Tear apart my next cutting cycle

[hitmeoff]

Hey bro's and broettes,

My second cycle is just about due and its gonna be a cutting cycle. My first cycle was a pretty mean one, but loved every minute of it! This is what im thinking:

Weeks 1-3: T3
Weeks 4-5: Clen
Week 6: ECA
Weeks 7-9: T3
Weeks 10-11: Clen
Weeks 12-16: ECA
Weeks 1-5: Var @ 40mg ED
Weeks 1-10: EQ @ 600mg
Weeks 1-12: Test Prop/Susp @ 100mg ED
Weeks 1-12: Fina @ 100mg ED
Weeks 8-12: Winny @ 100mg ED
Weeks 1-11: Arimidex @ .5mg ED
Weeks 1-12: Provirion @ 25mg-50mg ED
Weeks 12-14: HCG
Weeks 12-16: Nolva @ 20mg ED
Weeks 13-16: Clomid
Plus Weekly or Bi Monthly 3-day DNP Blitzes

Either this looks way too complicated or just explained very thoroughly! Lemme get your thoughts.

 

[onemind]

What did your first cycle look like. Thats a lot of things to take at once especialy for a second cycle.

 

[oubeta]

Looks a little heavy for me, but doesn't look that bad. I like to do tons of cardio when I cut and Fina, well lets say I can't even walk up stairs on fina for the first 4 weeks or so. Don't forget the ala. It seems to be getting me cut up pretty good.

 

[gilly6993]

you're missing drol, halo, primo, GH, insulin.......

way to much gear IMO.....that's a lot for a 5th or 6th cycle let alone a 2nd....you're setting yourself up for problems in the future using that much so early in the game.

 

[hitmeoff]

Yup I will be featuring plenty of ALA, NAC and Tyler's Liver Detox. Love that shit.

Anyway, my first cycle went something like this:

Week 0-5: Dbol @ 30mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Test Enan @ 500mg
Weeks 1-10: Deca @ 400mg
Weeks 7-12: Fina @ 75mg ED
Weeks 8-12: IP Winny @ 75mg ED
Plus .5mg of arim ED through Week 16

 

[oubeta]

From what I've learned about cutting cycles unless you are a pro they are not needed at least not that heavy of one. I know many people will disagree with me on this.

I think if you really I mean really watch your diet and know your body you can get great results. A hardcore buddy of mine got great results off 100mg/ED of Fina and that's it.

Now bulking IMO is a different story.

 

[hitmeoff]

Yeah I hear ya man, but i have the WORST body type EVER. Im not a Ectomorph...or an Ecto-Meso, or a Meso, or a Meso-Endo, or a Endo...im an Ecto-Endo!!!! I have a hard time putting on any kind of muscle, usually requieres me to eat like a pig who just smoked a blunt. I also put on fat VERY easily. Just a bit over maintanance and my BF goes crazy. So how does a person like me, who requires a ton of calories to build muscle, and whose metabolism is slow that any normal amount of calories will put a lot fat on him?

Everytime I try to loose fat, I loose a ton of muscle. Loosing decent amounts of fat, required me to run for an hour every day, go on Keto-Diet, and of course hard training. While on a keto diet, I did ingest A TON of protien. And while I DID loose fat, it was only a matter of weeks before this would start to make me loose serious muscle.

Wheneever I tried to gain muscle, I also put on fat. My diet, though clean, still had to have plenty of cals over maintanance for me to gain. And no matter how clean and how low glycemic my diet was, I would always put on FAT, and ALOT of it.

I juice because of this. My first cycle was heavy, like this one. But it allowed me to bulk up real nice without having to eat as much as i did before, and thus, I didnt gain as much fat as I normally do when I bulk.

This cycle is heavy, because I want to do plenty of cardio, and lower my caloric intake to really get ripped, but I dont want to loose ANY muscle or strength.

Beleive me guys, I work damn hard in the gym and have been for over 8 years. I also watch what I eat very carefully. I rest as much as college kid can rest. But the simple fact is that Im the ULTIMATE hard gainer...

 

[oubeta]

I'm the same way. It's hard being in college to eat right.
I think we just have to live with a little extra fat to be big. The reason I said that was I see so many people who have good genetics who are uneducated or just not willing to put the time in.
I see you know what you are talking about. We really have to work twice as hard as others to get where we want to be. I want to be ripped, but when I bulk I get round and thick. Then I cut, well I lose most of my muscle and still don't have a 6 pack. I've never done a cutting cycle that big, but it might be the only way for people like us. I'm going to change a few things up with my diet and if that doesn't work, well I might just have to resort to that. Keep us updated.

 

[soflaguy]

Looks like the fist 5 weeks will be:
Var40mg/ED + EQ/600mg + Test/100mgED + Fina/100mgED
AND T3 + Clen

I don't think you will be able to do much cardio with all that in your body.
You will be sweating so damn much, plus your pumps will be so intense by week 3 you will be barely be able to walk.

AND you are still in college?? Geez, hope she is worth it.

 

[Mavy]

Jesus!

Your asking for trouble dude! You know as well as i do that your future cycles will only go up, not down!! What are your stats, age? Id say that your cycle would get the job done, but it is overkill!

Stick to the basics man ...
Regular cutting drugs - Whinny, Test, primo or fina
Eat Clean (very important!)
Plain ol hard work, and smart training (lots of cardio)

There is no easy way out (unless you want take every steroid known to man on your second cycle) haha!

Good luck!

 

[PatBateman]

so you want to cut? let me save you some money and agony of putting together that mess of a cycle you have above:


test/fina/aromasin(or femara)/diet/training


good luck!

 

[Big-Puncher]

so you want to cut? let me save you some money and agony of putting together that mess of a cycle you have above:


test/fina/aromasin(or femara)/diet/training


good luck!

No shit. That will work perfectly, if you want, you could even ut winny in there as well. Thats all you need to get quality gains and lean up.

 

[bmit]

Damn it seems crazy for 2nd cyc. Just hit 75/ed fina and 50/edwinny 6-8 wks, that's what I did and for spring break girls were staring. Sick combination, favorite cycle. Save your money on the var or give it your girlfriend. If running fina run 250-350 test/wk if you want a sex life with anti-e.