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Ya mine all dissolved fine. Just wanted to make sure it was supposed to arrive that way. Rats are in the middle of second week now. Saw some random thread on another site and some dude said he was gonna pin 10mg a day if he got the money. ??!!! Would that even be worth it/ help?
 
Great white sells sterile water not bac water. Is sterile water fine to mix the tb-500 with or should I order bac water somewhere else?
 
Yeah i had little crusty tablets in the bottom but it mixed in 30 secs. The tummy subq inject was nuthin either. I did a full mL for the 4mg, but next time i'm thinking half a mL. I did 2x 2mg in one pin and my 5's should be coming in this week. Along for the ride.
 
jdcsd said:
Great white sells sterile water not bac water. Is sterile water fine to mix the tb-500 with or should I order bac water somewhere else?
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I'm using my melatonin2 bac water, but i'm curious about this as well. Not finding a lot of sites that sell bacteriostatic water, mainly medical suppliers which I'm not sure if they work with the general public.
 
Alright.. Another one bites the dust. If this is just half as effective as people say there will be one more happy rat out there. gwp restocked their 5s for the people that still waiting.
 
my rat is now saying that the benefits are the day after injection. then it kinda wears off. not sure if this is a coincidence or what.

but i guess it does take time for it to build up in the system before you put your rat on a maintenance dose .. so what i am gonna do is do 2mg every 2-3 days for 4-6 weeks instead of doing once a week injections. so it comes out to 5mg a week anyway that way just spread out. anyone have a negative opinion of doing it that way?
 
stevesmi said:
my rat is now saying that the benefits are the day after injection. then it kinda wears off. not sure if this is a coincidence or what.

but i guess it does take time for it to build up in the system before you put your rat on a maintenance dose .. so what i am gonna do is do 2mg every 2-3 days for 4-6 weeks instead of doing once a week injections. so it comes out to 5mg a week anyway that way just spread out. anyone have a negative opinion of doing it that way?
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My female rat said the same thing...so been giving her and male rat 2.5mg Mon-Thur...then will switch to their maintenance dose after a few weeks too...see how that goes.

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oxymoron said:
I'm using my melatonin2 bac water, but i'm curious about this as well. Not finding a lot of sites that sell bacteriostatic water, mainly medical suppliers which I'm not sure if they work with the general public.
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Amazon bro. They are all you need: pins of all sizes, viles, BW. Check there. Again, it's melanotan ;) I hope you aren't injecting melatonin lol
 
stevesmi said:
my rat is now saying that the benefits are the day after injection. then it kinda wears off. not sure if this is a coincidence or what.

but i guess it does take time for it to build up in the system before you put your rat on a maintenance dose .. so what i am gonna do is do 2mg every 2-3 days for 4-6 weeks instead of doing once a week injections. so it comes out to 5mg a week anyway that way just spread out. anyone have a negative opinion of doing it that way?
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Interesting! This could get expensive!
 
Your supposed to use a new bac water after its been open for 28 days. Sterile water is one time use and you toss the whole bottle out. With this being the case it makes the most sense to but a 25 pack of sterile water on amazon for 39 bucks since with the tb-500 you are only doing once monthly shots after the fist six weeks. Doesnt make sense to buy a 30 or 20ml bac water for much more money and throw away most of it. I got a 30ml sterile water from great white for 5 bucks so im gonna have to throw 28ml away. Just placed an order on amazon 25 pack for 39! Way better deal
 
Jack steel said:
Amazon bro. They are all you need: pins of all sizes, viles, BW. Check there. Again, it's melanotan ;) I hope you aren't injecting melatonin lol
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Nah man. The melatonin2 peptide orders from chemicalneed include a kit with a big bac water vial.

We could probably lobby a gwp or cn rep to start carrying bac water. Look at this thread and at other boards.... there is obviously a growing tb500 fiend population.

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Okay so My rats are very interested in this!
Few questions first!
I put 1ml of BAC water into the 2mg vial of tb? Mix it and inject?

