Test/Deca Dosage Debate

[PuraVida]

I currently have a home brew mix of 640test/430Deca. I plan to run this for 14 weeks. Along with d-bol to start and some winny to end. If I add another 8ml of 250 test to the mix I will get a perfect 2:1 ratio of test/deca and be able to run it 2 more weeks.

My question is what would be best for me to run 640Test/430Deca or 750Test/375Deca?

I have never run test above 600mgs and never ran deca b4.

 

[xrsist]

how many cycles you ran before brother?

 

[Maxx Out]

how many cycles you ran before brother?

Yes! We need a little history first.

 

[PuraVida]

This would be the 5th time I use AAS, but really my 2nd effective cycle with PCT. In my early college years i had a gym partner that swore he knew about steroids and he convinced me to take a 6 week d-bol cycle. Then 2 months later I did a 6 week Winny cycle. Followed my another 6 week winny cycle 3 month later.

So I really wouldn't count those as I had no idea what i was doing and had no PCT protocols. I just listend to the dumb d-bol popping roid monkey friend. Now that I look back he could have seriosly caused damage to himself cause he would stay on dbol for 2-3months dosing any where b/w 30-50mgs a day.

Last Novemebr I did my 1st full fledged cycle of 500test/600EQ for 10 weeks then bumped it up to 600test/800eq for the following 10 weeks. I took some d-bol the 1st 4 weeks and the last 6 weeks of the cycle. I was on a full 20 weeks. Then I did PCT with HCG, clomid, and nolva. I have been off now about 6 months and will plan to start this next cycle in november and run it from 14-16 weeks as described above. 14 weeks 640/430 or 16 weeks 750/350.

Iam 30 years old, 5'4" weighing about 160lbs at about 15% bodyfat. My goals are to bulk up the first 10 weeks and then start to lean out when I start with the winny. My goal is to weight 175-180 with about 7-9% body fat.

My detailed cycle looks like this"

1-6 30mgs d-bol
1-14 640test/430deca
11-16 50mgs winny
14-16 500test
PCT- HCG, Clomid. No nolva due to the deca

If I add more test this is what it would look like:

1-6 30mgs d-bol
1-16 750test/375deca
13-18 50mgs winny
16-18 500test
PCT- HCG, Clomid

So what do you think?

 

[PuraVida]

This would be the 5th time I use anabolic androgenic steroids, but really my 2nd effective cycle with PCT - post cycle therapy - . In my early college years i had a gym partner that swore he knew about steroids and he convinced me to take a 6 week Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle. Then 2 months later I did a 6 week Winstrol - stanozolol cycle. Followed my another 6 week Winstrol - stanozolol cycle 3 month later.

So I really wouldn't count those as I had no idea what i was doing and had no PCT protocols. I just listend to the dumb Dianabol - methandrostenolone - popping roid monkey friend. Now that I look back he could have seriosly caused damage to himself cause he would stay on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 2-3months dosing any where b/w 30-50mgs a day.

Last Novemebr I did my 1st full fledged cycle of 500test/600EQ for 10 weeks then bumped it up to 600test/800eq for the following 10 weeks. I took some Dianabol - methandrostenolone - the 1st 4 weeks and the last 6 weeks of the cycle. I was on a full 20 weeks. Then I did PCT with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , clomid, and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . I have been off now about 6 months and will plan to start this next cycle in november and run it from 14-16 weeks as described above. 14 weeks 640/430 or 16 weeks 750/350.

Iam 30 years old, 5'4" weighing about 160lbs at about 15% bodyfat. My goals are to bulk up the first 10 weeks and then start to lean out when I start with the Winstrol - stanozolol. My goal is to weight 175-180 with about 7-9% body fat.

My detailed cycle looks like this"

1-6 30mgs Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
1-14 640test/430deca
11-16 50mgs Winstrol - stanozolol
14-16 500test
PCT- HCG, Clomid. No Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - due to the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

If I add more test this is what it would look like:

1-6 30mgs Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
1-16 750test/375deca
13-18 50mgs Winstrol - stanozolol
16-18 500test
PCT- HCG, Clomid

So what do you think?

