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wolfman87

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would test E alone at 500mg e4d for 12-13 weeks be good to pack on some weight and strength? i was planning on deca and dbol too but after seeing the price tag it turned out to be a bit much for me right now. so this is what i'm looking at now. let me know what you're thinking.
 
wolfman87 said:
would test E alone at 500mg e4d for 12-13 weeks be good to pack on some weight and strength? i was planning on deca and dbol too but after seeing the price tag it turned out to be a bit much for me right now. so this is what i'm looking at now. let me know what you're thinking.
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so you are gonna do 1,000 mg of test e every 8days?
 
wolfman87 said:
would test E alone at 500mg e4d for 12-13 weeks be good to pack on some weight and strength? i was planning on deca and dbol too but after seeing the price tag it turned out to be a bit much for me right now. so this is what i'm looking at now. let me know what you're thinking.
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If this is your first cycle the Test is all you really need. Learn as much as you can about recovery and doing a proper PCT before you start.
 
ok great you guys made me feel a lot more confident about this. i do have one question though. when you say monday morning and thursday night do you mean only those times or monday morning, thursday night, sunday morning, wednesday night, saturday morning, and so on. i also might be able to scrounge up enough money to throw in some dbol @ 25-30 mg ed for 4 weeks to start seeing results sooner.
 
wolf - is this your first cycle?

For the experts: so as not to start another thread, I'm gonna ask here cuz it's relevant.... if you've done several cycles including multiple injectables as well as orals, is it effective to go back to a simple test cycle (or at most a test + oral)?
 
First cycle with Test 250 mg week is the max. No burn for a beginner.
Let the body work with a limited gear...and maybe your second...third cycle you can begin with Test 500mg Week and others gears like Deca...Eq...
 
i enjoyed and gained plenty on 250mg's ew test e for my 1st cycle.
 
ole farte' said:
so you are gonna do 1,000 mg of test e every 8days?
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For your first cycle you definitely don't need to do 1000mgs a week. 500mg a week is more then enough. If you do it right you will gain at least 30lbs some of it will be water. Its your first cycle so you really dont know how your body is going to react to the test, so take it easy on the first one. 1000mgs a week is just reckless for a beginner...I cant believe guys on here are actually recommending it...
 
DrGrier said:
For your first cycle you definitely don't need to do 1000mgs a week. 500mg a week is more then enough. If you do it right you will gain at least 30lbs some of it will be water. Its your first cycle so you really dont know how your body is going to react to the test, so take it easy on the first one. 1000mgs a week is just reckless for a beginner...I cant believe guys on here are actually recommending it...
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Better get your believer fixed doc. Our master plan is to clone an army of ulters, starting at 1000mg p/wk. We are taught to spray AIFM on anything that moves. That is why we are elite. OK, a little sarcasm for breakfast with my 8 eggs. I do wish my first cycle was 1000 mg a week though.
 
My 2nd cycle was Test-E only. I started at 250 EW and finished at 500 EW. It was the 1st time I ever benched 500.
 
Ulter said:
Wags you should click on that link. And you should also be on the AF board. 90% veterans so it moves a little slow. :)
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Wow. Let me take a breath, then I'll zip through War and Peace. There's obviously more maturity there, kinda smells like grandma used to. The place does reek with knowledge, and that was an excellent debate. So I could go there to learn something and here to be a sarcastic asshole. Sounds good, thanks. Is Lt. Fear there, or is he too young?
 
wags8 said:
Wow. Let me take a breath, then I'll zip through War and Peace. There's obviously more maturity there, kinda smells like grandma used to. The place does reek with knowledge, and that was an excellent debate. So I could go there to learn something and here to be a sarcastic asshole. Sounds good, thanks. Is Lt. Fear there, or is he too young?
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Yes there is more maturity and more PhD's on AF. It was put up by veteran mods from this board and myself 6 years ago. Most of the ideas you see on this board and all the other boards came from people posting AF. Like modern PCT, long term gh dosing, tren dosing, etc. It used to be the place where all the knowledgeable people gathered to write consensus statements.

So I could go there to learn something and here to be a sarcastic asshole.
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Sure, that's what I do. :)
 
If anyone who has interest in this topic hasn't yet read the thread Ulter linked to, they should. The argument is persuasive.

My only real concern would be SHBG build-up but I'd need to research more into that to make any comments. An end-of-cycle mopping up with proviron or winny would likely cope with that, anyway.
 
