack of some dark beer, stay up late, not eat the next day, and go in later in the afternoon for the labs, and pop a pain killer or two in the morning if I can find some old ones, seeing within 4 hours in rats it lowers serum test....
 
Since PCT normally starts a few weeks after Deca and Enan, is there the chance by Nov 23, 24, current T levels would be drastically dropping off??

If so, I could hold off another few days probably and schedule the labs for Nov 27th...however I wouldnt want to see a huge drop off in momentum and then start all over again....
 
Im surprised not more people chiming in....I mean do some of you guys get HRT and never have unexpected reasons for bloodwork to pop up? And if you were being aggresive with dosing, than what?
 
Power36 said:
Since PCT normally starts a few weeks after Deca and Enan, is there the chance by Nov 23, 24, current T levels would be drastically dropping off??

If so, I could hold off another few days probably and schedule the labs for Nov 27th...however I wouldnt want to see a huge drop off in momentum and then start all over again....
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I think it kinda goes like this: Your on gear and you have a test comming up in a short timeframe. You have all the input from a lot of people as to what to do between that timeframe to "help" you pass the test. You maybe have the option of pushing out the test a couple of days, but in reality, what will that get you? Theres no hardcore baseline answers for what your asking. Some of these questions you are asking really don't matter because you still are facing the test and no one knows for sure the answers. Your just going to have to select the best protocol you want to do to come off for the test and hope for the best. At least AFTER the test you can post up what you exactly did BEFORE the test and how the results came out for the next guy. Now that would be very usefull info.
 
Amen to that....next week the test, the week after the consult with doctor...I will post up the results and what I did so it might be of some help to others in the future. Thus far I am cold turkey on everything except GH and not feeling anything negative about it other than the mental desire to still be on schedule.

It will be interesting, Ill be able to give you all my levels prior to anything, a month after starting HRT (150mg Cyp, GH, T3, HCG), and two months post starting HRT (with 3 weeks of the second month adding higher dose Test E+Deca+Var).
 
a health insurance blood workup with no cholesterol check? i just dont see that as possible. i had the hrt tests done (not for insurance purposes) and cholesterol was in the results and not on my prescription. if that is the case, the anavar could really fuck you. lipid profiles take at least 8 weeks to turn and longer to get the ratio back to 3:1 or under.

i do know afew guys who have to do yearly insurance workups and they take 2 months off prior to the test every year.
 
thankfully I didnt take any of the designer/pro hormone stuff I have from years ago...original Superdrol, Phera Plex, eMaxLMG, Prostanozol, etc....sure that stuff from what Ive read would have effects that would scare the doctor...the only thing I think I might use from that stash is the original Halodrol 50.

Well, guess we will see how my body reacts to stuff within a few weeks...shall be interesting to say the least....hoping its within enough of a range to be "safe" with the doc...and I hope once I stick with the same doc that I get some heads up as to when these blood tests will happen...I wanna finish up the Deca Cycle, then possibly hit Test+Anavar+ Primo hard after a little break.
 
Good to Go!

Guys, FYI my bloodwork came back with flying colors. T was only 1200, and thats still in the range the doctor wants it so he has no problems with it. All my hemoglobin, CBC, all the other stuff doctor said I was ideal with no issues in anything....good news is he bumped up the GH daily dose to .8, bumped up the Armor Thyroid to 4 grains, and said we still could have room as long as Im making improvements.

So, I was sweating my nuts off worried, but taking a week off of everything must have done the trick. I did not drink any alcohol, did not take any pain killers, did not deprive myself of sleep. If there was anything I did, it was going to get the blood draw at 5:30pm right before closing, and I fasted the entire day. Other than that I did nothing to try to lower my T levels.

I asked when the next labs would be, he said we could do them as often as I wanted, or if I trusted him we could only do them every 3-4 months and just go on results and symptoms...since he thinks that symptoms are often a better indicator of how the hormones are working than strictly numbers....

So yea, damn....twice this guy has bumped up my GH dosage, added script for injectable methylcobalamin B12, bumping up thyroid, getting all my BCAAs and protein covered by insurance, we started doing some gluithione by some sort of inhaler/fogger contraption, every two weeks I get additional shots of B complex and some other choline/b vitamins and other stuff shot for "fat burning", etc...so far so good...
 
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