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SYNTHEROL+(test/tren/npp LOG)

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WELL ITS TIME

first LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT, i dont want 1 DUM comment like: sytherol is dangerous, OR 1 dum comment like syntherol is cheating,

it is clear to me that if you have either of these opinions or others that are negative then you clearly have no idea wtf your talking about, or you have no idea about the substance use in modern bodybuilding

secondly is any dum comment about blasting an cruising being dangerous, i am aware of the risks and have taken that into account, so please lets save those comments for someone who gives a shit

now thats clear, lets begin for those who are interested and are here to learn like me

THIS WILL BE MY FIRST EXPERIENCE with syntherol

for those who have any questions, helpful suggestions or discussion to this topic FEEL FREE TO POST and ill happily discuss and consider what you have to say

im doing this LOG PURELY becoz of the lack of information about syntherol and the lack of any peoples experience in this substance, im here to help educate and give guidance to any person in the future who might consider using this substance

i am not here to encourage syntherol use, nor reccomened it, this is for those who like me have acheieved a physique far beyond wat they couldve achieved naturaly, but thanks to genetics theres certain bodyparts that will never develop for us or allow us to compete in competetive bodybuilding

Okay

so heres a little about me

best shape ive been in 236 pounds, 9-10%bf (end of my last blast)

im currently 5'10, 234 pounds, 10-11%bf (cruising on 300mg test cyp)

i currently am cruising on 300mg testerone cypionate

(i dont do PCT or come off gear)

i follow a blast and cruise protocol

some current lifts
incline bench press 405X1
deadlift 660X1
flat bench press 375X2
dumbell curl 60X9
one legged hamstring curl 140X6
standing calve raise 720X8
45 degree leg press i max out, so 2000 pounds and more
squat machine 600X6 (i use machines due to ligament damage in my knees)
lat pull down 380X6
v bar pull downs 405X5
cable row wide grip 375X8
cable row v bar grip 400X6

so heres the plan

THE SYNTHEROL

using 27g, 1/2inch pins, 3ml syringes

FIRST 10 days
i will be injecting 1ml into both heads of the biceps ED
injecting 1 and 1/2ml into the top tricep head and 1ml into the lower head ED
injecting 1 and 1/2ml into the outer tricep head EOD

NEXT 10 days
injecting 2ml into each head of the bicep ED
injecting 2 and 1/2ml into top inner head of the tricep, 1ml into bottom inner head of tricep ED
injecting 2 and 1/2ml into the outer head of the tricep EOD

following 10 days
3ml into each head of the bicep ED
3ml into top inner tricep head, 3ml into lower inner tricep head ED
3ml into outer tricep head EOD

now ill explain,

biceps are following a protocol given to me from research from another forum by a mod named 'big A'

the tricep protocol is similar to BIG A, however i have adjusted slightly since the outer head of the tricep requires less injectins commanly then the inner heads since it generally does not lack behind like the inner triceps, as in my case

THE CYCLE

testerone cypionate 400mg weekly, weeks 1-10
trenbelone ethanthate 600mg weekly, weeks 1-10
NPP 25mg EOD, weeks 1-10
letrozole .3mg EOD estimated (will be adjusted according to how i bloat)

reasons
NPP dose is purely for joint relief, im not looking for a big muscle building effect from it
testerone cyp 400mg for abit of a boost and i find i dont bloat much from it
treneblone eth, my favourite anabolic and the key to me putting on the size this cycle and looking rock solid and lean :), and the onyl anabolic that makes my arms actually grow

I WILL START MY CYCLE 6 days into my syntherol run

I WILL BE POSTING PICS OF MY ARMS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS,
and then at the end of my sytherol run
and then at the end of my cycle
and then 1-2months into cruising to evaluate keep ability of gains

also measurments ill post tomrow


My Goals

im hoping to reach 245 pounds, and bring my arms up to 19 and half inches

THE DIET

im not going to outline my exact diet,
i will be bascialy eating 8-9 meals a day,
total calories will be close to 5500-6000,
being 350 grams protein, 800 carbs, and the rest fats

The training
3 day split
chest, forearms, abs, triceps, shoulders
back, biceps
rest
legs, calves
rest
REPEAT

my workouts always change, therefore im not setting out a program

HERE WE GO:evil:
 
Bloke Whats up with you getting your chick to do all the jabs ,you fat pussy:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Only kiddin bro...good luck with this , subbed for sure !
 