Ugh...not to steal wolfman's thunder, but I am almost ready to do my first cycle. Everyone tells me that i should test E 500 mg weekly, but now i read 250 mg. I am conservative, and want to build my swimmers built, not to become Arnold. advice??
 
i read about 3/4th's of that post in the link and i'm sold on the 1g a week after teeter-tottering back and forth.

i read a whole lotta fuss about keeping estrogen under control and having a good diet, so now i have a couple questions. what exactly should i do to keep things under control estrogen wise during and after cycle to keep the bloat and other sides away so i don't "blow-up" as they said?

what foods should i stay away from and what foods should i surround myself with? i know plenty of carbs and protein is what i need but i just can't figure out what to eat so i can keep it consistent (besides shakes). i'm not the best at keeping a diet so i want/need all the help i can get to keep the weight clean.
 
i read a whole lotta fuss about keeping estrogen under control and having a good diet, so now i have a couple questions. what exactly should i do to keep things under control estrogen wise during and after cycle to keep the bloat and other sides away so i don't "blow-up" as they said?
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Proviron 50mgs/ED and AIFM throughout cycle bro!

Do you have your PCT planned out?

I also wish I did this as my first cycle.
 
Another dumb noob question but im trying to learn..
What is AIFM
What is the difference between TEST E and TEST P??
And what would be better to run with winny 50mg ed??
Thanks
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
Another dumb noob question but im trying to learn..
What is AIFM
What is the difference between TEST E and TEST P??
And what would be better to run with winny 50mg ed??
Thanks
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AIFM is an aromatase inhibitor and test e/test p are the same thing but with different esters. test e having the longer ester doesn't need to be injected every day unlike prop which has a shorter ester. i finally got to answer a question! damn i feel good. :p
 
UFC22 said:
Proviron 50mgs/ED and AIFM throughout cycle bro!

Do you have your PCT planned out?

I also wish I did this as my first cycle.
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ok how many sprays should i do a day? no i don't have a pct planned yet but i'm thinking something like clomid 100mg's ed for one week and then 50 mg's ed for 2 weeks along with 2 sprays of aifm throughout the whole pct. i think i'll start this a week after last inject. does this sound good guys?
 
I just finished a pct of clomid and aifm.

I did 8 weeks of test E 500mg per week

I did 2 pumps per day from week 5 of the cycle , the 2 weeks after last injection i dropped it to just one pump a day

Every thing is good , ive keep most of my gains...+85% (not all of the size gain tho, could be just water my body was retaining while on)

But its still early to tell so ill see in a few weeks.
 
wolfman87 said:
ok how many sprays should i do a day? no i don't have a pct planned yet but i'm thinking something like clomid 100mg's ed for one week and then 50 mg's ed for 2 weeks along with 2 sprays of aifm throughout the whole pct. i think i'll start this a week after last inject. does this sound good guys?
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If you are going to do 1000mgs I would definitely get some Aromasin and run it the entire cycle.
 
SYNCMASTER1 said:
Ohh Ok so TEST e would be better..
Where can I get this AIFM?? is it legal?? And Proviron??
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AIFM is a legal supplement you could get it at the AF Store. Check out Ulters post theres a link to the store.
 
gettinripped said:
i enjoyed and gained plenty on 250mg's ew test e for my 1st cycle.
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A good reason to begin low is to experience the emotional changes and side effects without getting in so deep you are in big trouble. Remember, you live with other people too.

I started at 250 mg p/w total, gained some experience and was ready to move up.

At 500 mg p/w I experienced a lot of sides and some short tempered anger, but I was ready for it and knew how to cope.

There is a lot of trial and error, even with the best of gear and recommendations. We are each different.
 
wolfman87 said:
i read about 3/4th's of that post in the link and i'm sold on the 1g a week after teeter-tottering back and forth.

i read a whole lotta fuss about keeping estrogen under control and having a good diet, so now i have a couple questions. what exactly should i do to keep things under control estrogen wise during and after cycle to keep the bloat and other sides away so i don't "blow-up" as they said?

what foods should i stay away from and what foods should i surround myself with? i know plenty of carbs and protein is what i need but i just can't figure out what to eat so i can keep it consistent (besides shakes). i'm not the best at keeping a diet so i want/need all the help i can get to keep the weight clean.
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id use 1mg a day of arimadex if u could get it.
 
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