Also can this be IM or does it have to be sub q, damn rats with all there questions =D


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Dedication777 said:
Okay so My rats are very interested in this!
Few questions first!
I put 1ml of BAC water into the 2mg vial of tb? Mix it and inject?

Also can this be IM or does it have to be sub q, damn rats with all there questions =D

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Id say it has to be subq b/c ive seen zero instructions on any site discussing intramuscle. I recommend 0.5 mL for 2mg. Im gonna just use 0.5 for 5mg next wk. Pop the cap and inject the bac water into the tb vial and swirl for a while picking up all the dry fragments and then draw it into a slin pin or thin gauge and pinch a spot of skin on ur belly and wipe with alcohol or prep pad and inject away. Its literally zero pain with a slin needle. I did a full mL and had a little seepage back out but just a drop.

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oxymoron said:
Id say it has to be subq b/c ive seen zero instructions on any site discussing intramuscle. I recommend 0.5 mL for 2mg. Im gonna just use 0.5 for 5mg next wk. Pop the cap and inject the bac water into the tb vial and swirl for a while picking up all the dry fragments and then draw it into a slin pin or thin gauge and pinch a spot of skin on ur belly and wipe with alcohol or prep pad and inject away. Its literally zero pain with a slin needle. I did a full mL and had a little seepage back out but just a drop.

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absolutely... .5 is all thats needed for 5 mg... its sub q, painless and easy... there are videos out there that can help too if you still need help...
 
Had to order 10 - 2mg bottles for my rats for now...the 5mg was just back in stock, now out again...tells you what a quality product it is for the price!

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muscleaddiction said:
Had to order 10 - 2mg bottles for my rats for now...the 5mg was just back in stock, now out again...tells you what a quality product it is for the price!

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I was thinking about ordering. How long would that or when the 5 mg's are back in would that last?
 
Hey folks I don't know if this has been answered yet, but my rats were wondering if combining this with a low dose of deca could really help with their joints more than just the tb500 alone?
 
Phiba Optik said:
Hey folks I don't know if this has been answered yet, but my rats were wondering if combining this with a low dose of deca could really help with their joints more than just the tb500 alone?
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we've had atleast 3 threads about this and most of the vets on this site agree that deca is not worth it at all. in fact having run deca twice i had zero benefits to my joints on it.

run deca to build muscle mass and run it correctly.. don't run it for just your joints. horrible reason to run it IMO
 
Tried to pick up bac water a walgreens and the shithead pharmacist freaked out. He asked what i was using it for and i said tb-500 a vet medication that i'm using for my great dane and he said yeah right and said my story didn't sound right...lol. i told him whatever if he wasn't gonna help me then i'll just get it at cvs (they already said they don't carry it btw) and walked out.
 
oxymoron said:
Tried to pick up bac water a walgreens and the shithead pharmacist freaked out. He asked what i was using it for and i said tb-500 a vet medication that i'm using for my great dane and he said yeah right and said my story didn't sound right...lol. i told him whatever if he wasn't gonna help me then i'll just get it at cvs (they already said they don't carry it btw) and walked out.
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the pharmacist has no idea what Tb500 is anyway. gotta get that stuff online .. one of our sponsors cheapinz has it. they have never let me down
 
I know rexall drugs carry it here in Alberta if any Canadian members are looking to grab some . There is one in Edmonton that you can grab any pins/ bac water/ basically all the supplies you need to run a full on cycle.



