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Teen Steroid Use

Wildcatz55

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We all know that steroid use should not happen unless one is at least 21 years of age and been training for years with diet in check and etc.

but,

were one to use steroids at like 17 18 or 19

which steroid if used would be least harmful and least likely to cause permanent damage to growth plates etc.

do not simply post dont use etc, thats not the point of this thread.

options would be either

1.) 12 weeks of test ethanate @ 250 mg ew with proper pct (hcg, dermacraine, etc.)

2.) winstrol, primobolan, proviron cycle for 8-9 weeks.


which of the above 2???

ive also heard that anavar can be used at any age without any adverse growth effects because it is even given to children with growth problems.


any input would help.
 
i did 500 mgs of test enanthate all summerlong when i was 19 and it put like 30 pounds on me lol....people from high school couldnt even recognize me ....even tho most of the weight i put on was bloat i still felt awesome cause i was always that real skinny guy that got fucked with in high school
 
do not simply post dont use etc, thats not the point of this thread.


What is the point of this thread? The reason why I said that is because teens taking steroids is just bad news, regardless whether or not they experience permenant long term growth problems.
 
anyone under 18 shouldn't use steroids.

anyone under 21 would be strongly advised not to.

but test would be the worst choice for a teenager.

also anavar would is usually considered safe for younger people in THERAPEUTIC doses. which is less than 15mg a day. not the 50-100mg a day used in a muscle-building cycle.

btw you won't get anyone telling you what to run as a teenager. but stay away from test.
 
to answer which would be better for a 17 18 or 19 year old to use...

option 1 or 2.

and if a user of this age could do them without adverse effects.
 
why waste your money on roids at that age. hi tthe weights and spend sme money on the ladies and condoms.
 
10001110101 said:
anyone under 18 shouldn't use steroids.

anyone under 21 would be strongly advised not to.

but test would be the worst choice for a teenager.

also anavar would is usually considered safe for younger people in THERAPEUTIC doses. which is less than 15mg a day. not the 50-100mg a day used in a muscle-building cycle.

btw you won't get anyone telling you what to run as a teenager. but stay away from test.


I agree. 21 is way too young.
 
Primo and Winny would be some light alternatives in my opinion. I totally agree that 18 and under is too young (unless you're planning on being Olympia at some point). DO NOT mess with test at all at this age. Primo will give you lean mass and quality strength gains.
 
You guys tell that to the pro that under 21 is too young. Sure to do it as safe as you can under 21 is a bad idea. I have proven every skeptic wrong so far and i will continue to do so until i get where i want to be.
 
i started when i was 19 and my boy started when he was 16 and he never had a problem....lol this kid i know from my job actually did a cycle when he was in 7th grade!!! if must of fucked up his growth plates cause hes only like 5'3 and his dad is like 6ft tall
 
Not to endorse this, but:
1. High doses (1mg+ ED) of letro with test might work
2. Everything that doesn't aromatize should be pretty safe

Of course HPTA suppression and post-cycle estrogen rebound would still be a problem.
 
????

1mg/ day of femara is good for several grams of gear
tren ace doesn't aromatize , does that mean it's 100% safe?

Maybe we should have some non-plat viewable steroid profiles?
This post is bothersome

7i667 said:
Not to endorse this, but:
1. High doses (1mg+ ED) of Femera - letrozole - with test might work
2. Everything that doesn't aromatize should be pretty safe

Of course hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - suppression and post-cycle estrogen rebound would still be a problem.
 
trenbolone enanthate is even safer than acetate as it has much less sides, only drawbacks is it stays in your system a while longer, still im runiing letrozole with my test and tren, i got my whole pct sorted out which consists of hcg, clomid, tribulus and dermacrine sustain to bring back my natural test back still
 
gjohnson5 said:
????

1mg/ day of femara is good for several grams of gear
trenbolone ace doesn't aromatize , does that mean it's 100% safe?

Maybe we should have some non-plat viewable steroid profiles?
This post is bothersome
OP was mostly concerned about growth plate fusing, and it so happens that Letro also stops plate fusing in adolescents in higher doses.
And you can permanently shut down at 17 as well as 24 if you're prone, so unless you become father in meantime you'll need HCG shots and TRT anyways. And most long term users end up on TRT anyway, thats how it goes, sorry. Kids shouldn't use steroids, but if they think they made conscious decision probably cutting their source is the only thing that would stop them.
Anyway thats what you get for shunning the topic, maybe kid above would be using 20mg of winny instead of cow medicine if somebody would admit that its way fucking safer for him.
 
