Test e and Deca cycle

[vendetta21]

Hey all I didn't know where to post this so I thought this might be the right section..

I am currently on a cycle (first one ever), which contains test E and Deca each 600mg a week split up in 2 days. My diet has been in check and training too and i'm just nearing end of week 5 but I am not really noticing any gains.. which is frustrating.

The only thing I actually noticed was my libido skyrocketing and a little bit of endurance and strength.. nothing more.

stats:
age: 21 years old
BF: around 14-16´% (yeah I know)
lbs: 198
ft: 6 ft

I have been training for 3-4 years, never really ate well until I started this cycle.

The gear I got is from a friend and it has no labels or anything but it's a guy he knows and makes and delivers it to him. I trust him completely, and he's huge so i'm wondering why I can't get any bigger even while taking his advice.


please don't flame my ass off, lol. I hope you guys can help me, grtz V.

 

[bonacris]

Well they are both long esters so take a while to build up..

What is your PCT set up?

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[vendetta21]

On that point you can call me stupid, no PCT at all. He said you do not really need PCT since when you are off cycle your body will go back to it's normal state, was not planning to use anything anyway.

 

[LiftLearnLove]

Definitely would consider a pct at the end of this....

Or your asking for trouble



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[bonacris]

On that point you can call me stupid, no PCT at all. He said you do not really need PCT since when you are off cycle your body will go back to it's normal state, was not planning to use anything anyway.

It will go back to its normal state but that also means you will lose all the mass you put on.. and deca is nasty because it stays in the body for ages and prolactin sides can cause your Dick to stop working.. Google deca Dick if you don't believe me.. please get somethig for your PCT and don't say fucking nolvadex

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[vendetta21]

Alright I will look more into PCT, but what about the gains? I have read on a lot of bodybuilding forums that for most of the guys started gaining in week 4-5, but I am not seeing much difference... What could I be doing wrong?

 

[bonacris]

Alright I will look more into PCT, but what about the gains?

This here is the fucking problem.. you don't give a fuck about your long term health, but are more worried about gaining a few pounds to impress some pussy..

gains won't matter a shit when you lose everything you got and what good is it being jacked when your dick can't get hard because your prolactin is throught the roof..



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[vendetta21]

I don't do this for women bro and he said a very good PCT costs a whole fkin lot, recommended using Dbol to keep gains.

 

[joeblow12345]

I don't do this for women bro and he said a very good PCT costs a whole fkin lot, recommended using Dbol to keep gains.

Your buddy is right about one thing, eventually your body will return to normal on its own. However, when that time does come all your gains will be gone and you will have a rough sex life for a while. A smart man would want to recover as fast as possible and maintain most of the gains. So its up to you what you want to do. If you do choose the smart route then here is what I suggest. Stop decca two weeks before test, then two weeks after you stop test do this.

Weeks 1-6
Clomid 25 mg day
Forged methyl
Forma

6-10
Bridge and dspark

 

[vendetta21]

Ok bro I probably should do that thanks for the advice. But can someone please tell me when im gonna feel/see some big difference?

 

[bonacris]

I don't do this for women bro and he said a very good PCT costs a whole fkin lot, recommended using Dbol to keep gains.

You know dbol is another steroid right? So use a steroid to keep gains from steroids, and make it even harder to recover. A good pct cost a lot because its your health.. but hey if you don't care about your health then skimp on PCT

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[vendetta21]

I'm gonna die sometime anyway, don't care. Can someone please answer my question?

 

[redheat7]

How can one a answer what u will gain when we don't know what kind of training u r doing and how is ur diet plus if ur mate is jacked means shit(no offense) but ur stuff cud be underdosed.

 

[vendetta21]

Diet: 3 weight gain shakes from Mutant mass (carbs and cals), 3 cans of tuna, 7 oz of rice, 7 oz of chicken, 35 oz of cheese that contains no fat, so mainly I eat clean and protein..

Training: Monday: Chest/tricep - Tuesday: Back/bicep - Wednesday: Shoulders/traps - Thursday: Legs/abs - Friday: Bicep/tricep

I do 4 exercises for each muscle group, 3X10 sets. Sorry for my bad english, it's not my main language.

Thanks in advance, grtz.

 

[bonacris]

I'm gonna die sometime anyway, don't care. Can someone please answer my question?

You Sir, are a moron

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[Deebo88]

Glad to see youve done your research, cycle support and pct looks good! oh wait....

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[vendetta21]

I came here for advice and help not to be called moron come on .. xD

 

[LiftLearnLove]

I came here for advice and help not to be called moron come on .. xD

You havent the slightest clue about steroids...

Things are gonna end bad for you man

Open your ears and start listening to people on here not your retard mate who recommends dbol for pct hahahaha That is a first

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[vendetta21]

You guys worry too much about PCT when there was none at all back in the days when for example Arnold did roids. All I need is an answer to my question, I appreciate the help and recommendation for PCT but that is not what I am looking for.
Still have had no answer to my question, I would like to know why I am not seeing a lot of difference on this cycle, should I wait longer due the long esters or is there something wrong with my gear?

 

[LiftLearnLove]

You guys worry too much about PCT when there was none at all back in the days when for example Arnold did roids. All I need is an answer to my question, I appreciate the help and recommendation for PCT but that is not what I am looking for.
Still have had no answer to my question, I would like to know why I am not seeing a lot of difference on this cycle, should I wait longer due the long esters or is there something wrong with my gear?

If you have noticed nothing its the gear

If you have noticed a small abit your diet and training isnt intense enough

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[NegroPops]

Based on the advice your buddy gave you, and the description of the vials.. your gear is either very underused, or completely fake. Your libido going up is most likely just a placebo effect. The only real way to tell if the gear is legit or fake is to get bloods done.

Also, PCT is the most important part of a cycle. I understand that this is your first cycle, one that is not being successful for you at that, so you don't really know what is important and what is not. Your view on PCT and lack of knowledge, and responses like "I'm gonna die sometime anyway, don't care." or "You guys worry too much about PCT when there was none at all back in the days when for example Arnold did roids" is why you were called a moron. If you do not want to be a moron, don't act like one. Sorry that someone actually cared about your health and tried to give you advice.