Ride it like you stole it!!
 
stevesmi said:
the pharmacist has no idea what Tb500 is anyway. gotta get that stuff online .. one of our sponsors cheapinz has it. they have never let me down
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yeah he was just trying to act tough in front of the cute pharmacy worker girls in there lol.
Thanks steve looking it up now on cheappinz. Gotten syringes there but never paid attention to all the other products.
Here's a link to the bac water for anyone needin...
Water : Cheap Pinz!, Cheap Pinz, : Quality medical supplies @ the lowest prices online
 
Pharmacists are annoying. Who are they to decide if you're believable or not? Maybe that's dumb to ask considering he IS the pharmacist lol. Either way it's dumb to withhold accessories like that i think. I love Austin's policy of letting people hand out free clean needles for addicts and all. Just drop by a smoke shop and grab 'em!
 
oxymoron said:
yeah he was just trying to act tough in front of the cute pharmacy worker girls in there lol.
Thanks steve looking it up now on cheappinz. Gotten syringes there but never paid attention to all the other products.
Here's a link to the bac water for anyone needin...
Water : Cheap Pinz!, Cheap Pinz, : Quality medical supplies @ the lowest prices online
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wish you would of made him look like an idiot in front of her then. that would of been funny.

its amazing how much more knowledgeable we are on here compared to these medical 'professionals' who don't know shit.
 
Gave my rat his weekly 2 mgs this morning
I swear a few hours later his whole body loosens right up ..


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Just gave the rat 2.5mg. Going to try 2.5 Monday and Thursday this week. Last week I gave the rat 5mg Monday only. I think I am feeling the effects but still not quite sure. We will see this week.
 
i wonder about what would happen if u stopped giving it to ur rat after a few months... would it of re grew cells and healed ur rats issues? or would ur prior rat issues come back? one of the reasons i got this was i dont want to give my rat a drug that will actually cause more damage long term like a cortico or oxy
 
I wish like hell I could send my rat off running every day on this stuff. I want him building mass so I keep him off the treadmill. I know his endurance is great right now though. Had to try it out yesterday :) I felt like maybe I should try out for the Olympics!!! ;P
 
Anyone else have burning pain when injecting it and after? I guess I'll try .5 ml instead of 1 ml maybe that will help? For 2mg tb 500?
 
Burning pain??? something isn't right bro. what supplier? what size needle?
I doubt the amount of bac water is causing a burn although u should use less for 2mg.

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oxymoron said:
Tried to pick up bac water a walgreens and the shithead pharmacist freaked out. He asked what i was using it for and i said tb-500 a vet medication that i'm using for my great dane and he said yeah right and said my story didn't sound right...lol. i told him whatever if he wasn't gonna help me then i'll just get it at cvs (they already said they don't carry it btw) and walked out.
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I know you can get bac water at a couple online sites that's a name brand water.

melanotanpeptide.com
theclenstore.com

Those are just a few that have legit name brand bac. water.

And bac water does not have to be thrown out after 28 days or a month. Not sure why some believe that. It has alcohol in it to keep it good for longer use.

If you worry you can store it in the freezer for lots longer. But keeping it in the medicine cabinet is just fine for extended periods of time.
There is a national backorder of bac. water so that's why it's tougher to find right now. No supply until Oct. from what I've been told by some labs.
 
You can get bac water on amazon right now. A medical web site I read that if stored in the fridge the bac water is good for 28 days once it's first used. It can last a long time if not opened. You could use it as long as you want but that is the suggested time from first use. I'm sure people use it much longer without problems but I'd rather toss it and use a new one to be safe.
 
And yes the preservative is what makes it last longer but the longer is 28 days vs single use sterile water with no preservative. That you toss any left same day
 
jdcsd said:
Anyone else have burning pain when injecting it and after? I guess I'll try .5 ml instead of 1 ml maybe that will help? For 2mg tb 500?
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May be a silly question, you did use bac water? Did you use alcohol and cotton swab and get some in the pin location? Did you agitate the needle once you went in and move it around possible scratching tissue beneath the skin?
Just some thoughts...
 