I was interested in this thread due to the age of the OP and the posts saying "don't juice until you're 21" covered that part From my perspective that's all that needed to be said

I'm not sure why I skipped over the others and responded to this one. Maybe I found it worse then some of the others I've read

I dunno , but it didn't sound well thought out or informed

7i667 said:
OP was mostly concerned about growth plate fusing, and it so happens that Femera - letrozole - also stops plate fusing in adolescents in higher doses.
And you can permanently shut down at 17 as well as 24 if you're prone, so unless you become father in meantime you'll need HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - shots and TRT anyways. And most long term users end up on TRT anyway, thats how it goes, sorry. Kids shouldn't use steroids, but if they think they made conscious decision probably cutting their source is the only thing that would stop them.
Anyway thats what you get for shunning the topic, maybe kid above would be using 20mg of Winstrol - stanozolol instead of cow medicine if somebody would admit that its way fucking safer for him.
 
b_light said:
You guys tell that to the pro that under 21 is too young. Sure to do it as safe as you can under 21 is a bad idea. I have proven every skeptic wrong so far and i will continue to do so until i get where i want to be.

The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.



:cow:
I was thinking the same thing when I read his thread.
If someone plays Russian Roulette and survives, that doesn't make it safe.
 
I wouldn't recommend test to a dude this age. He's already got high test levels. Primo and Winny all the way for this age.



QUOTE=7i667]Not to endorse this, but:
1. High doses (1mg+ ED) of Femera - letrozole - with test might work
2. Everything that doesn't aromatize should be pretty safe

Of course hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - suppression and post-cycle estrogen rebound would still be a problem.[/QUOTE]
 
samoth said:
The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.



:cow:

Good post 100% agree!

The 17 year old handing out advice on this thread burns my ass! WTF?
I know in his undeveloped teen brain he thinks he is one smart dude but some day his choices may haunt him for life.

I agree urging them to make the best choices is all we can do.

BigGuyPHX
 
This is the problem I see.

I look at it like this, the first drug I ever used was smoking pot when I was 14. I strongly advise against this, but to this day I don't see any health effects. That does not mean it didn't affect the way my brain developed. I also had the good sense to stop smoking after a few months of experimenting until I got to college, after which I only smoked occasionally.

No one would EVER recommend to me that I start smoking pot at 14, and believe you me the "dangers" of pot are WAY WAY overplayed, in fact its much less harmful (if harmful at all) than alcohol or nicotine.

The point is, introducing certain substances to your body while it's still developing can affect that development, whether its the proper development of your brain, your hormonal balance, or your physical growth. None of these things are finished until your early to mid 20's (sometimes later).

Therefore it is NOT REASONABLE to ever advise anyone who is not FULLY developed to interfere with that development.

Often the unintended consequences of these actions may not ever be truly seen as they merely limit potential, so it is hard to say how tall a person ever would have grown or that they may have had a fantastic natural physique and sex drive lasting into their 60's that was stunted by introducing exogenous hormones.

It's hard to believe or accept any of this as a teenager, but it is so so important.

I am not saying this to condemn or look down upon anyone who has made the decision to begin using steroids (or other substances) at a young age. It is a choice you have made, but it needs to be an adult decision, because it can have adult consequences.

wow that's a little preachy. sorry.
 
10001110101 said:
This is the problem I see.

I look at it like this, the first drug I ever used was smoking pot when I was 14. I strongly advise against this, but to this day I don't see any health effects. That does not mean it didn't affect the way my brain developed. I also had the good sense to stop smoking after a few months of experimenting until I got to college, after which I only smoked occasionally.

No one would EVER recommend to me that I start smoking pot at 14, and believe you me the "dangers" of pot are WAY WAY overplayed, in fact its much less harmful (if harmful at all) than alcohol or nicotine.

The point is, introducing certain substances to your body while it's still developing can affect that development, whether its the proper development of your brain, your hormonal balance, or your physical growth. None of these things are finished until your early to mid 20's (sometimes later).

Therefore it is NOT REASONABLE to ever advise anyone who is not FULLY developed to interfere with that development.

Often the unintended consequences of these actions may not ever be truly seen as they merely limit potential, so it is hard to say how tall a person ever would have grown or that they may have had a fantastic natural physique and sex drive lasting into their 60's that was stunted by introducing exogenous hormones.