Wish you posted before pics of your arms but I'm following this thread outta curiousity
 
FYI Syntherol is dangerous, it is also cheating. :)
 
awesome log. The only forum that uses synthol really is pro muscle to my knowledge. It's interesting to see one here and I will be following closely out of curiosity
 
I'm giving it another try as well. I'll be following your log. I can't stand all the daily injects though. I already do 2 peptide shots per day no matter what. So, adding in 8 or more im injects is a real pain. I've done it that way before. I'm being lazy now and just doing one head at a time- inner tri this time.

About the whole you'll die if you inject into a vein thing. Yeah, that's a good idea to aspirate. But, I really believe that some of these close calls are due to dirty/bacteria contaminated synthol vs. injecting into a vein. Milos was a famous example and was open about his experiences with that. Claimed it was due to hitting a vein, but I believe it was contaminated- found out later. Just saying.
 
Is the pain pretty normal for doing this or is this somewhat unexpected? or maybe the degree of the pain? I'm curious about that.
 
Hey bratha I told you bout after injection pain it will disappear within 2 weeks.
I read you blog and after first set of shots you like"What pain?" lol
 
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Nice mate .


Brad.
 
70 fucking inject's in a week - " and the winner for pin cushion of the year 2010 " goes to...........that trenbloke.:FRlol:

Bodyweight is going up nicely bro - looks like your gonna go a lot further than the 245 you are lookin for outta this run, am surprised your lifts havent suffered that much considering your arms are sore as fawk !
 
So, you're able to get all the shots in as scheduled? (sorry if I missed the answer to this already) I'm running into the same trouble as last time. Did my first 2 ml shot in my tris last night and this night they're hard as a rock- and I know better than to try to force it at this point. I'll have to wait till tomorrow till the swelling goes down and there's somewhere in that head that I can inject into. Someone told me they're like that because they are "full" and that's all they can take at that time. They were fine day in and day out with 1.5 ml ea. but not 2, so we'll see.
 
HOLY FUCK that's ALOT of injects.

Jesus Criminy.

The most injects I could ever see myself doing at MAX is one a day and that would be a heavy ass cycle with multiple compounds.

I'll give ya credit for persistence man.

Fuck, I still can't imagine doing that many shots a week small needle or not.
 
You've got some great size and I agree with Ozzie..still looking pretty lean. Thanks for posting the pics! I hope the pain will start to clear a bit for you.
 
bloke has anyone ever told you that you look like a gorilla? lol. im hoping to get that lean!!! starting my test/beast/epi cycle in a couple weeks.


mad props.
 
1.5 inches / arm gains in 18 days. wow. if only i wasnt so afraid of jabs, i'm sweating with just 3 a week. :(
 
day 18

3ml each head, outer triceps 2ml each head

Notes: hit a vein in ym lower tricep in btoh arms anf FML the pain

also training chest today left tendon was fuking hurting, elbows still feel bruised from the tendon pain

bodyweight: 240

Trained: chest, shoulders, biceps

Workout

Incline press
315X8
335X4
285X8

and this is where my left tendon shit itself :( and my strength plumeted

decline press
285X6
285X5
285X6

machine chest press
240X15
240X14
250X12

Dumbell preacher curl
55X14 (big stretch and slow reps for the pump, fml my arm hurt)
55X14 " " " "

Machine lateral raise
100X14
110X6, dropset 80X6

weighted dips
bodyweight+ 100 added to belt, 8 reps FML tendons and triceps hurt from the sytherol, amazed i could do this

Bro i thought your tri tendons were fucked with tendonitis ? and you are doin 100lb weighted dips !? :evil: Dont fuck yourself up bloke.
 
Dam bloke, gr8 log and dude you pushin some serious poundages. Be safe bro dont get fucked up!:)
 
NOTES: re measured my arms today n they were only 18 inches? WTF????

You lost .7" overnight?? Doesn't sound right. Even if you would drop the inflamation, you don't drop it that quick.