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And yes the preservative is what makes it last longer but the longer is 28 days vs single use sterile water with no preservative. That you toss any left same day
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the chance of getting an infection is slim to none. i've been pinning for years and i've pinned my rats for years. never once got an infection.

really the bac water is mostly used to dilute the powder more than anything. tap water is chock full of bacteria, the spicket itself is full of it. so using bac water is the safe way to go even if its a year old.. i doubt you will have an issue.

swabbing the top of the vial before drawing can't hurt either
 
I over did it the other day on incline flys and next day shoulder hurt like hell deep in the joint. Shoulders later that wk was not close to do-able couldn't even warm up. Was back to chest a couple days after that and no sign of pain, dull soreness, nothing, just felt great. I can't say 100% that it was the tb but I was definitely surprised. This was on 2nd wk at 5mg.

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jdcsd said:
Anyone else have burning pain when injecting it and after? I guess I'll try .5 ml instead of 1 ml maybe that will help? For 2mg tb 500?
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I you mean just a slight burn/tingly feeling then yes, I get that just for a few minutes. I've had it with both ghrp-6 and tb500... Err... My rats have rather. I assumed it was just the BW absorbing. Haven't had any problems.
 
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Nothing to bad that my rats have reported, but more of a kind of rush from tb500 and MT2, but nothing in a bad burning sense...the only unfortunate thing my male rat had last night after both injections of tb500 & MT2 was an erection that wouldn't go away and my female rat wouldn't wake up and take care of my poor male rat...so there was a tent pole looking thing under his covers and he couldn't roll over to sleep...he was a little perturbed.

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Burnthiscorpse said:
Shit like this is kind of making me re think trying TB500....and I really want to too.

Thymosin Beta 4 is overexpressed in human p... [Cancer Biol Ther. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

Thymosin beta 4 induces colon cancer cell migrat... [Cancer Lett. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
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i would say just don't abuse it and use in moderation and you will be fine.

i would argue HGH will boost the chance of cancer and so will anything you put in the body to promote 'growth' so its part of the game either way
 
Fuck walking outside can cause cancer anymore... there's practically a study that says anything can cause it

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dylangemelli said:
Fuck walking outside can cause cancer anymore... there's practically a study that says anything can cause it

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Animal protein can cause cancer...watch Forks Over Knives, western civilization diet will kill you first...processed foods, I can go on and on...
 
muscleaddiction said:
Animal protein can cause cancer...watch Forks Over Knives, western civilization diet will kill you first...processed foods, I can go on and on...
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Read the china study. It pretty much says the same thing about cancer and several other diseases. Its suggest a plant based whole foods diet. Good info backed by lots of actual human studies.
 
eating burned food is a huge no-no with cancer.. especially BBQ'd food that is burned..

UV hitting skin... pesticide exposure, environmental factors.

knew a lady who worked at a plant nursery for 2 years and never wore anything to protect herself from the pesticides, she ended up getting cancer 5 years later. so it happens but you have to be careful what you expose yourself to. those lawn spray companies i would never work for, that is downright crazy being exposed on a daily basis to that shit.

i would say be smart and eat, drink the right things .. anything that could be harmful keep to a bare minimum.. and you will be safe. don't live down wind or down hill from a conventional farm or a polluted lake :)
 
stevesmi said:
i would say just don't abuse it and use in moderation and you will be fine.

i would argue HGH will boost the chance of cancer and so will anything you put in the body to promote 'growth' so its part of the game either way
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I havnt read anything yet that says it actually directly causes cancer. But it definatley causes metastasis which is for instance if you have a localized cancer it will cause it to spread to other areas/organs ect. Thats kinda scary.

I agree with you Steve that not abusing and not running it indefinatley. Im sure its just like most shit..... you might be able to take 10mg wk for 3 years and not have an issue then the next guy uses 2mg wk for 3 months and gets major issues.

I do wish there were some hefty human studies. It seems especially awsome in the lines of post heart attack heart tissue repair and preventing them to begin with.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ if you are cancer prone then stay away from anything that causes growth of cells or growth of any kind. that includes hormones and GH. IMHO.
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Yes I agree. The only case of cancer on either side of the family for me was my father had a freak case of Lymphoma. He also spent the years after his retirement performing services for farmers that had him in close contact with sileage (which they spray with pesticides) So I blame that.
 