It's hard to believe or accept any of this as a teenager, but it is so so important.

I am not saying this to condemn or look down upon anyone who has made the decision to begin using steroids (or other substances) at a young age. It is a choice you have made, but it needs to be an adult decision, because it can have adult consequences.

wow that's a little preachy. sorry.


Damn bro you sound like Ghandi!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
i'm 19 right now and i ran: 30mg/day dbol for 4 weeks along with test cyp 500mg/week for 10 weeks and i gained about 22 pounds of muscle after it was all said and done (i lost 3 pounds after coming off). that was my first cycle and i had zero problems except for a short temper (more pronounced in the beginning think it had to do with the dbol) that i quickly learned to keep under control and i actually think that i can control myself better now in all aspects b/c of it.

another thing that i noticed was that i never really lost my boys and ability. yes they didn't hang as low but they still had some swagger, and i think that is because the younger you are the better your body can adapt and recover.

i had people telling me that it was unsafe, stupid, harmful, etc and that i should wait,learn more, grow more and all that shit, but to be perfectly honest i don't regret it one bit. i think that most people saying all that are either a)jealous they couldn't do it at a younger age, or b)genuinely trying to help you but they didn't have experience doing it at a younger age so they are going off of what their older bodies do. i respect everyone that has made the jump to the darkside for whatever reason and i'm not trying to disrespect anyone by saying that some people don't know dick about doing steroids as a teen, for the simple fact that they never did .

i'm not saying that i'm all knowing about doing steroids as a teen because i've only done one measly cycle but i will give my advice any way. my advice to any teen thinking about doing steroids is that you should wait until you are at least 18 (for mental and physical reasons alike) then learn everything you can about the substances you want to use and you may or may not change your mind about them after you have read about them. if you learned up properly you should be 19 by the time you feel adequately informed about the substances you want to use and how and when to use them.

then ask yourself "am i ready? can i control myself enough to hold back the urge to punch a hole in my wall? am i smart enough to realize what the drugs are doing to me and recognize when they are taking over so that i can keep from fucking my 15 year old sisters hot best friend or beating the shit out of the person yelling at me for fucking up their drink?(i work at star bucks)

the things i have said may upset some people and i have one more for them. i wouldn't take steroids as a teen if you don't have prior experience with any recreational drugs or at the very least alcohol for the simple fact that the more experience you have in altered states the more likely you are to be able to recognize a new one and keep your cool because no matter how much you may disagree or hate it, the fact is you just don't have the same experience with your body and mind that older guys doing steroids for the first time have with themselves.

my reason for saying this is, i'm trying to keep people from getting caught doing steroids by their parents or whoever because they go snooping around because they have noticed a change in personality/character. people who have done other drugs are naturally better at hiding the fact that they do them.

you may argue that the physical changes are enough to warrant this and my reply to this is, tell them you're using a new protein powder, NO2 product, amino acid compound, pro hormone (if they wouldn't be to upset about that, but i'd rather deal with that than them finding out about using steroids) or all of the above.

to make myself clear i'm not advocating teen steroid use. i realize there are actual medical dangers involved with it.

in the end it all comes down to the individual, and they have to make the decision for themselves. now me personally, i could listen to a thousand people tell me not to do or to do something and i wouldn't give a flying fuck what any of them said if i had already made up my mind. that's just how i am, but i also try to get all the facts, risks, benefits, dangers,etc before i make up my mind and that's what i want the potential teen steroid user to do.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=104 this is a great place to start learning about different compounds so you don't have to bother the people here with stupid questions like i did before i found this. it also has sample cycles for beginners, intermediate, and professional steroid users. i don't necessarily agree with everything on this site but it is still a great resource for compound info alone. SO CHECK IT OUT lol.

if anyone want's to comment to me personally about any of the things i have just said good or bad pm me because i'm not coming back to this thread. oh and if you're just going to try and tell me off or "flame" me then i wouldn't waste the time because i will read it but i'm not going to give you the satisfaction of a response. i am interested in other opinions/ideas and questions if anyone has any for me. :)
 
wolfman87 said:
i'm 19 right now and i ran: 30mg/day Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 4 weeks along with test testosterone cypionate 500mg/week for 10 weeks and i gained about 22 pounds of muscle after it was all said and done (i lost 3 pounds after coming off). that was my first cycle and i had zero problems except for a short temper (more pronounced in the beginning think it had to do with the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ) that i quickly learned to keep under control and i actually think that i can control myself better now in all aspects b/c of it.