Also, seeing your pics, with that size arms you MUST use 1" pins. Drop the 1/2" asap.
 
i dont know where i can get these man

i get all my needles from the needle exchange centre in my country

if you have any idea where i might be able to buy insulin pins let me know

Look on Promuscle at the top on the left. You'll find the banners for them, located in Melbourne too. But insulin pins only come in 1/2", so no good for you.
 
well i am following your protocol so id be dum not to take ur advice, but glad to see youve taken a interest in my LOG

25g 1inches it is

im sure these will be fine on the tricep heads, its the inner bicep im worried about coz that mother fuker hurts

think i might be purchasing 1-2 more bottles of sytherol in this case if the 25g pins work magicaly and the size piles back on

anyways remeasured my arms today

there back up to 18.9inches :)

from looking at my arms i can see most the size has come from my triceps, my biceps havent put on alot of size, presuming its coz my needle was to short considering my triceps were the major lacking muscle group

anyways jabbing tonight, so shall update yous on how it goes

thank god i have a beautiful girlfriend who will do tese injections for me after sex. although i know shes gonna yell at me wen i say i need to use a bigger needle

shes as sexy as she is insane

It's not often peope make such detailed logs. It's good to see. Most just post before and afters with no info.

You must have measured wrong yesterday, as it was impossible for you to drop that much one night and then gain that much back the night after.
 
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Watching your journal with great interest, ThatBloke. I was a bit skeptical about seo but now I start realising that there is a lot of misinformation around this subject. Keep posting brother!
 
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good shit bloke. Thanks for doing the log here.

What is your plan (or big a's plan) for maintenance?

I know ALR says after the initial growth period to do the SEO for another 6-8 months at 2-3 ml's per muscle, per week for more permanent results. Which makes sense to me, due to the body's desire for homeostasis.
 
by the way bloke, for your tendonitis, I highly recommend getting ntbm's skeletal balm. Apply it and wrap your elbows before you start lifting. Huge difference for me. 99% of my workouts are pain free due to this. I use it on my elbows every time. By far my favorite product.

I know needto will ship it to you in Aus. I think it's like $20 to ship. Predatornutrition.com (in UK) also carries it.

If you want to buy through ntbm.com I can give you a 25% discount code good for a one time use.
 
Fuckin hell Bloke , can your chick do my pinning too ?;)

Theres alot more people following this log now ..ha ha just kiddin bro:biggrin:
 
razor: no worries

zack: yea but the insulin pins are only 1/2 inch in length so there not long enough

ceo: yea i think i will be following big A maintaince phase for synthol for the 6-8 weeks, i think it 3ml per muscle head every week, i dont really understand the science behind the maintaince phase since it seems abit sceptical, but people report success so im going to go with it

as for needto skeletal balm i think i will definetaly be getitng it but at the time i simply cant afford it due to the money ive spent on my cycle and synthol (shit aint cheap), i think illl start using it wen i return to cruising to help it heal up since my training will be relaxed then

DAY 23

okay so i measured my arms this morning and now there 18.3inches, and no i havent measured them wrong, there size is fluctuating and i cant figure out WHY THE FUK?

so today out fo anger i took it up a notch coz im PISSED with my results

needle: 1 inch, 25g

injections, 6ml into each muscle head, split into two seperate 3ml injections, YES THATS 20 FUKIN INJECTIONS TODAY

Notes: now my arms fuking hurt,

apart from the 20 injections, i also happened to hit 7 nerves, 1 in the outer left bicep, 1 on the inner left bicep. 2 in the outer left tricep, 1 in the outer right tricep, 2 in the lower left inner tricep and FML it hurts wen u hit the nerves and ur arm flexes

the biceps was the worst, i hit the inner bicep nerve and my fingers started twitching and i couldnt stop them from flinching around while my girlfriend pushed the syntherol into my arm

to make things worse wen my gf was injecting me with the synthol she DROPPED the fukin needle and it pricked me in the back of the shoulder n got wedged in it

FML it hurt, wanted to knock my girlfriend out but i stayed calm, giggled and told her to pull the needle out of my shoulder n change it over into a new needle

im also starting to develop scar tissue on my bottom inner triceps, which i was expecting coz there such a small fukin muscle with minimal locations to inject,

you can always tell scar tissue when that needle goes in then stops n needs to be pushed in hard, fml it makes a injection painful

will measure arms tomorow, if they havent grown im going to be fukin ANGRY RAAAAAAAAa