So, maybe i'm expecting too much of tb500, but i'm definitely going to say that this stuff doesn't seem like it works for very long after the injection. The day after is great, my rats says, but then it just kinda wears off. My rat's knees have been hurting (though he's been standing A LOT longer periods of time recently), and his back has been giving him problems (also for the same reason). I know this change is the reason for my rats ailments, but i figured it would be preventing knots in the back and keeping the knees nice and loose. I haven't noticed any muscle growth since starting it either, though this effect could take longer periods of time considering i'm still at the end of the loading phase (week 4 of 5mg EW). Now, i know this isn't magic, but i definitely expected a little more by now. Am I being too impatient???
 
I think the only thing that has a better chance of causing cancer is carcinogens, besides that, anything inducing cell growth can cause cancer. To avoid all risk factors is impossible.
 
Jack steel said:
So, maybe i'm expecting too much of tb500, but i'm definitely going to say that this stuff doesn't seem like it works for very long after the injection. The day after is great, my rats says, but then it just kinda wears off. My rat's knees have been hurting (though he's been standing A LOT longer periods of time recently), and his back has been giving him problems (also for the same reason). I know this change is the reason for my rats ailments, but i figured it would be preventing knots in the back and keeping the knees nice and loose. I haven't noticed any muscle growth since starting it either, though this effect could take longer periods of time considering i'm still at the end of the loading phase (week 4 of 5mg EW). Now, i know this isn't magic, but i definitely expected a little more by now. Am I being too impatient???
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My rat is feeling the same way about this. Just started week 3 of 5mg a week. I believe doing Monday and Thursday doses of 2.5mg makes it better.
 
Jack steel said:
So, maybe i'm expecting too much of tb500, but i'm definitely going to say that this stuff doesn't seem like it works for very long after the injection. The day after is great, my rats says, but then it just kinda wears off. My rat's knees have been hurting (though he's been standing A LOT longer periods of time recently), and his back has been giving him problems (also for the same reason). I know this change is the reason for my rats ailments, but i figured it would be preventing knots in the back and keeping the knees nice and loose. I haven't noticed any muscle growth since starting it either, though this effect could take longer periods of time considering i'm still at the end of the loading phase (week 4 of 5mg EW). Now, i know this isn't magic, but i definitely expected a little more by now. Am I being too impatient???
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your not being impatient but you are being unrealistic with your expectations. if your rat has knee problems and is daily doing something to further hurt the knees then you cannot expect this stuff to work miracles.

in my experience so far this stuff helps tremendously but will take you only so far. its up to you to correct whatever mistakes your rat is doing.

as far as muscle gains there is nothing out there that is as good as anabolic steroids for muscle growth.

for the record i love tb500, my rat said he hasn't felt this good in a long time.. i would encourage anyone with a rat who has a nagging injury to give the stuff a shot before resorting to drugs or cortico's (yikes!!)
 
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stevesmi said:
your not being impatient but you are being unrealistic with your expectations. if your rat has knee problems and is daily doing something to further hurt the knees then you cannot expect this stuff to work miracles.

in my experience so far this stuff helps tremendously but will take you only so far. its up to you to correct whatever mistakes your rat is doing.

as far as muscle gains there is nothing out there that is as good as anabolic steroids for muscle growth.

for the record i love tb500, my rat said he hasn't felt this good in a long time.. i would encourage anyone with a rat who has a nagging injury to give the stuff a shot before resorting to drugs or cortico's (yikes!!)
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Thanks Steve. Ya I know you're right. I think I may split up the doses like He mentioned^^^ up there. I think I psych myself out from not pinning as much as before. Don't get me wrong, TB works, but like you said I'm just expecting too much.
 
Hey - So I'm on my fourth week of loading 5 mg of tb500 every week. After this week is over then I should switch over to the maintence dose ( 5mg every mo) right?