another thing that i noticed was that i never really lost my boys and ability. yes they didn't hang as low but they still had some swagger, and i think that is because the younger you are the better your body can adapt and recover.

i had people telling me that it was unsafe, stupid, harmful, etc and that i should wait,learn more, grow more and all that shit, but to be perfectly honest i don't regret it one bit. i think that most people saying all that are either a)jealous they couldn't do it at a younger age, or b)genuinely trying to help you but they didn't have experience doing it at a younger age so they are going off of what their older bodies do. i respect everyone that has made the jump to the darkside for whatever reason and i'm not trying to disrespect anyone by saying that some people don't know dick about doing steroids as a teen, for the simple fact that they never did .

i'm not saying that i'm all knowing about doing steroids as a teen because i've only done one measly cycle but i will give my advice any way. my advice to any teen thinking about doing steroids is that you should wait until you are at least 18 (for mental and physical reasons alike) then learn everything you can about the substances you want to use and you may or may not change your mind about them after you have read about them. if you learned up properly you should be 19 by the time you feel adequately informed about the substances you want to use and how and when to use them.

then ask yourself "am i ready? can i control myself enough to hold back the urge to punch a hole in my wall? am i smart enough to realize what the drugs are doing to me and recognize when they are taking over so that i can keep from fucking my 15 year old sisters hot best friend or beating the shit out of the person yelling at me for fucking up their drink?(i work at star bucks)

the things i have said may upset some people and i have one more for them. i wouldn't take steroids as a teen if you don't have prior experience with any recreational drugs or at the very least alcohol for the simple fact that the more experience you have in altered states the more likely you are to be able to recognize a new one and keep your cool because no matter how much you may disagree or hate it, the fact is you just don't have the same experience with your body and mind that older guys doing steroids for the first time have with themselves.

my reason for saying this is, i'm trying to keep people from getting caught doing steroids by their parents or whoever because they go snooping around because they have noticed a change in personality/character. people who have done other drugs are naturally better at hiding the fact that they do them.

you may argue that the physical changes are enough to warrant this and my reply to this is, tell them you're using a new protein powder, NO2 product, amino acid compound, pro hormone (if they wouldn't be to upset about that, but i'd rather deal with that than them finding out about using steroids) or all of the above.

to make myself clear i'm not advocating teen steroid use. i realize there are actual medical dangers involved with it.

in the end it all comes down to the individual, and they have to make the decision for themselves. now me personally, i could listen to a thousand people tell me not to do or to do something and i wouldn't give a flying fuck what any of them said if i had already made up my mind. that's just how i am, but i also try to get all the facts, risks, benefits, dangers,etc before i make up my mind and that's what i want the potential teen steroid user to do.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=104 this is a great place to start learning about different compounds so you don't have to bother the people here with stupid questions like i did before i found this. it also has sample cycles for beginners, intermediate, and professional steroid users. i don't necessarily agree with everything on this site but it is still a great resource for compound info alone. SO CHECK IT OUT lol.

if anyone want's to comment to me personally about any of the things i have just said good or bad pm me because i'm not coming back to this thread. oh and if you're just going to try and tell me off or "flame" me then i wouldn't waste the time because i will read it but i'm not going to give you the satisfaction of a response. i am interested in other opinions/ideas and questions if anyone has any for me. :)


I'm a teenager bla bla bla... I'm so smart, nothing happened to me, my choice, I know, cant tell me, etc etc etc

I've been around this board for two months and I'm sick of these little bastards shooting their mouths off. There is some GREAT information and PEOPLE on this board that do nothing but try to help. Almost every teenage post uncovers another know-it-all like above.

I have seen first hand what gear can do to (KIDS) young people and when I or anyone else even trys to say any of the dark side of gear with these CHILDREN they get pissed off and try to show how smart they are.

So I will leave you with this...

Look at how KIDS act today!!! YOU are the reason WHY I never fouled the earth with a CHILD!
I am RICH today because I didnt throw MY life into a mental/financial tailspin to spawn a MONSTER that would know more that me at 17 18 or 19 and NOT LISTEN to a single word I had to say.

Thanks for reminding me of the GREATEST thing I ever did for ME!
NOT HAVE KIDS!!!