I forgot to add that I used AIFM throughout my 1st full cycle and never once got puffy itchy nipples and no gyno even at 600mgs test. I plan to use AIFM again.

 

[machinehead]

Hi,

I think you do few mistakes.

My suggestions:

1. Too much pressure on your liver, I don't think the winny should be in your cycle, Dbol is enough.
Remember: nolvadex is also hepatotoxic.
2. You have to take the HCG while on, in the PCT only SERM and liver protection, you can take the HCG for 1 month between 14-18 weeks(for the first plan).
3. Where is your liver protection? Dbol is hepatotoxic.
4. Which AI do you use and when?

 

[PuraVida]

Hi,

I think you do few mistakes.

My suggestions:

1. Too much pressure on your liver, I don't think the Winstrol - stanozolol should be in your cycle, Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is enough.
Remember: nolvadex is also hepatotoxic.
2. You have to take the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - while on, in the PCT - post cycle therapy - only selective estrogen receptor modulator and liver protection, you can take the HCG for 1 month between 14-18 weeks(for the first plan).
3. Where is your liver protection? Dbol is hepatotoxic.
4. Which aromatase inhibitor do you use and when?

1)The winny is going to be at the end of the cycle to lean out. Iam not dumping the winny if I dump anythig it will be the d-bol at the begining of the cycle since the Deca will make me bloat anyway. Plus Iam not using Nolva at all during this cycle cause I will be using Deca and I have read that using progesterone based aas and nolva together can cause gyno.

2)Taking HCG during cycle is good but all it does is help in the recovery at the end of you cycle. During my last cycle I only used it during PCT and my nuts blew up to their regular size in the 1st week. I might buy another bottle and use it during cycle this time just to aid the recover if I jump to 750/350.

3)As far as liver protection I was going to be taking Milk Thistle (Silybum marianum 80%) at 525mg daily through out the cycle.

4) I will be using AIFM throught the cycle and PCT. I might get some letrozole since I will be taking such high doses of AAS. Just for emergency.



SO what do you guys think?

750/375
or
640/430

 

[solidspine]

You and I are about the same size.


With regards to the Test I would run that at 750
With regards to the Deca I would run that at 750 also..

Either way you should grow and do well on that cycle.

 

[PuraVida]

You and I are about the same size.


With regards to the Test I would run that at 750
With regards to the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - I would run that at 750 also..

Either way you should grow and do well on that cycle.

I have herd from several sources that the ideal run with deca is a 2:1 ratio. 500/250 or 750/375. The reason for this is to control Deca dick and the progesterone side effects.

Anyone else want to chime in?

 

[holy ghost]

least sie affects do the second one

i had a friend who was running 500mg test e: ew,,, and 100mg mon wed fri of test p ,,and 400mg deca and he still got deca dick so go figure

 

[thelion2005]

I currently have a home brew mix of 640test/430Deca. I plan to run this for 14 weeks. Along with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - to start and some Winstrol - stanozolol to end. If I add another 8ml of 250 test to the mix I will get a perfect 2:1 ratio of test/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and be able to run it 2 more weeks.

My question is what would be best for me to run 640Test/430Deca or 750Test/375Deca?

I have never run test above 600mgs and never ran Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - b4.

I run 2 parts test to one part nandro.

 

[ALIN]

I currently have a home brew mix of 640test/430Deca. I plan to run this for 14 weeks. Along with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - to start and some Winstrol - stanozolol to end. If I add another 8ml of 250 test to the mix I will get a perfect 2:1 ratio of test/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and be able to run it 2 more weeks.

My question is what would be best for me to run 640Test/430Deca or 750Test/375Deca?

I have never run test above 600mgs and never ran Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - b4.

i bet either would do you well. i usuallY suggest 2mg per lb of bodyweight for DECA

 

[Varga]

Running Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for that long is not that smart if you care about recovery time

I'll bet you that you will change your cycle around week 8,9 or 10 or stop it early.

 

[PuraVida]

Running Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for that long is not that smart if you care about recovery time

I'll bet you that you will change your cycle around week 8,9 or 10 or stop it early.

You might be right. If I reach my goals by week 8-10 I will probably cut it short and leave the rest for a future cycle.

Iam bumping it to 750/375 and will run it tillI reach my weight goals.