GEAR: starting to feel my tren kicking in, listening to disturbed, slipknot, linkin park, metalica, mudvaynne etc at gym has never felt so awesome and RAAAAAAAAAaa

and of course nwo i occasionaly roar in my car or scream out loud in aggression,

SIDES: im coping the tren cough hard this time, also insomnia is starting to become a problem, lukily im on holidays so if i dont sleep it doesnt matter since i can sleep in most days

the onyl issue im having is with the girlfriend, all she seem to wanna do is fight atm, you sees me cough n starts complaining n getting upset etc

i tell ya theres nothing worse then wen you havent slept, your tiered, feeling sick from the injection pain, your arms hurt, your half way through your synthol 20 injectionss, your girlfriend wont even talk to you coz shes moody and is pinning you without much care,

shes currently pinning you injection 12 in your inner biceps and your trying not to cough (tren cough) coz itll make the needle wiggle and cause more pain

and now your both argueing over having sex coz she wants to, and you dont becoz itll ruin ur gym workout, and shes starting to yell and that needle is starting to wiggle and your starting to cough

then you role over for the tricep shot, and wen she tried to pull the cap off the 25g needle it slips out of her hand and the needle goes straight into the back of your shoulder

and you just scream and roar into the bed mattress coz your so angry and i pain from your swollen arms and girlfriend who cant hold a fukin needle

o man, ill be honest, never in my life did i see this happening

i think i might end up purchasing 1-2 more bottles or syntherol at this rate with the way my arms are being

This is a GREAT log Thatbloke. I believe it will go down in EF history as one of the best/most informative. Thanks for adding in all the personal stuff, not just about chemicals, etc... But also about how this is all working out with your girlfriend. That kind of stuff is important for people to consider before getting into this "game".

By the way, I am the opposite when it comes to my girlfriend injecting me. I always inject myself, and am teaching my girlfriend and trying to build up the faith in her so that she can do it for me. You must really trust her...
 
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slow and steady bro. Of course your arm size will fluctuate a bit, you're absorbing and injecting oil into them. Don't push it too much or you will see those lumps/deformities. Just stick to the plan. :) Maybe you shouldn't be measuring so often, and you won't be so frustrated!

Oh, and have sex with your girl, or someone else might!
 
Arms measurements fluctuations I think cause by after injection swelling.If you measure your arms after injections it will be bigger due to swelling its normal.
For precise measurement do it right before your injection protocol.
Anyway your synthol is fucking expensive I remember I got mine about $210 for 3 bottles of syntherol I got buy 2 get 1 free gotta look for abetter deal brah
 
lol, sounds like pitting edema! But it's just caused by your Syntherol, no doubt. Man, all that pain...I hope your arms don't explode bro! :D
 
be patient bro. You're pushing into new territory. Like I said, stick to the plan.

I know i know fuck all and ur log is awesome but like CEO is saying take it slow ur arms grew fast in the first few weeks now they slowing down its like everything, and like ive read a hundred times here "more is not always better" & "Slow and steady wins the race". Im sure at the end of ur entire log/cycle you will be pleased. Good luck very interesting
 
Bro this log is amazing. I fully agree about the personnal aspect too for any of the guyz that are considering getting into the game. That part about your and the gf fighting is a real eye opener. Her shooting you even when she is pissed and then spearing you ala javlin style in the shoulder, and you screaming into the mattress.....Gr8 log bro!:)
 
Bro this log is amazing. I fully agree about the personnal aspect too for any of the guyz that are considering getting into the game. That part about your and the gf fighting is a real eye opener. Her shooting you even when she is pissed and then spearing you ala javlin style in the shoulder, and you screaming into the mattress.....Gr8 log bro!:)

Yup!
Like I said before, that's one of the real gems of this log.
 
Having sex with a girl before a workout isn't gonna hurt the workout ESPECIALLY when you are loaded up on aas. Don't be a fag and lay into her and go to the gym with a smile on your face!:D

IMHO, I think you would be better focusing on yoking up, eating more and building up to like 265-275 solid pounds. I bet you'd have 19" guns at that size. I don't know if you know this, but arm size for a great majority of people is pretty closely related to your overall weight and mass. Keep in mind too that many pro's in the off season are like 300 or more fucking pounds in the off season and they are cutting down.