I think you should do what you want... OK Pumpkin?

BigGuyPHX

P.S. I bang girls your age on the weekend. College girls with hot bodies!
When you get my age the only thing you will be banging is your head on the table because your little limp pee-pee wont work.
 
I can't believe this kid said "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover" does that mean a 14 year old is better off taking juice than a 19 year old?
 
mickeyb69 said:
I can't believe this kid said "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover" does that mean a 14 year old is better off taking juice than a 19 year old?


Oh yea!!! You didnt know that???

LMAO!

My buddy has a 15 year old son out for football this year, I going to run him over a cycle right now because "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover"


WTF?

BigGuyPHX
 
BigGuyPHX said:
P.S. I bang girls your age on the weekend. College girls with hot bodies!
When you get my age the only thing you will be banging is your head on the table because your little limp pee-pee wont work.


I recall reading in a previous thread about a man who had to stick a needle in the side of his limp "pee-pee" to get an erection. So, all hope isn't exactly lost if your "pee-pee" does stop working. :blow:
 
Wildcatz55 said:
were one to use steroids at like 17 18 or 19

which steroid if used would be least harmful and least likely to cause permanent damage to growth plates etc.

do not simply post dont use etc, thats not the point of this thread.

options would be either

any input would help.

think about it this way young bro,adults can respond to post cycle therapy and actually kickstart their natural testosterone production...the same can't be said about teenagers.there is a good chance you can permanently shut down your natural testosterone production....for the rest of your fucking life.imagine having to have to be on hormone replacement therapy because you fucked yourself over by making a bad decision at your age.

your body is ALREADY flooded with natural testosterone,and chances are you haven't even been lifting weights for over 3 years........meaning you don't have the slightest bit of muscle maturity or development.you most likely don't even know shit about proper dieting,or weightlifting techniques........and even on gear your results will be HIGHLY dependent on those two exact issues.if you choose to make the wrong decision chances are your gains will be really limited and you stand a good chance on permanently fucking your system up.

so choose wisely.

a realistic option I would advise to you

train with heavy weights but clean form,increase your protein and caloric intake,get plenty of rest and pass the 200lb mark naturally.train intensely until you reach your early 20's then educate yourself as much as you can on proper steroid cycles,post cycle therapy,ais and serms..........then and only then can you make a wise decision.
 
I am 18 an i am about 6 feet tall and 153 pounds i take protien like crazy and eat all the time but cant put on any wheigh i am strongly thiink about taking steroids but i dont what my body to look funny
 
ximor said:
I am 18 an i am about 6 feet tall and 153 pounds i take protien like crazy and eat all the time but cant put on any wheigh i am strongly thiink about taking steroids but i dont what my body to look funny
do you train solely with heavy weights low reps...like reps of only 3-5 and focus on core lifts like bench squat dl mp...

I bet I could get you to gain weight with out aas
 
ximor you have alot further to go. I started out at 145lbs 6ft tall and got to 185-190lbs in a year with no juice.
 
ximor said:
I am 18 an i am about 6 feet tall and 153 pounds i take protien like crazy and eat all the time but cant put on any wheigh i am strongly thiink about taking steroids but i dont what my body to look funny



No offence, but are you sure you actually have a good diet down? I mean, a lot of people like to talk about how they "eat like crazy" and "take protein like crazy" when in reality all they do is have two protein shakes a day and take some vitamins. Not trying to call you out on this... well, yeah, I am. Can you tell me what your diet looks like?
 
I posted up my diet either on here or muscle talk a while ago. I don't bullshit when i say i know what im doing and eating enough. I eat between 4-4.5k cals a day. Just to give you an idea of my gains i have gained a little over 60lbs and i have been lifting for a little less then 1.5 years.
 
b_light said:
I posted up my diet either on here or muscle talk a while ago. I don't bullshit when i say i know what im doing and eating enough. I eat between 4-4.5k cals a day. Just to give you an idea of my gains i have gained a little over 60lbs and i have been lifting for a little less then 1.5 years.



My post was in no way, shape, or form directed torwards you.
 
b_light said:
You guys tell that to the pro that under 21 is too young. Sure to do it as safe as you can under 21 is a bad idea. I have proven every skeptic wrong so far and i will continue to do so until i get where i want to be.


Bro, no disrespect at all but you dont even look like you are on a cycle.. Are you taking pro-hormones like Superdrol or something?
 
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