Thanks guys
 
stefnnn777 said:
Hey - So I'm on my fourth week of loading 5 mg of tb500 every week. After this week is over then I should switch over to the maintence dose ( 5mg every mo) right?

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you can. Or you can do two more weeks of loading and then start maint. Or you could drop to 2mg per month maintenance if you wanted. Hell, play with it. That's what i'm doing. On a side note I havent had ANY healing factor with cuts on the skin. My rat's had two small cuts, one was significant on his fingers. Very slow healing for one that was almost like a paper cut and took over a week to heal. Right now that's my only complaint. Just ended week 5, and will commence maintenance dosing next month.
 
I might just go one more week (making it 5 weeks) before switching to the maintenance dosage (I was thinking 2mg every week instead of 5 mg monthly) - Thank you for the input! Thats interesting though Jack.. It seems my skin has been looking better & cuts (such as this nasty blister from lifting) heal a bit quicker. Anyone else noticing any other negative/benefits? I'm pumped to start up my SARMS cycle (few days away).. should be a nice combo w/ tb.
 
I love the stuff man.. My shoulder doesn't hurt and my skin looks much better than it used to. Makes my nails grow crazy fst ha
 
Keith1 said:
I love the stuff man.. My shoulder doesn't hurt and my skin looks much better than it used to. Makes my nails grow crazy fst ha
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I notice my nails growing way fast too even on 2 mgs / week. I may just run 2mgs a week forever and not go to Maintanence


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
I was doing some more searching and reading and found this thread from another forum.

TB-500 (Thymosin Beta 4) - Melanotan Forum


Nothing super spectacular but a few little tidbits of interesting info. The OP in the thread is recommending 10mg wk though!!! Damn.
Still searching and reading....wanting to try TB500 SOOOOOOOO bad. I have been in the middle of a two week construction project at my house. So I havnt been able to train (what little i can even do with my fucked up elbow and other shit right now)
But the "work" has been kicking my ass. Grabbing, lifting, pushing boards and other things in a jerking type way has stressed my elbows and forearms to the max. Nothing like the controlled gym movements. My forearms are a solid knot from elbow to hand. Everything aches like hell.
My wife wants me to get a PET scan before trying TB500 though(cancer screening). From everything I am reading it wont cause it. But if you have it or happen to develope it it will make it spread whereas it normally may not. Thats kinda scary. But thats the only down side i can see with TB.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
I was doing some more searching and reading and found this thread from another forum.

TB-500 (Thymosin Beta 4) - Melanotan Forum


Nothing super spectacular but a few little tidbits of interesting info. The OP in the thread is recommending 10mg wk though!!! Damn.
Still searching and reading....wanting to try TB500 SOOOOOOOO bad. I have been in the middle of a two week construction project at my house. So I havnt been able to train (what little i can even do with my fucked up elbow and other shit right now)
But the "work" has been kicking my ass. Grabbing, lifting, pushing boards and other things in a jerking type way has stressed my elbows and forearms to the max. Nothing like the controlled gym movements. My forearms are a solid knot from elbow to hand. Everything aches like hell.
My wife wants me to get a PET scan before trying TB500 though(cancer screening). From everything I am reading it wont cause it. But if you have it or happen to develope it it will make it spread whereas it normally may not. Thats kinda scary. But thats the only down side i can see with TB.
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Nice BTC...will definitely read this when have better mobile connection. That is funny you say that you are getting a workout doing manual labor lol...totally different use of muscles huh? Like you said in a gym...controlled movements, but with manual labor...recruits different muscles, tendons, and ligaments. I work as a supervisor for a DPW and we do all kinds of physical labor from digging/trenching, lifting and installing hydrants, 6"-12" water valves, ductile iron pipe, hand rod sewers, install concrete, respond to winter storms...very taxing work on the body bro! Kind of humbles you a bit...all my co-workers and employees always call me over to help them lift things because I train and bodybuild...but you have to be careful especially with your back and neck, lifting odd or awkward things like bags of concrete, 10-12' lumber, stuff like that can result in a pulled muscle, strained tendon, or even disc issues. Tb500 has been helping my wife and I out at just 2 mg EW after loading 5 mg EW in the beginning...that and a new bed!