I feel you would be better served building up to a pretty solid 265-275lbs or going mass heavy as fuck up to like 285+ and then cut it down carefully. Money says you come out of it bigger overall with bigger arms.

Just my opinion man. I couldn't handle all that pinning nor would I want to in the first place. I can understand the reason you want to, but at this point I think you would be better served just getting bigger in general.
 
none man

anyways DAY 30

LAST DAY

3ml each muscle head

so its all over, will have m,easurments and pics within a few days

then taking a few wen im done with this cycle

Congrats on seeing this through :D

I'm curious to know how things will be once the pain subsides and you can return to proper workouts.
 
CONGRATS BRO!!!:)
Now go get that pussy!:evil:
 
thanks guys

okay arms measured today were 18.2inches, but still swollen like hell so im expecting them to go down more

trained legs today

great workout, strength was up across the board,

arms hurt a little but no where near asmuch

and i had sex before my workout :), twice to be exact

Twice....ya greedy bastard .:chomp:
 
It sounds like you reached the max size you can this cycle. Don't be hung up on the 3". Some people get it or even more, usually when they start with large arms. Some though, only get 1/2" but that is extremelly rare. The average if 1.5" to 2" permanent.

Now, remember, you haven't added any muscle, you just stretched the fascia. So make sure you take advantage of that and you do everything by the book as far as muscle growth is concerned. At the 6 week mark (end of your maintanance) you will see how much permanent growth you got.

And like the other guy said, stop measuring daily as it will f#ck with your head.
 
How the maintenace goes bro? I guess the arm is not swallow anymore. Hope you will continue this interesting journal until the end of the cycle and get the final stats and conclusion.
Good luck.
 
UPDATE

been doing my maintaince phase 3ml in each muscle head once a week

ive actually found the mainiance phase the most annoying, mainly becoz ur over the injections, and then once a eek you gotta go do them all again and it just frustrates you, and of course i gotten listen to my gf complain while she injects me and i sit in pain

i also DROPPED my tren dose to 500mg a week, about 3 weeks ago, i was getting really bad and serious insomnia issues at 600mg and the sweats were becoming a little to much, so i decided to lower my dose and the sides have gone away, i still get 1 or 2 occasional nights of insomnia but nothing serious

on 600mg i was getting the worst insomnia, theres nothing worse then lying bed all night roaring with tren rage and watching the sun come up and beggining to scream in frustration and anger and then hearing ur little brothers morning alarm go off in his bedroom RAAAAA

my swelling has all gone down, and my arms feel hard again and not like soft cushions i could leave imprints in like i could before

my arm size has gone down aswell, hoever they are bigger then they use to be

i wont be giving measurments till after this cycle is over sinc i know if i measure its going to fuk with my head

my appetite has returned finally, had a couple of cool days and did a few days of dieting to get my hunger back so everything is going well again

I WILL POST UP PROGRESS PICS SOMETIME THIS WEEK

arm soreness has gone away and they dont feel liek there stretching anymore, the injection pain took about 2-3 days to go away, and the arm soreness from the synhol stretching took about a full week

my past few workouts have been real good, strenth has been solid

todays workout as as follows

Trained: back, triceps,

Workout

weighted chin ups

bodyweight+110 (added to belt)X4
bodyweight+100X5, dropset 50X5
bodyweight+80 7 reps, dropset 6 reps

weighted pull ups

bodyweight+70X6

hammer weighted pull ups
bodyweight+ 80X7

one handed t bar row (loving this exercise atm)
264X9
286X5, dropset 220X6
286X3, dropset 245X6

bent over barbell row
315X6

skull crushers with straight bar, cluster set with 20 seconds rest between each set, have tendonitis in the elbows so have to train light
90X20
110X13
110X12
110X8
90X10
80X12


wide grip cable row
330X9
330X8

Good to hear you are progressing well.

Your weighted pull & chin ups are insane! Very impressive.
 
WELL ITS TIME

first LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT, i dont want 1 DUM comment like: sytherol is dangerous, OR 1 dum comment like syntherol is cheating,


it is clear to me that if you have either of these opinions or others that are negative then you clearly have no idea wtf your talking about, or you have no idea about the substance use in modern bodybuilding

secondly is any dum comment about blasting an cruising being dangerous, i am aware of the risks and have taken that into account, so please lets save those comments for someone who gives a shit

now thats clear, lets begin for those who are interested and are here to learn like me

THIS WILL BE MY FIRST EXPERIENCE with syntherol

for those who have any questions, helpful suggestions or discussion to this topic FEEL FREE TO POST and ill happily discuss and consider what you have to say

im doing this LOG PURELY becoz of the lack of information about syntherol and the lack of any peoples experience in this substance, im here to help educate and give guidance to any person in the future who might consider using this substance

i am not here to encourage syntherol use, nor reccomened it, this is for those who like me have acheieved a physique far beyond wat they couldve achieved naturaly, but thanks to genetics theres certain bodyparts that will never develop for us or allow us to compete in competetive bodybuilding

Okay

so heres a little about me

best shape ive been in 236 pounds, 9-10%bf (end of my last blast)

im currently 5'10, 234 pounds, 10-11%bf (cruising on 300mg test cyp)

i currently am cruising on 300mg testerone cypionate

(i dont do PCT or come off gear)

i follow a blast and cruise protocol

some current lifts
incline bench press 405X1
deadlift 660X1
flat bench press 375X2
dumbell curl 60X9
one legged hamstring curl 140X6
standing calve raise 720X8
45 degree leg press i max out, so 2000 pounds and more
squat machine 600X6 (i use machines due to ligament damage in my knees)
lat pull down 380X6
v bar pull downs 405X5
cable row wide grip 375X8
cable row v bar grip 400X6

so heres the plan

THE SYNTHEROL

using 27g, 1/2inch pins, 3ml syringes

FIRST 10 days
i will be injecting 1ml into both heads of the biceps ED
injecting 1 and 1/2ml into the top tricep head and 1ml into the lower head ED
injecting 1 and 1/2ml into the outer tricep head EOD

NEXT 10 days
injecting 2ml into each head of the bicep ED
injecting 2 and 1/2ml into top inner head of the tricep, 1ml into bottom inner head of tricep ED
injecting 2 and 1/2ml into the outer head of the tricep EOD

following 10 days
3ml into each head of the bicep ED
3ml into top inner tricep head, 3ml into lower inner tricep head ED
3ml into outer tricep head EOD

now ill explain,

biceps are following a protocol given to me from research from another forum by a mod named 'big A'

the tricep protocol is similar to BIG A, however i have adjusted slightly since the outer head of the tricep requires less injectins commanly then the inner heads since it generally does not lack behind like the inner triceps, as in my case

THE CYCLE

testerone cypionate 400mg weekly, weeks 1-10
trenbelone ethanthate 600mg weekly, weeks 1-10
NPP 25mg EOD, weeks 1-10
letrozole .3mg EOD estimated (will be adjusted according to how i bloat)

reasons
NPP dose is purely for joint relief, im not looking for a big muscle building effect from it
testerone cyp 400mg for abit of a boost and i find i dont bloat much from it
treneblone eth, my favourite anabolic and the key to me putting on the size this cycle and looking rock solid and lean :), and the onyl anabolic that makes my arms actually grow

I WILL START MY CYCLE 6 days into my syntherol run

I WILL BE POSTING PICS OF MY ARMS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS,
and then at the end of my sytherol run
and then at the end of my cycle
and then 1-2months into cruising to evaluate keep ability of gains

also measurments ill post tomrow


My Goals

im hoping to reach 245 pounds, and bring my arms up to 19 and half inches

THE DIET

im not going to outline my exact diet,
i will be bascialy eating 8-9 meals a day,
total calories will be close to 5500-6000,
being 350 grams protein, 800 carbs, and the rest fats

The training
3 day split
chest, forearms, abs, triceps, shoulders
back, biceps
rest
legs, calves
rest
REPEAT

my workouts always change, therefore im not setting out a program

HERE WE GO:evil:

I really? You want to say that to my face right now?


Because sytherol is dumb and its retarded. If you want to get a little extra peak on a muscle for something like a comp or anything. then there is much safer methods. only a complete fucking dumb ass would use sytherol. end of discussion. :heart:
 
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