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muscleaddiction said:
Nice BTC...will definitely read this when have better mobile connection. That is funny you say that you are getting a workout doing manual labor lol...totally different use of muscles huh? Like you said in a gym...controlled movements, but with manual labor...recruits different muscles, tendons, and ligaments. I work as a supervisor for a DPW and we do all kinds of physical labor from digging/trenching, lifting and installing hydrants, 6"-12" water valves, ductile iron pipe, hand rod sewers, install concrete, respond to winter storms...very taxing work on the body bro! Kind of humbles you a bit...all my co-workers and employees always call me over to help them lift things because I train and bodybuild...but you have to be careful especially with your back and neck, lifting odd or awkward things like bags of concrete, 10-12' lumber, stuff like that can result in a pulled muscle, strained tendon, or even disc issues. Tb500 has been helping my wife and I out at just 2 mg EW after loading 5 mg EW in the beginning...that and a new bed!

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Mostly ....my brachiallis are all fucked up on both sides causing everything. When all was good a few months ago I was getting pain on the first 2-3 heavy reps on BB bench press. Only on the negative. But then it got better as I went on. Well turns out they are pretty inflammed and knotted to hell right now.
The quick jerking of the bicep kills it. Had this problem when I was training for professional wrestling....catching people, picking up quick for body slams ect...quick jerking motion on the biceps kill me.
On the flip side I dug a 4ft deep hole by 4' square last week to plant a big tree. Used a pick axe and shovel obviously....shoulders gave me no issues.
 
Heres another persons reply in a thread I found from somewhere in response to thymosin and the big C word. Makes alot of sense to me. Just thought some of you might like to read. I'll paste it :


"""how are you bro? I have been studying this pep for some time, there are studies that date back all the way to 1984 on it, and like everything else is a bit of trial and error. In the early studies Doctors noticed high amounts of thymosin in cancer patients, for example a lung cancer patient would have elevated levels in affected tissue, so it was thought that thymosin sped up the cancer process, but as they did more research and related the action of TB4 in the body, they concluded that TB4's main action was in the production of T-cells ( white cells) and therefore it was present in areas affected by cancer not to aid the disease but to fight it. Newer studies have concluded that tymosin 4 does not cause cancer , it will actually help in shrinking solid tumors since it helps produce antibodies, but it is not conclusive if it helps the spread of non-solid cancers, there have been conflicting conclusions on this subject, but I would lean for the studies that show TB4 no to aid but fight cancers, solely based on all the other benefits of the peptide. It helps with inflammation, wound healing, muscle production, tendon and ligament healing , nerve repair, even dopamine release. This is an actin that is in every human cell to help us heal so I would very much doubt it would want to kill us as well. Just my opinion from reading up on the subject, I would like to hear other points of view. God bless you. Minister. """
 
"An additional key factor of TB500 is that it promotes cell migration through a specific interaction with actin in the cell cytoskeleton. It has been demonstrated that a central small amino acid long-actin binding domain has both blood cell reproduction and wound healing characteristics. These characteristics are uncovered by accelerating the migration of endothelial cells and keratinocytes. It also increases the production of extracellular matrix-degrading enzymes."

^^^ does this statement mean it helps keep shit out that doesnt need to be there?
 
I wondered if some of the vets on here would mind updating this thread maybe once a month for a few months? I'm very interested in this peptide but I'd like to hear a little more from guys on it after a few months. Maybe just dosages, duration you have been on, and your opinion so far , once a month?
 
ok I'm gonna get my little pony on some then! I already ordered the tb from gwp. What other supplies do i need? I've never pinned anything so I need to know what size to get. I assume I need alcohol wipes? I know you need bac water. thanks guys
 
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